The Force Awakens
 
Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Rolecop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

 
Character names have been assigned such that townies have good-guy names from the Star Wars universe and scum have bad-guy names. Roles do not correlate with the Star Wars names (Yoda would not necessarily be the most powerful).
 

You are Snap Wexley, a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Town controls the game.

 
Players:

Commander Shepard Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Fox Fire
Imran Ehsan
iSocialism
Kaziocore Shahenshah
Lyner
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
Road2Victory ccabal86
Robert2424
Rusken
Samus
The Warrior
Yehom

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday.
 
Fox Fire, Poe Dameron, Ascetic Sane Cop, lynched Day 1
Rusken, Leia Organa, Motion Detector, lynched Day 2
Samus,, Chewbacca, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, killed Night 2.
Rafay, R2-D2, 3-shot (ascetic-proof) Rolestopper lynched Day 3
Mandarijn, Admiral Ackbar, Macho Flavor Cop, killed Night 3.
Robert2424, BB-8, Odd Night Tracker, killed Night 3.
Perez, Maz Kanata, Voyeur, lynched Day 4.
Ccabal86, Luke Skywalker, Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, lynched Day 5.
Yehom, Ello Asty, Bodyguard, killed Night 5.

So your vote of me is predicated upon the opinion of someone who openly champions his ability to deceive the town into doing his work for him as scum, is because I voted to remove an inactive player from the game while almost everyone else agreed that removing an inactive was our best option as a town, and because I pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious, after half a dozen other people pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious? Does that about cover it? Seems more to me that the scum in this game are afraid that I might have some influence with other people and might be able to seek them out and prosecute them.

 

Now that iSoc has satisfied my reasoning for initially voting for him....

 

UNVOTE: iSocialism

 

VOTE: The Warrior

 

He's been suspicious to me for a while, plus he's a good player, able to pass himself off as anything he wants. Pretty scummy, IMO.

and what might that be?

 

Mainly that you really hadn't answered the questions he posed. IMO you have to my satisfaction now, which is why I reversed my vote.

 

TW has also been on my radar for quite some time, for reasons elaborated on by Samus and Mandj.

 

Unless I see something more compelling regarding another person, this is where I stand for now.

So your vote of me is predicated upon the opinion of someone who openly champions his ability to deceive the town into doing his work for him as scum, is because I voted to remove an inactive player from the game while almost everyone else agreed that removing an inactive was our best option as a town, and because I pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious, after half a dozen other people pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious? Does that about cover it? Seems more to me that the scum in this game are afraid that I might have some influence with other people and might be able to seek them out and prosecute them.

Samoose is on my list too.

While it's cute to watch people go immediately towards someone else, I have to base it on what I previously stated, and that is inactivity. With Samus posting the information, I have to go with the most inactive at this time.

 

UNVOTE

Vote: Kazio

tbh I don't think Lyner is scum.

 

My predictions are The Warrior, R2V & Kaz so far, I suspect there are two more but can't quite decide yet who

So you think I am scum? Explain other than that I post a lot, thats an obvious reason. 

So your vote of me is predicated upon the opinion of someone who openly champions his ability to deceive the town into doing his work for him as scum, is because I voted to remove an inactive player from the game while almost everyone else agreed that removing an inactive was our best option as a town, and because I pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious, after half a dozen other people pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious? Does that about cover it? Seems more to me that the scum in this game are afraid that I might have some influence with other people and might be able to seek them out and prosecute them.

lol i'll ignore the part about me.

 

but you seem to suggest you have some knowledge we don't have. Why don't you share that?

 

 

 

Now that iSoc has satisfied my reasoning for initially voting for him....

 

UNVOTE: iSocialism

 

VOTE: The Warrior

 

He's been suspicious to me for a while, plus he's a good player, able to pass himself off as anything he wants. Pretty scummy, IMO.

and what might that be?

 

Mainly that you really hadn't answered the questions he posed. IMO you have to my satisfaction now, which is why I reversed my vote.

 

TW has also been on my radar for quite some time, for reasons elaborated on by Samus and Mandj.

 

Unless I see something more compelling regarding another person, this is where I stand for now.

So your vote of me is predicated upon the opinion of someone who openly champions his ability to deceive the town into doing his work for him as scum, is because I voted to remove an inactive player from the game while almost everyone else agreed that removing an inactive was our best option as a town, and because I pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious, after half a dozen other people pointed out that Robert was acting suspicious? Does that about cover it? Seems more to me that the scum in this game are afraid that I might have some influence with other people and might be able to seek them out and prosecute them.

