Now, as per Turkish Defence Ministry (and vouched by NATO), the plane flew in straight on ~4km wide path and cross it's territory.
But in a letter sent to UN, which was leaked by wikileakes, and corraborated and picked by other sides and whose authenticity Turkish govt has not denied, this is what they said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-mideast-crisis-syria-un-idUSKBN0TD25H20151124
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russian-plane-shot-down-live-one-pilot-rescued-by-syrian-army-as-turkey-defends-national-duty-latest-a6747746.html
As per letter, the plane was in Turkish territory for 17 seconds and 2-3 kms... so first of all, their radar report tells something different from their UN letter, secondly, if Su-24 takes 17 seconds to travel 1.3 or 1.5 miles of territory in a straight line, as per NATO, then Su-24 would be flying dangerously slow (stall speeds?) over a very hostile territory. This whole story just doesnt adds up.
Then you have Turkey saying they didnt know it was the Russians when Russians had informed the coalition where and when exactly their planes would be. Then it turns out the plane was hit in the rear and hit in Syrian territory.
Oh boy, had it been other way around, this would be making headlines with all the clickbait titles one could think of.
Erdogan needs to cut his losses at this stage and get out. Russians and Americans are in a league of their own in geopolitics and Erdogan is looking like a featherwt in a heavywt bout. Bashar Assad was his ally, now he is the enemy, Kurds are being supported by pretty much everyone much, including his NATO allies, to much of his chargin and more or less have a defacto state. Turkey is bearing the biggest brunt of refugee crises with little or no support from his partners in crime. ISIS has started to bite the hand that has fed it, you had attacks in Paris, in Turkey and in other areas. Turkey needs to mine, wire, dig a big hole and wall the shit out of the border in South. Erdogan has been played by friends and enemies alike, Turks need to cut their losses now. There is nothing to be gained, Erdogan will be needed again to control refugee movements and to ensure stability and no drama in Syria whenever the chapter closes, until then, he needs to bide his time and secure and build a v.v. hard border on the south to ensure Turkey's own territorial integrity so that PKK terrorist dont get too bold and stay in line. He needs to disconnect from ISIS and it's proxies and focus on PKK terror.
If Erdogan is any smart, he should have known that after Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, it's Turkey's turn next to be made unstable. That's why I say, if your nation state can build a nuke, build it, and build a credible nuclear deterrence around it or end up like Iraq, Libya, Syria etc. Has worked well for Israel and Pakistan.
Edited by Shahenshah, 27 November 2015 - 03:53 PM.
Sign In
Create Account
Back to top
