The Force Awakens
 
Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Rolecop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

 
Character names have been assigned such that townies have good-guy names from the Star Wars universe and scum have bad-guy names. Roles do not correlate with the Star Wars names (Yoda would not necessarily be the most powerful).
 

You are Snap Wexley, a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Town controls the game.

 
Players:

Commander Shepard Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Fox Fire
Imran Ehsan
iSocialism
Kaziocore Shahenshah
Lyner
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
Road2Victory ccabal86
Robert2424
Rusken
Samus
The Warrior
Yehom

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday.
 
Fox Fire, Poe Dameron, Ascetic Sane Cop, lynched Day 1
Rusken, Leia Organa, Motion Detector, lynched Day 2
Samus,, Chewbacca, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, killed Night 2.
Rafay, R2-D2, 3-shot (ascetic-proof) Rolestopper lynched Day 3
Mandarijn, Admiral Ackbar, Macho Flavor Cop, killed Night 3.
Robert2424, BB-8, Odd Night Tracker, killed Night 3.
Perez, Maz Kanata, Voyeur, lynched Day 4.
Ccabal86, Luke Skywalker, Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, lynched Day 5.
Yehom, Ello Asty, Bodyguard, killed Night 5.

MVPs never come from the losing side but I think Perez had things analyzed correctly before he got lynched on Day 4 and I think that was the turning point of the game.

 

I'll give the honor to Imran because the doc was still protecting him on the last night!

Perez provided opening by I believe to be bit of poor wording, allowing the opening to fill it up with fluff and doubt. 

 

Mand holding on to tWs info imo was a big mistake. I think he got greedy hoping imran will deliver some more scum.

 

What I also found bit shocking was towards the end, Imran pretty much led all the lynch wagons, all went wrong for the town and town still followed through. 

 

 

 

Night 1:

•  
• Mandarijn, Macho Flavor Cop, flavor investigates The Warrior and learns his character name is Kylo Ren.
•   Mand

So Yehom/Finster..dont feel too bad. We strategised a lot to confuse you guys...

I don't feel bad at all. I had some hunches but allowed my thoughts to be strong armed into being ill informed.

 

All in all, not bad for being a Mafia rookie myself.

 

So Yehom/Finster..dont feel too bad. We strategised a lot to confuse you guys...

I don't feel bad at all. I had some hunches but allowed my thoughts to be strong armed into being ill informed.

 

All in all, not bad for being a Mafia rookie myself.

 

You had it right more times than most. o/

Wow, winning without getting a single soldier killed in this big game, you guys are awesome

 

 

 

Pretty balanced roles for both sides this time I guess, except towns didn't use it effectively

 

Night 1: Rafay as a 3-shot rolestopper using his ability from the first days are sooo bad

Night 2: lmao we missed the ascetic part of Samus

Night 3: Brilliance from Imran's role claim

 

 

Also Kevin can we have permission to read the scum quicktopics

 

Sorry I can't participate much on the early days, if I was I think we wouldn't have Samus to open his card so quickly, plus overall activity

 

Thanks for the game!

 

 

Night 1: Rafay as a 3-shot rolestopper using his ability from the first days are sooo bad

 

No actually the stupid town lynching w/o any clue everyday IS bad. And at least I saved Samus on N1. 

 

I knew I had to use my abilities or lose them as the town sucked so better use them before when you know idiots are on your team. Even sheep have more brains than the town. Miserable wretches. You deserve to lose.

 

I'm going in low energy mode.

Wow, winning without getting a single soldier killed in this big game, you guys are awesome

 

 

 

Pretty balanced roles for both sides this time I guess, except towns didn't use it effectively

 

Night 1: Rafay as a 3-shot rolestopper using his ability from the first days are sooo bad

Night 2: lmao we missed the ascetic part of Samus

Night 3: Brilliance from Imran's role claim

 

 

Also Kevin can we have permission to read the scum quicktopics

 

Sorry I can't participate much on the early days, if I was I think we wouldn't have Samus to open his card so quickly, plus overall activity

 

Thanks for the game!

You can read it here:

 

Kevin already shared the link:

http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/8gQgKxD6E6N

 

 

 

Night 4:

• iSocialism, 1-Shot Bulletproof Neapolitan, targets Lyner.
• wut?

-- Some interesting tid bits from mafia discussions:

 

 

 

Councilor on Councilor Violence:

The Warrior

02-23-2016

12:11 PM ET (US)

And Mandarijn is still bitching about me. Can we please kill him?

 

MVPs never come from the losing side but I think Perez had things analyzed correctly before he got lynched on Day 4 and I think that was the turning point of the game.

 

I'll give the honor to Imran because the doc was still protecting him on the last night!

