Just a reminder that if you are in the United States, it is election day.  Lots of competitive races at all levels of governance as well as many important propositions/referendums to weigh in on.

If not sure where to vote, find out: https://2014.votinginfoproject.org/

I think Jeb will run, and if Jeb runs I don't think Mitt will.

Paul Ryan is a legislator and an animal of the House... if Scott Walker runs, which I think he will... Ryan will not run.

I like Rand Paul alot. He has a problem... if he runs he has to give up his Senate seat. I think he will run, but he'll have trouble.

He has a strong Libertarian streak and many of the base are afraid of pulling the plug on influence of the world stage.

Chris Cristie should have run in 2012 when we needed him. I think his time has passed and he'll be easily painted as a bully.

Ted Cruz is too Tea Party for the general... he's a lawyer and can't shake that "win at all cost" attitude, but I love his conviction.

Rick Perry will run again but will have trouble shaking off his horrible performance in 2012 debates. Governors make the best Presidents, so they always have an advantage with Republicans. Perry should not have run in 2012.

Rick Santorum will run again but that's a loser from the gun... his entire platform is social conservative and that can't win anymore.

Ben Carson will test the water, but he has no political or governing experience and the guys above, will kill him with it.

Watch out for my Governor here in Nevada... Brian Sandoval won re-election last night with 71% of the vote. A former Federal Judge, he is hispanic, very likeable, brilliant, and a great Republican. He would be a good President... but unknown so far.

If Jeb doesn't run, I hope Mitt will. 

I just hope that Jeb Bush won't repeat the mistakes that his brother did especially foreign policy. 

I would like to see him but I doubt that he will be back. 

Also Chris Christie for that bridge closure hurts him publicly. 

Most of these candidates seem to be inexperienced or have had a bad reputation in previous years in a political office. 

 

As long it is not Hilary Clinton running for president, then I would be satisfied. 

TW brought up Mike Huckabee, one that I had not thought would seriously consider another run.

He passed on 2012, and it really upset alot of people. I saw him tonight on O'Reilly, and it looks like he may very well run.

If he does... it's a game changer. He is well liked in Republican circles, far and wide.

He has cross-over appeal, he's good with the bible thumpers, and he kicks Hillary all over the map on personality.

I can get solidly behind his campaign.

 

Yet another political occasion where nothing actually changes. Lube it up, and hide your wallets. Business as usual.

TW brought up Mike Huckabee, one that I had not thought would seriously consider another run.

He passed on 2012, and it really upset alot of people. I saw him tonight on O'Reilly, and it looks like he may very well run.

If he does... it's a game changer. He is well liked in Republican circles, far and wide.

He has cross-over appeal, he's good with the bible thumpers, and he kicks Hillary all over the map on personality.

I can get solidly behind his campaign.

Hmmm interesting

 

Sounds like he is a very strong leader, I think he has a potential candidate to run for president. 

With a Republican Congress in hand, he may be able to get some bills and legislation done.

Like you said, at least he can be a critic for Hillary somebody who we don't want to have as president.  

Does anyone know what the turnout was??

 

Thank you.

 

This article tracks turnout in midterm elections back to 1982:

http://america.aljazeera.com/blogs/scrutineer/2014/11/5/why-the-real-electionturnoutwasfarlowerthanreported.html

As you can see, turnout was quite low, even by midterm standards.

 

Here, we have a breakdown by state, indicating the high variability (28% in TX to 59% in ME):

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/preliminary-turnout-numbers-are-way-down-from-2010-and-2012/

 

Obviously part of the geographic differences is due to competitive races or not, but everyone does get to vote for at least the House of Representatives (though most of those races were also preordained).

 

Our priorities in the 114th Congress will be your priorities. That means addressing head-on many of the most pressing challenges facing the country, including:

 

The insanely complex tax code that is driving American jobs overseas;

 

Health costs that continue to rise under a hopelessly flawed law that Americans have never supported;

 

A savage global terrorist threat that seeks to wage war on every American;

 

An education system that denies choice to parents and denies a good education to too many children;

 

Excessive regulations and frivolous lawsuits that are driving up costs for families and preventing the economy from growing;

 

An antiquated government bureaucracy ill-equipped to serve a citizenry facing 21st-century challenges, from disease control to caring for veterans;

 

A national debt that has Americans stealing from their children and grandchildren, robbing them of benefits that they will never see and leaving them with burdens that will be nearly impossible to repay.

