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[Rafay]

OK OK ccbal I get it but now you guys are ganging up on rot, I know he's not much active but that doesn't necessarily mean he's scum, however the fact that 2 ppl can talk in private via PM during Day is suspicious. Ya feel me Playa.

[ccabal86]

OK OK ccbal I get it but now you guys are ganging up on rot, I know he's not much active but that doesn't necessarily mean he's scum, however the fact that 2 ppl can talk in private via PM during Day is suspicious. Ya feel me Playa.

Of course we're ganging up on RoT, we're a pair, and the alternative is lynching someone who I know to be townie. If Imran dies, it will prove me to be town, but it will be all for moot cause mafia will night kill me as the only 100% proven townie. And then you guys will be in the dark again.

[Eva999]

I'm really not sure how to vote here. RoT has been suspiciously quiet, but I'm hesitant to follow ccabal and Imran into another lynch after being wrong about EM. Kevin's quick vote on Imran without much explanation is a bit suspicious. I still kinda feel like Kevin's using the posting in poems to hide really having to say anything . Emmanuel hasn't posted in a while which is kinda odd given how important today is, but as I've already said, I don't think he's scum. ABigDeer has been staying a bit quiet as well, but when he does post he at least says something unlike RoT. I don't really find him and RoT suspicious for not voting for the lynch. By that logic Imran should find himself suspicious for voting No lynch when Nerau got lynched as I don't see much of a difference in voting No Lynch against someone who was nearly for sure going to be lynched and not voting at all, the outcome was effectively the same, but I suppose that's just me Beebs I'm not sure about, but my gut says townie. Rafay has calmed down a bit it seems, but he's still being a bit defensive whenever anyone says anything to him.

[Kaziocore]

The 10 Hours Before Deadline VOTE COUNT
Imhran Ehsan (2): Rafay, KevinH
reign of terror (2): Imran Ehsan, ccabal86

Not Voting (5): ABigDeer, BeeBs, Emmanuel, Eva999, reign of terror

With 9 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

lol sorry about that

Edited by Kaziocore, 24 April 2012 - 10:10 PM.

[Eva999]

The 10 Hours Before Deadline VOTE COUNT
Imhran Ehsan (3): Rafay, KevinH, ccabal86
reign of terror (1): Imran Ehsan

Not Voting (5): ABigDeer, BeeBs, Emmanuel, Eva999, reign of terror

With 9 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

Ccabal is voting for Reign of Terror currently, not Imran Ehsan

[KevinH]

If I had something to say, I'd say it
If I knew who was scum, I'd sway it

If Imran is shown town,
then we can mark ccabal86 down

But if Imran is scum
The next vote will come

Any other vote will see
just what one player be

[BeeBs]

If I had something to say, I'd say it
If I knew who was scum, I'd sway it

If Imran is shown town,
then we can mark ccabal86 down

But if Imran is scum
The next vote will come

Any other vote will see
just what one player be

But they're right. If we lynch one of them the other will just get NKd assuming they are townie. On the other hand, that is a pretty convient story. The way they've argued it we'll be a fool either way.

It looks like I may be the deciding vote with two potential half lynch candidates. The rest have been less active than me and may not get on again to vote. So I suppose something needs to be done.

I have reservations about both sides, but I'll plot out my case.

I believe KevinH to be townie. His poems started as a running joke from last game and from my own experience with roles Kaziocore made some pretty interesting restrictions. I am inclined to believe that his flavor is legit. Plus, although he hasn't posted too many suspicions he hasn't done anything to overtly damage the town.

I agree that Rafay is probably townie. He is playing way to obviously to be scum. I recanted my previous suspicions of him after realizing my own mistake. It could be a facade so obvious it's not, but I doubt it. It would be too bold I think.

Imran Ehsan voted the half lynch on ElectricMango. Although I have liked his posts, he (effectively) killed a townie.

ccabal86 stubbornly lead the townies to lynch ElectricMango. It was unrelenting and unapologetic during that day, and that rubs me the wrong way. After making that mistake he started this day going right after Reign of Terror in the same style he went after ElectricMango. That is a path I don't want to start repeating.

As to the candidates, I already spoke about Imran Eshan who I consider a good candidate because he half lynched a townie and is "linked" to the mob leader. ReignOfTerror might be playing under the radar, but that doesn't make him scum. I generally don't find that to be a particularly good reason and I think he may go down the same way that ElectricMango did, with ccabals early accusation and Imran Ehsan's follow through. Even if they're townies they have no reason to be more confident about their combined finger pointed today, and I don't want them running the show if their one-two punches will be knocking out townies.

Therefore, I'll follow who I believe to be more likely townies, if only to be on the right side of history. ccabal and Imran Ehsan set us up to lynch ElectricMango yesterday and that was a disaster. They certainly seemed to be linked, but I'm not convinced its by townie blood rather than scum slime. If they do both turn out to be dead townies after this evening I'll set my sights on ABigDeer and ZincoX.