Perez provided opening by I believe to be bit of poor wording, allowing the opening to fill it up with fluff and doubt. 

 

Mand holding on to tWs info imo was a big mistake. I think he got greedy hoping imran will deliver some more scum.

 

What I also found bit shocking was towards the end, Imran pretty much led all the lynch wagons, all went wrong for the town and town still followed through. 

 

 

 

Night 1:

•  
• Mandarijn, Macho Flavor Cop, flavor investigates The Warrior and learns his character name is Kylo Ren.
•   Mand

 

I couldn't come forward or I would've been dead the next night as I couldn't be protected... I hoped to discover some more Mafia 1st, but of course I missed the Ascetic part on N2 and on N3 I was already dead. BUT SERIOUSLY TOWN... Didn't I leave enough clues already that TW was scum? DJEEEEEEZZZZZZZ and then you believe a bullshit story from TW (who had a nice post written up already by the time the new day started). That's the real 

 

After I was killed and I saw the discussion going on on D4 I got 3/4 Mafia right, only Imran flew under my radar after that... So Imran is also my MVP.

Mod notes

Overall, the game played out differently than expected. The town had a lot of investigative roles. I gave the scum both Ninja and Godfather abilities to counteract that but it turns out that those abiliities never came into play. The town had several protective abilities and was only able to prevent one kill, plus a bulletproof was used.

 

Day 2: Rusken voting for Samus would not be a real scum tell. There was no way that a claimed cop would get lynched and the scum would not try to advocate it.

 

Fox Fire was revealed as Ascetic Sane Cop. Samus took the role as backup so if the town believed his claim, they should have understood that ascetic means the role can't be protected by the doctor or bodyguard.

 

Day 4: Mandarijn the flavor cop gets killed in the night and had been after The Warrior all game; I was expecting a lynch within a few hours, but the scum team talked their way out of it.

 

Day 4: Lyner, Yehom, Ccabal86, and Perez all visited Imran Ehsan the night before (bedroom party) and that might have self-confirmed their roles with some degree of certainty but nobody really mentioned it.

 

Night 4: The scum somehow thought that Lyner the doctor might be bulletproof so instead targeted iSocialism who had bulletproof. How ironic.

 

I give the scum a lot of credit for talking their way out of some bad situations. Well-played!

This pretty much sums up all the big mistakes by the town:

- Samus (and every one else) missing the Ascetic part... Can someone truely say that they noticed it? (As I see Mafia used a Strongman kill as well, so they didn't notice it either)

- Town not lynching TW immediately after I was killed

- Lyner, Yehom, ccabal and Perez could've known/assume that they were all town

- I also think Lyner wasn't active enough and as only confirmed townie he should've taken a leading role, instead Imran did it...

 

Also that Jack-of-all-trades is OP

Do these safe claims always get included? That's stupid.

Imran gets my MVP vote. He was completely off my radar.

From my convo with KevinH:

I'm just going to put this here for later reference. 

 

Scumlist:

TW

Shah

EM

(Imran)

 

I figured it out: 

TW

Shah

EM

Perez

 

100% certainty 

 

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This is very true actually and probably cost us the game :

Imran

01-09-2016

09:51 AM ET (US)

Actually thats a good thing for the town. Its too bad (for the town) that you are scum in this game.. . As kevin is mod and Kazio is also scum, the town is missing 3 of the most experienced players in their team..lol. So its our game to lose guys. We need to take out the semi experienced guys first and leave the noobs for later. So I guess that means robert, Lyner, iSoc. Rafay and CS are semi experienced as well but they always look scummy. Others are noobs who can be manipulated with ease *evil laughter*

Samus seems like a good target. Possible problem with him though is as he is popular with the noobs he may draw some of their actions which is not a problem if its a watcher but he may get protected by a doc.

 

I think that Samus should be our target. He is active and could have the ability to sway votes in certain directions in the future.

 

Samus sounds good but lets wait for EM's thoughts.

 

The faction kill gives "no result" (Samus is still alive).

 

Rafay is a 3-shot Rolestopper.

 

1. As shown Samus will draw actions from the noobs. So if we target him we have to go for EM strong man kill.

 

Where the hell is the love guys?

 

 

- Samus (and every one else) missing the Ascetic part... Can someone truely say that they noticed it? (As I see Mafia used a Strongman kill as well, so they didn't notice it either)

 

We missed it too but if we didnt use the Strong Man kill the kill wouldnt have gone through because of Rafay's role stopper ability. We failed killing him on N1 bc of that too. The role stopper is the only action that is not stopped by the ascetic modifier.