 

 

tl;dr We're cutting taxes on the super rich, we're going to war, your health coverage is over, good look in school if you're poor.

Edited November 6, 201411 yr by Shahenshah

Thanks Niels.

 

33.3% is a miserable turnout especially for a country tat has been a democracy since its inception. I can imagine the founding fathers rolling in their graves!!!

 

I think Dems relied too much on youngsters to vote If you look at the demographics the republicans have favourable reviews in the 44+ yr age group, below that is blue but that part is lazy and not much into politics except ramblings on twitter and FB.

 

I hope Obama doesn't become a lame duck cuz that'd be bad for democrats in '16. However it seemed more like an anti-Obama vote than a pro-Republican vote.

Edited November 6, 201411 yr by Rafay

Thanks Niels.

 

33.3% is a miserable turnout especially for a country tat has been a democracy since its inception. I can imagine the founding fathers rolling in their graves!!!

 

I think Dems relied too much on youngsters to vote If you look at the demographics the republicans have favourable reviews in the 44+ yr age group, below that is blue but that part is lazy and not much into politics except ramblings on twitter and FB.

 

I hope Obama doesn't become a lame duck cuz that'd be bad for democrats in '16. However it seemed more like an anti-Obama vote than a pro-Republican vote.

 

Rafay,

I found a dataset going back earlier than 1982, which may be of interest to you:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/24/voter-turnout-always-drops-off-for-midterm-elections-but-why/

As you can see from the 2nd chart there, a 33% midterm turnout last occurred in 1926, and before that, back in the 1790s.  There was also a time, and this was news to me, when midterm elections drew a greater share of the electorate than the presidential ones, though that ended in the 1830s.  It seems like Jacksonian democracy with its emphasis on expanding voting rights to at least all adult white men regardless of value of property, coupled with the relatively stronger presidency compared to Congress, got people interested in politics to a much greater extent than before (turnout for both presidential and midterm elections increasing), but more so for the president, and that presidential emphasis has continued to today.

Republicans did well,

As a registered democrat I'm beyond annoyed about the election.

 

But, going out on a limb here, all of the choices sucked, and have sucked for years.

 

Until career politicians are tossed out on their asses and people turn to public service, this will be the result.

 

Obama will, rightfully, veto any bill that has either no democratic support or attempt to completely repeal the ACA. I hope he's bought veto pens by the gross.

 

I'm so ashamed to be American right now - we must look like bloody fools to the rest of the world, and that's not just because of this election.

 

Looking at 2016...

 

I DO NOT WANT HILLARY! She cannot win the nomination. Period. So, who?

1. Elizabeth Warren

2. Martin O'Malley (former MD Gov)

3. Bernie Sanders

 

GOP...well, it just can't be Jeb Bush. It can't. We can't have yet another Bush in the white house. Chris Christie won't win. His bully pulpit style won't play well in the midwest and south. Mike Huckabee won't win in the West and Northeast.

 

There's no good choices for either party.

Good morning gang

 

Rafay: The United States is a Constitutional Republic, and it has been since it's inception. A Democracy is "majority rules", and the founding fathers in their grand wisdom, knew very well that a Democracy was 51% of the people stomping on the rights of the other 49%. It's our Constitution that sets us apart, and makes the U.S. the greatest country ever. Our Constitution is unique because it is not a set of articles that grant power to the government... it's a set of articles that limit the power of government. "Congress shall pass no law..." are the primary words throughout. Progressives for over 100 years have been attempting to break that document, and that is what makes the founding fathers roll.

 

It amazes me that so many want to say that an election where Democrats got absolutely routed just doesn't count because more people voted for Republicans. Turnout is always a factor in every election and Democrats have been bragging about their "ground game" since they elevated Obama to god statis. Now that everyone knows he can't walk on water, it's back to "we don't give a shit".

 

Fin Baby: Hillary is a Progressive... which means she's a closet Socialist. So is Warren and O'Malley. Bernie Sanders is the only one on your list that is openly, and quite proudly, a Socialist. Anytime you steal money from someone that earns it and give it to someone that doesn't... it's wrong and it's just theft. Doesn't matter how you disguise it.

My wife just sent me this joke... hysterical

 

An Italian doctor says:

"In Italy, medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man's testicles, put them on another man, and in 6 weeks, he is looking for work".

"The Dutch doctor says:

"That's nothing, in Holland we take part of a brain, put it in another man, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work".

"The Canadian doctor says:

"Gentlemen, we take half a heart from a man, put it in another mans chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for work".

