370 replies to this topic

[BeeBs]

How is me voting for EM a suspect? If you go back and look it was me who put the FOS on him before anyone else. If i suspect someone and I do not get any other evidence or arguments which can convince me otherwise, of course I will vote for him be it the half lynch vote, the 1st vote or the last vote. I don't see how a half lynch vote has any bearing anyway as EM was lynched by majority at the end and there was not a tie.

I gave a long explanation of why I found one of the non-voters suspicious in my last post. It is interesting that you chose to ignore addressing that post and instead chose to make a wild claim how I am trying to kill off inactive townies.

It's not a wild claim. It's based on yesterdays voting record which is the most concrete source we have at the moment.

I agree with you that Reign of Terror has been less than helpful. However, I don't think his inactivity is more scummy than activity that leads strait to the death of a townie (i.e. your half majority vote on ElectricMango). It matters it wasn't the first vote because it means that when you voted, if you're townie, you were confident enough in your assertion that he ought to be lynched. Since no one else seemed to be anywhere near the full majority in this case, it means a lot. Therefore, I chose to focus some attention on you, rather than pilling on someone who was relatively inactive. If your intention was to get us to focus on a player who isn't around often to defend himself and get a quick lynch on him that could also be scummy, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.

I agree with the overall sentiment in the last few posts, lets not be too hasty.

I'll be interested to hear from ccabal, as he was the most outspokenly wrong, his new opinions will be interesting.

[Kaziocore]

VOTE COUNT
Not Voting (9): ABigDeer, BeeBs, ccabal86, Emmanuel, Eva999, Imran Ehsan, KevinH, Rafay, reign of terror

With 9 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

Edited by Kaziocore, 23 April 2012 - 04:04 PM.

[Rafay]

Whats "prodding" Kaz.

[Kaziocore]

Prod

A prod is a Private Message sent from the moderator to a player who has fallen afoul of the moderator's set activity rules. The message is intended to remind the player that they are playing the game and have not posted in a while.

If players do not respond to prods in a timely manner, they are summarily replaced.

[reign of terror]

Wall of accusations

I'll reply to this a bit later today once I get some time.

[Eva999]

Sorry I've been a bit inactive, mixture of being busy, a bit sick, and playing Tribes: Ascend with all my spare time >_>

Anyways, RoT does seem to be lying low, though he may have just thought that neither EM nor Rafay were scum. Abigdeer didn't vote either, but his posts have a bit more substance to them.

I have to run for a bit because I need to go to a class, but I'll post again a bit later when I get the chance.

[Eva999]

Anyways, to continue my thoughts. If EM had been a scum, I would've been gunning for Emmanuel for agreeing so hard with EM about a werewolf theory and throwing a last minute vote against Rafay, but if he were scum I don't see why he would vote for Rafay over just not voting or jumping on with EM.

[Rafay]

I dunno 4 sure but to me it seems more like Imran is the scum I dont know but like I said he comes outta nowhere and accuses people of being something. 1st it was me now rot.

[reign of terror]

Yes, I have been lying low for most if not all of this game because this tactic worked to perfection last round and the town ended up winning because of it. The reason I didn't vote for anyone this last day was because as Eva said neither EM nor Rafay seemed scummy to me. I think that attacking me soon after the start of the day seems awfully scummy. I urge all townies not to vote until they are pretty sure that their target is scum. Now is the time that the scum will try to bandwagon and rush a vote.

[Emmanuel]

All we really have is two people who think the other is suspicious, my eyes look more towards those who were quiet in the last round, ABigDeer and reign of terror didn't vote at all and not putting your opinions out there and "laying low" are some pretty basic scum tactics.

Also waiting on ccabal's thoughts after he led the party that lynched EM

[KevinH]

Gone: three plain townies
Plus one-shot vigilante
A power still lives?

[Imran Ehsan]

I think that attacking me soon after the start of the day seems awfully scummy.