Samoose is on my list too.

 

everyone's on your list aren't they?

Well, for the first couple of days, people should be ranking the probabilities of scum vs. townie.

imo right now, The Warrior has suggested he has a possible town power role which I perceive as a way to potentially get the current wagon off him, if he does then I will back off him and unvote, if he doesn't prove so then in my eyes you're even more scum than I initially believed.

Interesting accusations against TW. I would normally put down the flip flopping on D1 as an inexperienced players actions playing the game for the first time. However, Samus has a point about him targeting Robert. Still this is his first game so we need to take that into account. I would be interested to hear more clarification from TW whether that post was trying to set up robert as a potential lynch candidate and if so, why he thinks Robert should be lynched.

 

I am also still interested to hear from the "lurkers". Kaz is inactive. I would rather we get a replacement for him that lynch him. MOD do we have any replacements available?

 

As for the others, they have been on the forum and not posting much, just "lurking". These are more suspicious to me. Going by kevin's post count, the least 5 active are:

 

Electric Mango 17

Rafay 13

Perez 13

Yehom 10

Lyner 8

Kaziocore 7 (replacement possible?)

 

These guys need to post more and weigh in on who they think are scum. I dont want the townies bickering against each other while the scums lurk around.

Sorry guys!

 

My isp is so shit, we still have no internet connection since last week. If it's possible, please replace me. I don't know when they would fix the connection.

If Kazio is replaced, then my vote will change, until then, I'm keeping my vote.

 

At least they came forward about it, but, well, you know, trust issues.

If Kazio is replaced, then my vote will change, until then, I'm keeping my vote.

 

At least they came forward about it, but, well, you know, trust issues.

Same goes for me

Q: Where does Princess Leia go shopping for clothing and such?
A: At the Darth Maul, of course.



Vote Count

The Warrior (3): Samus, Mandarijn, Finster Baby,
Electric Mango (2): Kaziocore, Perez,
Kaziocore (2): Road2Victory, Rusken,
Perez (1): Electric Mango,
Lyner (1): Robert2424, 
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Rusken (0): 
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Yehom (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Samus (0):
Road2Victory (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, The Warrior, Yehom, Lyner, Rafay, iSocialism,

 
With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, February 6, at 18:00 EST.

As mod, I won't do post counts.

I will post the vacancy, but don't have a replacement ready at the moment.

Lyner is normally an active player, but also has a low posting count. However, he can't be trusted.

Lyner

 

I do not count that as a vote, if that was the intention.

Wait, when did Kazio vote for Mango?

Lurker Watch!

 

*ALERT* ALERT* ALERT*

 

Yehom

Last Active on Forums -> Today

Last Post on this Thread ->  27 January 2016

 

Perez

Last Active on Forums -> Yesterday

Last Post on this Thread ->  29 January 2016

 

Lyner

Last Active on Forums -> Yesterday

Last Post on this Thread ->  28 January 2016

Is that like Storm Watch 2016?

I feel bad for tW. People want active players who actually have something to say, someone who is actually forming educated opinions and now because of that he is 1st on the chopping block. I would much rather play with get rid of the weak and inactive players 1st.

/me listens to EM carefully - sage old Mafia player that he is.

I feel bad for tW. People want active players who actually have something to say, someone who is actually forming educated opinions and now because of that he is 1st on the chopping block. I would much rather play with get rid of the weak and inactive players 1st.

I don't agree with the idea of getting rid of inactives first, because every night mafia is still going to kill us regardless. We need to get rid of who we think are scum. The inactives don't help by not contributing but still the priority should be whoever we think is scum and right now TW has sounded really scummy. But he has suggested he is a town player with an ability, if this is so, help us out bruh!

 

There's no going back from that suggestion. If you can't prove it, then you've accidently just revealed you are not what you say you are and it's only fair for me to assume you are scum.

 

The reasoning for TW was already explained on pages 14-16 I think, I got this quote from Samus and I tend to agree with him:

TW seems the most scummy tbh, that timeline of events he posted seems more like a push to pose Robert as scum and get a wagon on him again.

 

Also bare in mind this is his first game of Mafia, he seems to be trying too hard to prove to be the innocent townie bystander, while actively pushing for people to be lynched.

 

First CS for his inactivity, then being part of suspected scum who lynched FF & now his persistent accusations towards Robert. Nobody in this game has flip flopped so much.

 

I see right through you scum.