"The American doctor laughs:

"You all are behind us. Six years ago, we took a man with no brains, no heart, and no balls and made him President.

Now, the whole country is looking for work!"

TW brought up Mike Huckabee, one that I had not thought would seriously consider another run.

He passed on 2012, and it really upset alot of people. I saw him tonight on O'Reilly, and it looks like he may very well run.

If he does... it's a game changer. He is well liked in Republican circles, far and wide.

He has cross-over appeal, he's good with the bible thumpers, and he kicks Hillary all over the map on personality.

I can get solidly behind his campaign.

I'm not sure if Mike will be running or not, but I read a few articles that indicated that he might. I believe that he would be a strong leader and one that I would gladly support.

Good morning gang

 

Rafay: The United States is a Constitutional Republic, and it has been since it's inception. A Democracy is "majority rules", and the founding fathers in their grand wisdom, knew very well that a Democracy was 51% of the people stomping on the rights of the other 49%. It's our Constitution that sets us apart, and makes the U.S. the greatest country ever. Our Constitution is unique because it is not a set of articles that grant power to the government... it's a set of articles that limit the power of government. "Congress shall pass no law..." are the primary words throughout. Progressives for over 100 years have been attempting to break that document, and that is what makes the founding fathers roll.

 

It amazes me that so many want to say that an election where Democrats got absolutely routed just doesn't count because more people voted for Republicans. Turnout is always a factor in every election and Democrats have been bragging about their "ground game" since they elevated Obama to god statis. Now that everyone knows he can't walk on water, it's back to "we don't give a shit".

 

Fin Baby: Hillary is a Progressive... which means she's a closet Socialist. So is Warren and O'Malley. Bernie Sanders is the only one on your list that is openly, and quite proudly, a Socialist. Anytime you steal money from someone that earns it and give it to someone that doesn't... it's wrong and it's just theft. Doesn't matter how you disguise it.

 

Thank you for that Lysistrata. But I meant democracy as in  everyone gets to vote for govt. kind of thing. USA has always striven to strengthen democracy at home and other countries and that's what sets it apart from other countries in the world although supporting Gulf monarchies and delay in providing universal suffrage will always be a big ? on their principle of liberty and justice for all.

 

I don't get the idea of progressives/democrats. I mean USA is anti-communism so why do ppl want healthcare and free education? Doesn't that make the whole 'Cold War' useless..... 

 

It is easily foreseeable that the U.S. is not going to be able to get anything constructive done until the next election... It seems like Republicans are going to control the Congress and Obama will be left to fight uphill battles against them. Not good at all for the people.

omg... Do you really wish to go there LE?

 

So to get anything "constructive" done, it has to be Democrats that do it?

Republicans are not people?

Who has been fighting uphill battles?

 

There are over 360 bills from the House of Representatives sitting on Hary Reid's desk that he refuses to bring to the floor.

This will change in January... and the true obstructionist will be exposed.

 

I think you are an amazing leader, but this post really offended me Sir.

I have spent the last 8 years of my life to bring down the most corrupt politician in DC... Harry Reid. Tonight I drink champaign.

 

 

Lysistrata, I agree with your opinion on Democrats.  Harry Reid is somewhat of a hypocrite.  He should let one of those bills with ACA repealed come to the floor.  If the Senators like they will vote for it and it will pass, if not then it will not pass.  The constitutional exercise of rejecting/passing laws will be carried to its logical conclusion. However, I am disappinted in John Boehner.  The same thing should happen in the House of Representatives, the immigration bill should be bought to a vote.  If the bill passes or gets rejected, it will be because the constitutional exercise will be carried out.  The founding fathers did not imagine a bill not being put up to vote.  By sitting on the immigration bill, the current GOP is being foolish.  A rejection vote would send a clear signal to the Democrats and the general public that this immigration bill is not proper.  By sitting on the bill, they are giving a chance for the Democrats to unfairly attack them as obstructionists.  If the GOP holds a vote, and it gets rejected, then there is no basis for the argument that the Republicans are "obstructionists".  The immigration bill was rejected by a House of Congress, and it must be debated on further.  There would be no reason to label the Republicans as "obstructionists"

I'm just happy my state went red, for once Marylanders got a clue after O'malley taxed everything under the sun...including rain.

 

And Dr. Ben Carson is the first out the gate it seems saying that he'll be running.

