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[Lysistrata]

If we learned anything from last night it was that when Marco Rubio received the kiss of death from the Republican establishment, it sealed his fate. I understand that Marco wants to run for Governor of Florida... if he is not elected President. It would be smart for Marco at this point, to pull out of this race, saying "it's just not my time". Next Tuesday I believe he will be unmercifully beaten by Donald Trump in his own state. That will be quite embarrassing for the golden boy, to then try to run for Governor.

 

Donald Trump won Hawaii. It was widely believed that Marco would carry the island state, that is one of the most liberal states in the country. Finding a Republican there is as rare as hens teeth. Donald Trump is the only Republican anywhere near on track to win the nomination... and he is just now starting to come out of the hard part. After Trump wins Florida next Tuesday, it will be too easy from there. He has totally locked up the south where he should have had the most trouble... it should have been all Cruz territory. If John Kasich pulls off a Hail Mary, and wins Ohio... it is a mere attempt to block his inevitable nomination, but why on earth would anyone take the time to vote for someone that has no chance of being elected?

 

Current Delegate Count

 

Donald Trump - 461

Ted Cruz - 360

Marco Rubio - 154

 

Needed to win - 1,237

 

Next Tuesday is Florida, Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, and North Carolina... with Wyoming, DC, and some provinces in between. I believe after March 15th we will have a presumptive nominee... Donald Trump. Trying to stop him at that point, is futile... you would have to be on drugs to think he won't take New York, California, and most of everything else.

[Lysistrata]

Guess the lack is the same about my weeks-old question not getting any answer, meh.

If you're still talking about Donald Trump and making America great again... I'm not Donald Trump's campaign manager, so go to his website and do your own research. Then you can decide for yourself if you will be voting for him... how close is Belgium to becoming that 51st state? In my own opinion... the U.S.A. once had much greatness it has long been doing without.

[Icewolf]

 

You said you are a strong believer in the constitution, and were a part of the Tea Party movement because of their belief in the constitution. Donald Trump is a man who has declared that he does not accept the rule of law, does not stand by the principle of Freedom of Speech, and regards the entire thing as an inconvenience. Can you explain for me how you reconcile those two positions, support for the constitution and support for Donald Trump over the other Republican candidates?

Sorry for the delay gang, my wife twisted my arm and forced me into the jacuzzi.

 

I don't know why you have a hard time understanding this Ice. I keep repeating myself, and for some reason, you just refuse to accept it as reality. So here it is again... I will support the Republican that is winning. Donald Trump is winning, and he will continue to keep winning. There is nothing that will stop him. If something happens... like maybe he is exposed as being a straw man for Hillary Clinton... I have thought about that scenario... or they have him killed... I have thought about that scenario too... I will then support the next Republican that is winning. Beating the Democrats like a dirty rug is all I care about in this election.

 

Terrorists are something I care less about than Democrats. I don't care where they put them (not here of course), or what they do to them... just as long as they are not able to hurt anyone else... ever. Every moment that I do not have to think about a terrorist, is one more moment I have to think about something that is worth my time. If it were up to me, I would have them executed after I had drained every last piece of information from their maggot brains... and I would not give a shit how anyone felt about it.

 

In regards to the first point, Trump may be leading but he has not already won. We are talking about a candidate who has yet to win a majority in any single state. He is also the least likely of the Republican field to actually be able to win the general. And you keep setting out that you fundamentally disagree with him on many points. 

 

Therefore it doesn't make sense that you seem to be stating that you support whoever is leading in the delegate count, rather than trying to work against a candidate that you don't agree with to get a candidate you prefer on the ticket. 

[sffc1]

Trump has yet to score a 50% majority in any state. His national polling average is in the 30's and has been steady since January, even with most of the other candidates dropping out. Only a few states are winner-take-all (Florida and Ohio among them); most of them are proportional or hybrid. Trump benefits from the winner-take-alls, but he's going to have a tough time getting enough delegates to sweep the convention, especially when the establishment doesn't want him to get the nomination.

[Lysistrata]

I have stated over and over in this thread that the only way to beat Donald Trump is for other candidates to drop out, and make their endorsements. 13 candidates have dropped out, and he's still winning. Your thinking is based on just one more dropping out, and that will do the trick. Good luck with that... I will support who wins.

