So the no-lynching d1 king is voting on d1.

 

It's all about optimal strategy.  If we don't go with my plan, then we need to lynch.

There's no investigative roles, so we have to hope to get lucky.

It's every man for himself, town has a good chance of winning if the targets are killed right. 

But what if Kevin himself is mafia?

That's also a good question. 

The same can go for you since you asked the question

I think we should follow Kevin's plan if his math is right. I've been out of the math game too long to remember how to check his math but I'm willing to give Kevin the benefit of the doubt. Win or lose this will be a sure fire way of making this the fastest game in IRON mafia history.

I think we should follow Kevin's plan if his math is right. I've been out of the math game too long to remember how to check his math but I'm willing to give Kevin the benefit of the doubt. Win or lose this will be a sure fire way of making this the fastest game in IRON mafia history.

You could be cooperating with Kevin to give the thugs an easy victory.

 

 

sure fire way of making this the fastest game in IRON mafia history.

 

Well if you're after records then I can't say anything.

 

But why are you 2 so eager to end the game at nightfall? 

At the very least, my plan should give a basis for discussion which we can use later if necessary.

 

The scum will know whether the proposal will be a win for them or not.  If we lynch a scum that was opposed to it, we can clear the players on either side.  If we lynch a scum that was in favor of it, then we can put suspicion on the players on either side.

 

However, I think it would be very tough to lynch a scum at this point.  It's 4 townies to 3 scum so they can choose not to vote for one of their own or join in on the lynch of the townie.

 

The advantage we have is that we have vigilante kills.  They don't take a majority and are free from mafia influence.  If we get it wrong, though, we'll be in trouble just like a mislynch.

So who agrees with the plan?

 

 

I, for one, agrees

So I have a feeling EM, Lyner, and Kevin could be on all the same mafia boat wanting this game because they think can win with the given test or they are just being scums trying to test this strategy if it works. 

Yes why such a haste to end the game by 3 players?

It's not a matter of ending the game early.

 

It's a matter of coordinating the vigilante shots.

It's every man for himself, town has a good chance of winning if the targets are killed right.

 

Agreed. Which are the right targets?

 

But why are you 2 so eager to end the game at nightfall?

 

Are you suggesting that the vigilantes should not shoot so that the game goes longer?

 

Any lynch today will most likely be a townie, which would be one less vigilante shot at night.

 

Vote: No lynch

 

(Because the vigilantes should shoot rather than have a mislynch)

How about a new plan?
 
One problem with my original plan is that the scum would agree to it if they know that it would provide a win for them or they would argue against it if they know it would provide a loss for them.
 
Another problem is that it includes me as a target.  Either you trust me that I'm a townie or you don't.
 
Finally, rather than alphabetical, I think we should assign targets based on something relatively random, but available to all.  I could assign a stock to each player and then arrange according to the stock performance on a given day.  For example,

Electric Mango = Apple Inc.
iSocialism = Cisco Systems, Inc.
Lyner = General Electric Company
Nenos the Great = Intel Corporation
Rafay = Microsoft Corporation
Road2Victory = Pfizer Inc.

 

Now players will have to agree or disagree with the plan without the scum knowing whether they will win or lose with it.

Make sense?

I like it. More random, more better. And yes, I am looking forward to this Mexican stand off. Let's do this.

 

 

Are you suggesting that the vigilantes should not shoot so that the game goes longer?

 

Yes I'm suggesting that we stick to the time-tested formula of 1 day-1 lynch. 

True now we are basing ourselves on stock? You can't just judge a book by its cover. I am a little bit weary of you Kevin. 

My scheme is the best chance for the town to win.

 

I initially put everyone alphabetical but upon further review saw that the scum would know whether they would win or not with that ordering.

 

It now seems there are two vocal opponents to that scheme. We have "every man for himself" and "1 day-1 lynch".

 

Both of these plans are sub-optimal and would require more luck to win than my plan.  I'm thinking that the scum would prefer this to my plan.

So who are you saying is scum?

Lyner (GE) = -0.17%

Electric Mango (Apple) = -0.40%

Road2Victory (Pfizer) = -0.83%

iSocialism (Cisco) = -0.95%

Rafay (Microsoft) = -1.38%

Nenos (Intel) = -1.45%

 

Source: Yahoo Finance

I won't go so far as saying I think someone is scum, but if you are against the plan, then you are a misguided townie at the least.

 

Thanks for the update, Nenos!

 Thanks for the update, Nenos!

Sure thing Kevin

Lyner (GE) = -0.17%

Electric Mango (Apple) = -0.40%

Road2Victory (Pfizer) = -0.83%

iSocialism (Cisco) = -0.95%

Rafay (Microsoft) = -1.38%

Nenos (Intel) = -1.45%

 

Source: Yahoo Finance

Awesome. Where's Kevin though?

Awesome. Where's Kevin though?

Another problem is that it includes me as a target.  Either you trust me that I'm a townie or you don't.

 

If you're trusting that I'm townie, there's no point in shooting at me. So of the 6 remaining, 3 are scum and 3 are vigilantes. I need to ponder how this changes the probabilities.

 

So basically you are saying townie and have a plan? But what if inside you are actually mafia and trying to kill everyone on the first round? 

I am just skeptical about you in general, not the plan.