 

I use to be diehard Republican...now, I still side more Republican but I'm disgusted by both parties.  Tired of zero effort to work together between parties, and political leaders on both sides only going with what "they're suppose to do," and who gave them the most money.  Both sides are just a bunch of slimeballs...but my views are more Republican then Democrat.  

 

It is easily foreseeable that the U.S. is not going to be able to get anything constructive done until the next election... It seems like Republicans are going to control the Congress and Obama will be left to fight uphill battles against them. Not good at all for the people.

omg... Do you really wish to go there LE?

 

So to get anything "constructive" done, it has to be Democrats that do it?

Republicans are not people?

Who has been fighting uphill battles?

 

There are over 360 bills from the House of Representatives sitting on Hary Reid's desk that he refuses to bring to the floor.

This will change in January... and the true obstructionist will be exposed.

 

I think you are an amazing leader, but this post really offended me Sir.

I have spent the last 8 years of my life to bring down the most corrupt politician in DC... Harry Reid. Tonight I drink champaign.

 

 

 

Lysistrata...I agree to a lot of your views, but you really should tone it back some.  You come off quite aggressive, and your views are not the only ones that are allowed to be said.  You can debate/discuss a point without being so in your face because an individual has a different opinion then you.  I enjoy a good discussion from different views, but I can't stand when someone makes someone feel like their thoughts/opinion/views mean nothing because they're different then theirs.  These are why I hate to see topics like these even started, because it always becomes hostile instead of debating, instead of at the end of the day, we're all entitled to our own views and beliefs so leave it at that.  The mere fact you got "offended" over a post that you took different from your views and instantly went on the attack is why I dread seeing such topics, as it just ends up bad and people pissed off.

 

And tbh...I don't get why you got so offended.  LE's post is making a very realistic point.  You're making assumptions to what LE meant by his post, and no where did I read LE say that Republicans are not people, nor that Democrats can only do things "constructive."  The point made is probably a likely scenario.  You have Republicans going to push bills that favor Republican views/ideals and likely not look to work with Democrats because they have majority in both House and Senate, and you have a Democratic President who will likely not like the bills, and thus fight for his parties view.  You come off as if roles were reversed, a Republican President would not do the same, and the truth is, they would.  It's going to be a big tug of war match which will likely end up stalling most of everything, and it's not one side's fault or the other, it's both of their faults because neither want to actually work together to come up with a decent proposal that both sides can support, and that actually would help America.  The Republicans wont care about Democrats thoughts or views because they have majority in congress so they don't need to, and you got a President who is the last line of Defense for Democrats to not just let Republicans pass what they want.  So LE's point is likely spot on, nothing constructive is going to happen because both sides are going to have zero interest in the other's opinions, Republicans in Congress because they can now get what they want passed without Democrats, and a Democratic President who doesn't care what Republicans think, because he's the President and he has power that Republicans don't have in the oval office.  To go along at what you wanted to point out at LE, where you took his response that you think he meant only Democrats can be constructive...not only Republicans can be constructive to.

 

At the end of the day, I really think you took that post way to personal and I believe you took it in a lot different way then it was meant.  Though I can't speak for LE, I see nothing in that response that hinted at what you assumed LE meant, and a diss only to Republicans.  I think that comment was directed at both parties, that are not going to work with each other, and thus nothing constructive will get done because neither side is going to budge.  And even if it was, LE stated his opinion, just as you have, you should respect someone's right to their opinion, even if yours might be different

 

 

And finally....

 

I ask everyone to be respectful to everyone here.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you do not like it, and want to debate it, then do it in a respectful manner.  Present facts, present your thoughts on why you think differently if you do, but do not attack someone.  I like these topics because I think they're nice to see people's different views even if they differ from mine...but I will not let people get belittled or bullied, or this topic will be closed.  Topics on politics, religion, etc on forums like these turn usually turn out bad...so I hope it doesn't become that way.

 

 

 

 

It is easily foreseeable that the U.S. is not going to be able to get anything constructive done until the next election... It seems like Republicans are going to control the Congress and Obama will be left to fight uphill battles against them. Not good at all for the people.

omg... Do you really wish to go there LE?

 

So to get anything "constructive" done, it has to be Democrats that do it?

Republicans are not people?

Who has been fighting uphill battles?

 

There are over 360 bills from the House of Representatives sitting on Hary Reid's desk that he refuses to bring to the floor.

This will change in January... and the true obstructionist will be exposed.

 

I think you are an amazing leader, but this post really offended me Sir.

I have spent the last 8 years of my life to bring down the most corrupt politician in DC... Harry Reid. Tonight I drink champaign.