So you would prefer we spend the first 3-4 days saying.."I am unsure what to do".."whats going on?" and stuff like that. I lay out my theory (if I have one) early on so that we have enough time to discuss it. Note that I did not vote for you yet..i found your actions suspicious and explained why. I am willing to hear your explanation..as well as other theories put forward by other players before deciding on who to vote for. I am not pushing anyone to agree with me....or trying to get anyone rush voted. If you have a theory against me or anyone else..feel free to lay it out and we can discuss it. But it seems like so far you have not taken a stand on anything. I would like to hear who are on your list of suspects (and why) at this time.

[BeeBs]

I think the problem is not laying out a strategy, but the townies that follow the first good sounding theory that comes up. That is why ElectricMango died, the speech seemed convincing so it was followed and we made a mistake.

At this time, we have lots of varying degrees of inactivity, so I'd rather not base my vote on that because I think it would be extremely arbitrary.

Right now my scum list is(in no particular order):
ccabal for leading the town to lynch EM yesterday
Imran Eshan for making a half lynch vote yesterday
.....(at this point I had a I've made a terrible mistake moment)

Rafay, I apologize, I've made a terrible mistake. You did not place the half vote lynch yesterday, ABIgDeer did. For some reason I had been working off that assumption these last couple days it must have gotten into my head at some point, but it was wrong. I'm sorry I alleged that.

Therefore my third candidate is ABigDeer for putting down the half majority on Nerau.

However, realizing this I need to reorient a little bit. I want to go back and look more at Imran Eshan and see what comes up.

[KevinH]

All townies vote with a good intention
Sometimes following a bad invention

Some times scum only sit back and watch
The good guys lynch, but really botch

Other times scum create a ploy
Manipulate votes just like a toy

I always hope for extra info to be had
Random guessing to lynch makes me sad

[Kaziocore]

3 DAYS BEFORE DEADLINE

[Eva999]

All townies vote with a good intention
Sometimes following a bad invention

Some times scum only sit back and watch
The good guys lynch, but really botch

Other times scum create a ploy
Manipulate votes just like a toy

I always hope for extra info to be had
Random guessing to lynch makes me sad

So what are your thoughts on whos scum and whos townie Kevin? You've posted quite a bit but I don't feel like you've really actually said much. Probably a side effect of trying to post in poem, but it would be nice to hear your thoughts

[KevinH]

It's not so hard to write in poem
It take a bit of thought while at home

Decide what to say, then make it rhyme
Or haiku 5-7-5 for an easier time

As to the issue of scum, I really don't know
I'm trying to decide whom to fol-low

[Rafay]

I think I've given it a good thought and have come to the conclusion that I believe that either Imran Ehsan(with his sudden accusations) or KevinH(with his poetry trying to look innocent) is one of the scum but I'm leaning more towards Imran cuz of his quickness in assuming that rot was scum just cuz he didn't vote although I too was caught by surprise when 2 ppl didn't vote but its not a strong point to raise allegations.With that being said,



Vote: Imran Ehsan

[ccabal86]

Well, we are in quite a bit of trouble here. If we are playing with 3 scum, and kill a townie tonight as well, then it's going to be 4vs3 tomorrow, and if one townie misvotes, scum can bandwagon for a quick win. My accusations on EM were wrong, but were based on information we had, which was not much. Had I been right, I would definitely say we lynch BeeBs and Emmanuel next, but now I'm not so sure. Wanted to avoid this for as long as possible, but with deadline fast approaching, I have no choice:

Imran is a bad candidate for the lynch, he is my partner with whom I can converse with during the day. We always did our best to figure out who was suspicious, and we both found EM to be that. We picked me to be the spokesperson, and Imran to take a less active approach.

[BeeBs]

I'm tempted to believe this role claim. Neither of them voted for the lynch that killed Nerau and EM was a pretty big mistake on the part of all of us townies. With only three needed for a half majority scum probably haven't have to vote much to get us to lynch.

Considering the circumstances, is it time to evaluate more role claims? It might be too late to do so on the last day, at least it would be much easier for scum to push for a false cop or something. Is it time to lay out what we got? So far we have lost one one shot vigilante role, we must be packing some more support out there.

I could have seen Imran Eshan turning out to be the cop since he had a quick post about suspicion after night actions, but if ccabal is right, that is unlikely.

What do people think is it time to call in the power roles and see what else we got?