 

Some people have a problem getting past a candidates abrasive personality, but when you listen to Trump on the issues, I can't see him not winning in a landslide. He declares he is not touching entitlements... that is unheard of with any Conservatives. He blames our lack of growth on bad trade deals, and promises 4-5% growth and keeping our manufacturing in the country. We have about 90 million people not in the workforce... that will change. The unions are holding off their endorsements... they want Trump. He will get the illegal immigration problem solved, both sides have been failing at that for decades. Nobody knows building and management better, and improving our infrastructure will be top priority. Most Americans like this.

 

Trump's objective right now is winning the nomination. He has not even started on Hillary yet... too much of a chance she won't even be able to continue running. If it happens, he will have no trouble burning her to the ground... remember, he knows those Wall Street dudes she has made speeches to. I believe her speeches will be known.

[onbekende]

 

Guess the lack is the same about my weeks-old question not getting any answer, meh.

If you're still talking about Donald Trump and making America great again... I'm not Donald Trump's campaign manager, so go to his website and do your own research. Then you can decide for yourself if you will be voting for him... how close is Belgium to becoming that 51st state? In my own opinion... the U.S.A. once had much greatness it has long been doing without.

 

I tried looking into it, I have yet seen what the US lost, apart from maybe an emptier South-West (aka all them mexicans ).

 

You touch the subject but don't give an answer anyway, geez thanks

 

As for his promises, basic politician promises really, hear such "balloons" (lovely word they use here for "idea's" that are only meant to look pretty but fly away after a day, or wrinkle up in a week ) almost every day here aswell, nothing really comes from it. Much support in US elections comes from anger/resentment towards group X. You don't build/maintain a society hellbent on finding a scapegoat for all the ills it faces. Grow up and see the lack of policies all sides have.

[Icewolf]

I have stated over and over in this thread that the only way to beat Donald Trump is for other candidates to drop out, and make their endorsements. 13 candidates have dropped out, and he's still winning. Your thinking is based on just one more dropping out, and that will do the trick. Good luck with that... I will support who wins.

 

Some people have a problem getting past a candidates abrasive personality, but when you listen to Trump on the issues, I can't see him not winning in a landslide. He declares he is not touching entitlements... that is unheard of with any Conservatives. He blames our lack of growth on bad trade deals, and promises 4-5% growth and keeping our manufacturing in the country. We have about 90 million people not in the workforce... that will change. The unions are holding off their endorsements... they want Trump. He will get the illegal immigration problem solved, both sides have been failing at that for decades. Nobody knows building and management better, and improving our infrastructure will be top priority. Most Americans like this.

 

Trump's objective right now is winning the nomination. He has not even started on Hillary yet... too much of a chance she won't even be able to continue running. If it happens, he will have no trouble burning her to the ground... remember, he knows those Wall Street dudes she has made speeches to. I believe her speeches will be known.

Look at the numbers. Realclear politics has him 10 points behind Rubio in election matchups (Rubio heads Clinton by 4, Trump trails by 6). The majority of REPUBLICAN voters say they would not be satisfied to have him as their candidate. He managed to trail Bernie "I'm a socialist sanders" by 10 percentage points. 

 

These are not the numbers of a popular man. The biggest lie the media are selling right now is that Trump is popular. He is not. He is actually the least popular major candidate right now if you look at how people will vote in the general. 

[Lysistrata]

Look at the numbers. Realclear politics has him 10 points behind Rubio in election matchups (Rubio heads Clinton by 4, Trump trails by 6). The majority of REPUBLICAN voters say they would not be satisfied to have him as their candidate. He managed to trail Bernie "I'm a socialist sanders" by 10 percentage points.    These are not the numbers of a popular man. The biggest lie the media are selling right now is that Trump is popular. He is not. He is actually the least popular major candidate right now if you look at how people will vote in the general. 

Then you should be quietly laughing to yourself as we nominate that awful candidate that Hillary, or Bernie, will easily beat in November. You should want him to win the nomination... instead your scared to death of him. If he is so easily beaten, please someone hurry up and beat him. People want to keep saying he's so awful... but he keeps winning. Must make your heads explode.