 

But we also fed a lot of misinformation in the game which resulted in the townies not catching up, like we knew that a Role Stopper can stop kills but we fed the info that he cant so Rafay was lynched. We also threw a lot of strange theories out there like the odd/even mafia groups, the serial killer, the scum with the townie role powers...lol

 

Kevin already shared the link:

http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/8gQgKxD6E6N

 

 

No permission, aka 403 Forbidden

 

 

 

Also @scums do you guys are given a safe role claim or that was just a gamble? (especially TW)

Safe role claim is given.

 

Lyner, link appears to work for Samus...

I started getting the Forbidden thingy also halfway through the game. I used a proxy server afterwards.

Safe role claims were not given. Just safe names. We made up the roles.

Ah yes, safe name claims were given. Roles were all fairy tale.

Ah yes, safe name claims were given. Roles were all fairy tale.

 

Yeah we had no way of knowing whether a town Role Cop or a town Commuter will suddenly show up. But the townies also helped in this because all you guys were revealing role left and right while having almost no useful info to share. It helped us come up with roles that will be believable, although at points we were thinking Mand may be a commuter or a role cop.

 

Point to note, dont reveal your oles too early. It just helps the scum..lol. I think the experienced players played it well..Lyner, iSocialism revealed their role pretty late but a lot of others just came out and informed everyone what abilities they have, making it easier for us to plan our actions at night.

Very well played then

Thanks man.

I've read the mafia discussion, it's quite enlightning and interesting to get a view into the minds of the Mafia.

Also Imran: quite --> quiet 

 

I will thrust everyone even less next game! And bullshit reasons why you can't post/analyse because of a job interview or something won't cut it any more, as I won't believe you.

 

Some general tips:

You can use the search function on the forum to see all posts from 1 person.

For the ones who played their 1st game, read the mafia discussion. It's a looooong read, but you'll learn a lot on how the mafia thinks and what they all do.

I doubt this much mafia strategising goes on in other mafia games. It really depends on who the scum are, everyone has their own way of thinking. In this case all of us... me, TW and later shah were nitpicking details and scenarios bc thats what we do best   but in usual games i doubt this much thought goes into who to kill and how to respond to events. The mafia encryptor (that is day talk) is also not usual for normal mafia games so scum dont have this much time to strategise and coordinate actions (i personally think its great and all games should have this option for the scum).

Imran, shah, and I did a lot of strategizing as you can see. I don't have anything to base it off of but I would be surprised if that much work goes into other mafia games regularly.

 

Also, while trusting anyone should definitely be earned in these games, keep in mind that obviously roles are going to change from game to game. So in future games it's probably best if you don't just assume that someone is scum or not based on an old game.

I've read the mafia discussion, it's quite enlightning and interesting to get a view into the minds of the Mafia.

Also Imran: quite --> quiet

 

I will thrust everyone even less next game! And bullshit reasons why you can't post/analyse because of a job interview or something won't cut it any more, as I won't believe you.

 

Some general tips:

You can use the search function on the forum to see all posts from 1 person.

For the ones who played their 1st game, read the mafia discussion. It's a looooong read, but you'll learn a lot on how the mafia thinks and what they all do.

I honestly did have two interviews spanning three days meaning 4 days of being busy. I was less active and offered to delay for same period if everyone wanted.

 

I wouldn't pull something like that to kill time.

 

And tbh, if mafia stopped posting, things really slowed down. I also pretended to be pro but this is my second game actually, last one was with RnR long long ago. This way I kept selling the story that killing em would be noob mistake as if it was a nugget of wisdom. I'd sell you you sand and call it gold :-|, whatever to keep the boat afloat.

 

Another thing I would suggest is don't forget the things from past days, everyone tended to forget the past day at next day.

 

Re Mafia discussions: I think we got lucky and managed to have very very active players.

 

I really think lack of townie activities lead to two lynches I.e. Rafey and Ccabal. It's purely down to low activity, else those lynches would have been v. hard.

@Kevin - I am curious why you put a Neapolitan in the game as all the townies had power roles. Samus was VT at first but since he was backup, any townie lynched on D1 would mean he will not be a VT by N1.

 

Also why put the BP modifier on him? Was it decided randomly?

@Kevin - I am curious why you put a Neapolitan in the game as all the townies had power roles. Samus was VT at first but since he was backup, any townie lynched on D1 would mean he will not be a VT by N1.

 

Also why put the BP modifier on him? Was it decided randomly?

 

Don't think I put too much analysis into it, but I thought the town had enough power roles and didn't want to give much more.  I sort of hoped that the Neapolitan investigation would be seen by somebody and add to confusion.  Since it is such a weak role, I added the bulletproof to offset the scum getting the extra kill when the jack-of-all-trades used the vigilante kill.  (That part worked out)