 

Vote: The Warrior.

 

Also Imran, I greatly agree that D1 lynches are necessary, never thought about it like that before. But we atleast have some form of information now.

Since this still seems to be the basis of the vote against me, let's revisit it again.

 

The day 1 timeline that I posted was not meant to implicate anyone in particular. It was simply a recap of what happened on day 1 followed by my commentary on suspicious activity. Was it a brief summary? Sure, but anyone could have gone back and read the first 12 pages of the thread to fill in the rest of the picture. What I posted was not new information. Everything said there was already said by others.

 

Regarding Robert and CS:

I was not pushing for Robert to be lynched. It was pointed out that he was "trigger happy". It seemed to me that that was probably a bad thing based off of the reactions it drew from Samus, Perez, Rusken, and Yehom. I was the 5th vote against Robert based strictly off of those reactions. Chalk it up to being a "noob" but I was willing to assume that he was acting suspicious based off of that.

 

I then withdrew my vote against Robert on page 6 (post #104) and voted for CS due to inactivity. That was the day after CS left IRON for MI6. I was assuming that replacing a player on the 6th day of the game (Jan 10th) wasn't something that would be easy to do and therefore removing them through a lynch would be the best recourse. You can see that this was my line of thinking by looking at my response in post #116 when I unvoted for CS:

 

 

I will rescind my vote of CS for now. But if the options were to have to try and find a replacement vs removing someone who was already less active and left the alliance, option 2 was the easiest. Unvote CS.

I was also unaware that Finster was standing by and could replace someone if necessary. I would have advocated for that first had I known finding and incorporating a replacement would have been that easy. In any case, up to that point CS had only posted one time in the thread. A little while later there was another run on CS because he had not been replaced and he still had not showed back up to post. Several people seemed to agree that there had been adequate time for CS to respond, but he still hadn't.

 

Regarding Fox Fire:

Mandarijn pointed out in post #135 that we still hadn't heard anything from Fox Fire. (Kevin officially replaced CS with Finster in post #145 on Jan 13th, which was three days after we first discussed the possibility of replacing CS.) After seeing that CS had been replaced with a hopefully active Finster, I unvoted for CS/Finster in post #151 and voted for Fox Fire after it had been pointed out that she was almost completely invisible after only posting once in 9 days. Then Mandarijn and several others voted for Fox Fire for the exact same reason that I did - inactivity. We then asked Kevin to try and ping Fox Fire. He did so in post #180 on page 9. Imran then pointed out that Fox Fire had been around the forums but still had not posted in this thread further going on to explain why it was bad for the town.

 

After the discussion about Fox Fire, Robert's name came up again. His "no lynch policy on day 1" was brought up by Imran in post #195 when he voted to lynch Yehom for no apparent reason in post #194. Robert then went on to defend himself in post #196 and a couple other posts after that which caused Samus to comment on Robert's behavior in post #205:

 

 

 

bad comeback, sound like a desperate scum trying not to give his identity away now.

 

Finster then also commented that his actions sounded suspicious in post #224.

 

Despite the discussion about Robert again in the last couple days of "day 1", I did not change my vote back to Robert from Fox Fire. For someone who supposedly "had it out" for Robert and was "persistently accusing him" you would have thought that I would have had the opportunity to change my vote back to Robert at that point. Rather, I stayed with my Fox Fire vote because she had only posted once in a 16 day period (day 1) and it did not look like we were going to be getting a replacement for her too. She was on the forums during day 1. Why didn't she post here any more? What legitimate reason did anyone in the "Vote Fox Fire" camp have to vote to lynch anyone else? Not being visible in the thread was suspicious, especially given that she was active on the forums several times. Removing the seemingly inactive members from the game seemed more beneficial than anything. Either: 1) We removed someone who was possibly being scummy by lurking and trying to remain inconspicuous or 2) We removed someone who wasn't going to contribute in any meaningful way anyway and wouldn't help us as a town even if she was active.

Nice summary TW.

 

But.. You've failed to respond to my latest accusation.

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/55574-kh-11-the-force-awakens-mafia-day-2/page-23?do=findComment&comment=825806

Very scumlike to write such a wall of text to prove your innocence!

*Looks up  at TW* I skimmed what you stated, and I've honestly had no reason to suspect you at this time. As I've stated time and time again, let's get rid of the inactives, while having discussions in between. That way we're getting rid of the players that aren't here, while still learning about who is doing what and why.

 

It seems to be a lost concept.

Vote Lyner

Vote Lyner

why?