 

Here comes Tuesday!

[Icewolf]

He would be easily beaten if there was a single good Republican candidate. There isn't. There is also the fact that the GOP is tearing itself apart, and is likely facing its last election as having even a semblance of a united party. 

[Lysistrata]

He would be easily beaten if there was a single good Republican candidate. There isn't. There is also the fact that the GOP is tearing itself apart, and is likely facing its last election as having even a semblance of a united party. 

This sounds like wishful thinking, and a typical opinion, from a European Socialist. This party that you claim is tearing itself apart and facing it's last election, is the same party that currently controls both Houses of Congress. We're not going anywhere. This is nothing new, we always have spirited debates. I think frustration is setting in... maybe now George Bush will get a break and you guys can have a new American President to hate. I'm having a great time... why so serious?

[ccabal86]

Ben Carson backs Trump:

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35787356

[The Warrior]

Finally, a good policy debate occurred last night. I think it exposed Trump's policy weaknesses. It's too bad this debate couldn't have happened sooner. I really like what Marco Rubio had to say and it further solidified my desire to see him as the Republican nominee.

 

As much of a long shot as he might be at this point, I will be voting for him in my home state on Tuesday. Hopefully he can reverse the polling numbers in Florida and score a big win there. I think that he can do well in my home state too.

[Lysistrata]

Finally, a good policy debate occurred last night. I think it exposed Trump's policy weaknesses. It's too bad this debate couldn't have happened sooner. I really like what Marco Rubio had to say and it further solidified my desire to see him as the Republican nominee.

 

As much of a long shot as he might be at this point, I will be voting for him in my home state on Tuesday. Hopefully he can reverse the polling numbers in Florida and score a big win there. I think that he can do well in my home state too.

I absolutely agree with you, but it's too little too late. Too many believe Trump won the debate last night, saying he was more "presidential". Trump will still win big on Tuesday, riding on the wave of trade, entitlements, and illegal immigration.

 

He has everyone convinced that trade deals are the reason for the loss of all our manufacturing jobs... I'll raise my hand as one of those convinced of that. Unions will support his plan. I would really like to not have to hate Unions anymore... I know when you boil it down, they only want to work and support their families.

 

He's a firm believer of Social Security... the way it has been handled since it began only proves it's the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, but if he can somehow keep the hands of Congress out of the cash, and fix the imbalance of those paying into it to those receiving benefits... he may succeed. I have always been against a government controlled retirement plan. Seniors that need it, and Liberals that support it, really like his plan.

 

Immigration reform will happen under Trump. There has been no incentive to get it done because the laws are not enforced, so as a result, it's treated however the current President feels. Trump will enforce the current laws on the books... strongly. This will give Congress the needed incentive to pass new laws that Trump will sign. Oh yes... the wall will be built.

 

I will support any Republican nominee, as long as it is the choice of the people. I have no intention of supporting Mitt Romney again, just because party bosses and elites don't like the people's choice. The Republican Party always goes through this, and they will consolidate under the nominee... just like Bernie fans will get behind whatever criminal they crown. I would have liked Marco or Ted as a better choice... but I don't think it will happen.

 

My guess is Missouri as your home state Sir, I believe you have told me this in the past. Good luck with your primary, and I always appreciate your thoughts here... not often enough in my opinion.

[onbekende]

While I can see Cruz going for a modified Republican party, I just can't see Trump doing the same. You can't with the same faith claim the the Tea Party gave a spiritual boost to the Republican party.

 

Trump is a pragmatist first and foremost, hence he swings so wildly with viewpoints he deems currently favorable and has some obvious "democratic" views aswell to steal the middle field.

 

Guess its only fitting to want the US to be run by the biggest mouth, the irony is trumptastic

[Icewolf]

 

He would be easily beaten if there was a single good Republican candidate. There isn't. There is also the fact that the GOP is tearing itself apart, and is likely facing its last election as having even a semblance of a united party. 

This sounds like wishful thinking, and a typical opinion, from a European Socialist. This party that you claim is tearing itself apart and facing it's last election, is the same party that currently controls both Houses of Congress. We're not going anywhere. This is nothing new, we always have spirited debates. I think frustration is setting in... maybe now George Bush will get a break and you guys can have a new American President to hate. I'm having a great time... why so serious?