 

Lysistrata...I agree to a lot of your views, but you really should tone it back some. You come off quite aggressive, and your views are not the only ones that are allowed to be said. You can debate/discuss a point without being so in your face because an individual has a different opinion then you. I enjoy a good discussion from different views, but I can't stand when someone makes someone feel like their thoughts/opinion/views mean nothing because they're different then theirs. These are why I hate to see topics like these even started, because it always becomes hostile instead of debating, instead of at the end of the day, we're all entitled to our own views and beliefs so leave it at that. The mere fact you got "offended" over a post that you took different from your views and instantly went on the attack is why I dread seeing such topics, as it just ends up bad and people pissed off.

 

And tbh...I don't get why you got so offended. LE's post is making a very realistic point. You're making assumptions to what LE meant by his post, and no where did I read LE say that Republicans are not people, nor that Democrats can only do things "constructive." The point made is probably a likely scenario. You have Republicans going to push bills that favor Republican views/ideals and likely not look to work with Democrats because they have majority in both House and Senate, and you have a Democratic President who will likely not like the bills, and thus fight for his parties view. You come off as if roles were reversed, a Republican President would not do the same, and the truth is, they would. It's going to be a big tug of war match which will likely end up stalling most of everything, and it's not one side's fault or the other, it's both of their faults because neither want to actually work together to come up with a decent proposal that both sides can support, and that actually would help America. The Republicans wont care about Democrats thoughts or views because they have majority in congress so they don't need to, and you got a President who is the last line of Defense for Democrats to not just let Republicans pass what they want. So LE's point is likely spot on, nothing constructive is going to happen because both sides are going to have zero interest in the other's opinions, Republicans in Congress because they can now get what they want passed without Democrats, and a Democratic President who doesn't care what Republicans think, because he's the President and he has power that Republicans don't have in the oval office. To go along at what you wanted to point out at LE, where you took his response that you think he meant only Democrats can be constructive...not only Republicans can be constructive to.

 

At the end of the day, I really think you took that post way to personal and I believe you took it in a lot different way then it was meant. Though I can't speak for LE, I see nothing in that response that hinted at what you assumed LE meant, and a diss only to Republicans. I think that comment was directed at both parties, that are not going to work with each other, and thus nothing constructive will get done because neither side is going to budge. And even if it was, LE stated his opinion, just as you have, you should respect someone's right to their opinion, even if yours might be different

 

 

And finally....

 

I ask everyone to be respectful to everyone here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you do not like it, and want to debate it, then do it in a respectful manner. Present facts, present your thoughts on why you think differently if you do, but do not attack someone. I like these topics because I think they're nice to see people's different views even if they differ from mine...but I will not let people get belittled or bullied, or this topic will be closed. Topics on politics, religion, etc on forums like these turn usually turn out bad...so I hope it doesn't become that way.

This x2.

 

Lysistrata,while I am generally right leaning, and agree with your assertion that Democrats can be obtuse. I feel that there just be open debate. Hence, my feelings bills need to come up to vote so tha there can be debate. Not all Republicans are the best people neither are democrats. What matters is that we have open debate.

I think it is important to recognize that there exists an entire industry focused on enriching itself at the expense of breaking the political system in this country.  Certain individuals, organizations, and think tanks, which may claim loftier goals, but actually are just in the business of stoking anger and outrage among partisans on both ends of the political spectrum.  Down the street, someone else is selling redistricting maps that will ensure each party ends up with massive numbers of safe seats, making the primaries the only contest that matters and giving those deluded primary voters whose mouths froth with not-really-justified rage the ability to foist mirror images of themselves on the rest of us.

 

I was reading an interview with Sen. Flake (R-AZ), who apparently was once invited, along with some other congressmen, to play a game of basketball with Pres. Obama at the White House.  Somehow this event got out and his office ended up getting inundated with calls from constituents screaming at him to cancel his participation in the game.  I'd like to think he ordered his staff to politely tell those people to f--- off, but I'm sure that wasn't the case.  Crazies like those people are going to doom us all.

 

Maybe one day, with the parties continuing to be unable to work together, our roads will crumble to dust (you can't expect Republicans to compromise on raising the federal gas tax, even to the point of letting it rise with inflation), and the military will be holding its planes together with duct tape (Democrats couldn't possibly authorize that much money for the evil military-industrial complex).  Then perhaps, there will be a collective realization that it might not have been worth getting so mad over fairly little things that we stopped seeing fellow citizens as people, but as an army of "others" that needed to be beaten into submission to the point where they wouldn't have to be heard from again.