Vote: Imran Ehsan

[Eva999]

ABigDeer and ZincoX.

ABigDeer and who?

[BeeBs]

ABigDeer and who?

Oh...just a guy that died yesterday. My bad. Was wondering why he hadn't said much lately...

[BeeBs]

For the record was thinking he might be scum cause if I'm not mistaken (again) he had voted for all the dead townies.

[ABigDeer]

Of course we're ganging up on RoT, we're a pair, and the alternative is lynching someone who I know to be townie. If Imran dies, it will prove me to be town, but it will be all for moot cause mafia will night kill me as the only 100% proven townie. And then you guys will be in the dark again.

Well, wouldn't you think that the scum can almost prove that everyone apart from them is a townie? Unless there is a second faction involved.

[ccabal86]

All right, one last ditch attempt to do something about it before we lose for good. We will now likely lose anyway, but if I don't try to persuade someone to switch votes it's a done deal.

Imran is actually my bodyguard. I took such an active and aggressive role to lure a scum to NK me. The reason why I came out so early form the closet is because after no NK happened on Night 1, we found it possible that the vampire scenario may actually be true, and if I lured an attack on myself early, it may contain the spread (if there is such a thing).

This strategy failed 2 times: once when I was not nightkilled after day 1, and twice when EM turned out to be scum after all. Water under the bridge now.

Why I need a bodyguard though? If I get killed, town will mourn my death for a day (being princess) and can not lynch. If this happened earlier in the game: no problem, we got one scum and could have easily wrapped up the rest. If it happens now: Imran dies now, and I'm NKd. Scum get an extra NK and it's game over.

If you guys don't change your vote now, town loses, plain and simple.

[Eva999]

So, he's a doc, but can only protect you?

[Eva999]

Personally, I feel lynching Imran is the wrong choice, but my vote cant stop it now unless someone jumps in on RoT.

Vote: Reign of Terror

With no one else stepping up, I feel we have to trust ccabal and Imran right now. I don't really think RoT is scum, but going into tomorrow losing Imran and likely ccabal, both townies imo, leaves us incredibly helpless and game ending if ccabal speaks truely

[BeeBs]

All right, one last ditch attempt to do something about it before we lose for good. We will now likely lose anyway, but if I don't try to persuade someone to switch votes it's a done deal.

Imran is actually my bodyguard. I took such an active and aggressive role to lure a scum to NK me. The reason why I came out so early form the closet is because after no NK happened on Night 1, we found it possible that the vampire scenario may actually be true, and if I lured an attack on myself early, it may contain the spread (if there is such a thing).

This strategy failed 2 times: once when I was not nightkilled after day 1, and twice when EM turned out to be scum after all. Water under the bridge now.

Why I need a bodyguard though? If I get killed, town will mourn my death for a day (being princess) and can not lynch. If this happened earlier in the game: no problem, we got one scum and could have easily wrapped up the rest. If it happens now: Imran dies now, and I'm NKd. Scum get an extra NK and it's game over.

If you guys don't change your vote now, town loses, plain and simple.

This seems more legit. There had to be a further power role somewhere. Seeing as no one else has come forward with anything, I'm persuaded this is all we got.

UNVOTE

Personally, I feel lynching Imran is the wrong choice, but my vote cant stop it now unless someone jumps in on RoT.

Vote: Reign of Terror

With no one else stepping up, I feel we have to trust ccabal and Imran right now. I don't really think RoT is scum, but going into tomorrow losing Imran and likely ccabal, both townies imo, leaves us incredibly helpless and game ending if ccabal speaks truely

I'm not convinced, so I'm not voting this way. However, we'll see where the dust settles tomorrow. You're on my townie list for now, so I'll let you make that call.

[BeeBs]

I unvoted because I am under the impression tie would have gone to Imran Ehsan since he reached the half first.

[Eva999]

I'm not convinced, so I'm not voting this way. However, we'll see where the dust settles tomorrow. You're on my townie list for now, so I'll let you make that call.

Making me look like scum with the lynch vote are ya? I'm not totally convinced either, but if I unvote, no one dies tonight which really just leaves us tomorrow with another townie dead and no new info for voting tomorrow.

[Imran Ehsan]

We did ask for an extension and for the Cop / other townie roles to come forward. I even posted earlier that l would entertain other options apart from RoT if theories are brought forward. But no one came forward and no theories were posted. In that scenario RoT was the only option left.

[Kaziocore]

1 Hour Before Deadline VOTE COUNT
reign of terror (3): Imran Ehsan, ccabal86, Eva999
Imhran Ehsan (2): Rafay, KevinH

Not Voting (4): ABigDeer, BeeBs, Emmanuel, reign of terror

With 9 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

[ccabal86]

Indeeed, we're out of time, plain and simple.

Big townie points for BeebS for unvoting, and Eva999 for not putting down the hammer on Imran. If we get through the night in one piece, that's something we can work with.