I'm actually surprised peoples reactions from these elections. While I personally don't care, democrats think Republicans are scum of the Earth, and its a Nation sin they the republicans got elected. While Republicans are just happen saying democrats have done nothing but hold the country back. Honestly, if there was a third party that was just as strong as republicans or democrats, I'd imagine they would of been elected. This rivalry is becoming insane. I think if we locked all the democrats and republicans in a room, till they solved the problems of the economy, within 5 mins would have to send in armed police officers from them murdering each other. 

I'm so ashamed to be American right now - we must look like bloody fools to the rest of the world, and that's not just because of this election.

 

 

Hillary is a Progressive... which means she's a closet Socialist. So is Warren and O'Malley. Bernie Sanders is the only one on your list that is openly, and quite proudly, a Socialist. Anytime you steal money from someone that earns it and give it to someone that doesn't... it's wrong and it's just theft. Doesn't matter how you disguise it.

 

Now, THAT would make me embarrassed to be an American. What is even with your nations obsession with "socialism" whereby anyone who indicates they want to help other people through times of hardship is immediately an America hating scumbag?

 

From your constitution:

"to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States"

 

Surely it is in the general Welfare of the nation to ensure the well being of the citizens you are spending hundreds of billions of dollars protecting?

 

My wife just sent me this joke... hysterical

 

An Italian doctor says:

"In Italy, medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man's testicles, put them on another man, and in 6 weeks, he is looking for work".

 

"The Dutch doctor says:

"That's nothing, in Holland we take part of a brain, put it in another man, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work".

 

"The Canadian doctor says:

"Gentlemen, we take half a heart from a man, put it in another mans chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for work".

 

"The American doctor laughs:

"You all are behind us. Six years ago, we took a man with no brains, no heart, and no balls and made him President.

Now, the whole country is looking for work!"

"The Canadian doctor says:

"Gentlemen, we take half a heart from a man, put it in another mans chest, and in 2 weeks he is back at work with no debt".

 

"The American doctor laughs:

"We can take someone to hospital with a cardiac arrest, treat them unsuccessfully, have their insurance duck out because they didn't tell them about a staph infection they'd had 24 years earlier. Then we slap their family with the bill, take their house to pay for it, and then watch the now destitute family get ill and die on the streets with no moral or legal repercussions."

 

Breaking Bad in Canada / the UK:

"You've been a hard working teacher who's paid taxes all your life. I'm afraid you have lung cancer. Are you free to start treatment on Monday? Excellent. Don't worry, if it doesn't work out your family will be supported."

Ah politics. The elections here in Georgia were interesting, I can see the strategy of turning us into a swing state taking shape. Nearly every urban center voted Democrat. Times' a changing.

 

That said, I don't give a damn who takes office. Folks will find some way to blame the Oval Office for all everything wrong in their life. Stubbed my toe? Blame Obama! Lost the remote? Blame Bush!

 

Idiocy. 

Ah politics. The elections here in Georgia were interesting, I can see the strategy of turning us into a swing state taking shape. Nearly every urban center voted Democrat. Times' a changing.

 

That said, I don't give a damn who takes office. Folks will find some way to blame the Oval Office for all everything wrong in their life. Stubbed my toe? Blame Obama! Lost the remote? Blame Bush!

 

Idiocy.

Exactly.

 

US Politics are broken, and have been since long before 2000.

Well okay... I have so many guns drawn at me right now, and I really hate writing long posts so I'll just wing it.

 

Rhizo Sir, I've been a creature of politics for a very long time and I know liberal speak when I hear it. It's the same snotty attitude from "progressive" University Professors that indoctrinate our children from their lofty, tax-payer funded, tenured, bastions of "I know better about the world and how you must live your life". They ingnore fly over country, and discount the worth of anyone with a southern accent as... some kind of intellectual defect. They call conservatives racist, flat earthers, and knuckle-draggers. So really my reply to LE was very kind, and would have come from a much darker part of me if I did not respect him so much.

 

We do hate socialists. We do hate communists. We also hate a monarchy. My English cousins in the UK know this first hand.

We're not embarrassed about it... and "general" does not mean "absolute".

 

I have never in all my life seen my country as divided as it is now. This is the product of Socialists in control of Congress and the Presidency for just two years. Can you imagine what it would be like if Republicans failed to take control of the House in 2010?

I found LE's comment politically neutral, if there's such a thing.