 

I am absolutely not a socialist. 

 

AS for the GOP, maybe it is some wishful thinking as I think the US republicans are dangerous for the wider world, and in particular Trump is dangerous for the wider word. However, things do not look good. 

 

1. The only electable candidates in this round have fallen flat

2. Most of the candidates are shockingly bad

3. There is no "unity" candidate left in the race. The two front runners represent extreme wings of the party that don't really get along, and have members that will run against the other candidate. 

4. Neither of the two leading candidates can win a majority in any state, and more importantly, when asked if they would be satisfied with candidate X as the candidate, neither gets significantly above 50%. We can also assume fairly clearly that the 50% for each are a different 50%. 

5. After years of trying to be the party of anti-deficit spending, that identity has crashed and burned as all the candidates try to outdo themselves in being the biggest unfunded tax cutter. 

 

All in all, does this sound like a party that is in good health?

[Lysistrata]

Thank you so much for your concern Ice, but we have everything under control here. I'm a Republican, it's my party, they are my candidates, and this is my country. I'm not worried about it a bit. Since last summer, many people much smarter than both of us have come up with pages of statistics predicting the inevitable doom of Donald Trump and the death of the Republican Party... he's still winning and we're still alive. After Tuesday it will get louder, and Trump will keep winning. Republicans really hate people telling us what to do, who we have to vote for, and we just have to sit here and take it. They tried that with Ronald Reagan, it didn't work.

 

Only Donald Trump can turn a simple campaign rally into a national news story about how desperate Democrats are to stop him, and all he had to do was not show up. They showed their hand last night, and proved he is the one they are most afraid of running against in November.

 

It's the fault of Barack Obama... he divided the people so much by weakening the country, dissolving the borders, and ignoring our laws. Now someone comes along and says he will change all that. I knew it would draw out the Saul Alinsky roaches as soon as they get scared enough... and here they are... and Donald Trump knew exactly when to pull the trigger to expose them all as the anti-First Amendment, anti-American, hate mongering, useless, pieces of trash they are. Donald Trump is a genius.

 

If our candidate can't win as you say, then you have nothing to worry about Ice, but we're going all in. You can't change that.

[dagonslayer51]

 

He would be easily beaten if there was a single good Republican candidate. There isn't. There is also the fact that the GOP is tearing itself apart, and is likely facing its last election as having even a semblance of a united party. 

This sounds like wishful thinking, and a typical opinion, from a European Socialist. This party that you claim is tearing itself apart and facing it's last election, is the same party that currently controls both Houses of Congress. We're not going anywhere. This is nothing new, we always have spirited debates. I think frustration is setting in... maybe now George Bush will get a break and you guys can have a new American President to hate. I'm having a great time... why so serious?

 

 

You throw the European Socialist around as if it were an insult. I can't understand why you would, because currently, Socialist European countries are doing much better than the United States. France has made itself an example to be followed. Its social security is one of the greatest I've ever seen or read about. I was in France during January and I fell sick. I'm not a national of the EU or USA or any big country, but I was seen by a doctor for free and prescribed antibiotics that cost me only 10 Euros. Would that have happened in the US? I don't think so. There are many other examples as to why it works. It may or may not work in the US, but I don't think that socialism is a bad thing. In fact, I happen to believe that bad capitalism (the type of capitalism that actually occurs in the US) will always be inferior to great socialism.

[Lysistrata]

You throw the European Socialist around as if it were an insult.

Because we're American Capitalists... and it is.

In fact, I happen to believe that bad capitalism (the type of capitalism that actually occurs in the US) will always be inferior to great socialism.

Let us know when Panama, or any other country, is ready to lead the world... until then, leave it to us.

[Icewolf]

Thank you so much for your concern Ice, but we have everything under control here. I'm a Republican, it's my party, they are my candidates, and this is my country. I'm not worried about it a bit. Since last summer, many people much smarter than both of us have come up with pages of statistics predicting the inevitable doom of Donald Trump and the death of the Republican Party... he's still winning and we're still alive. After Tuesday it will get louder, and Trump will keep winning. Republicans really hate people telling us what to do, who we have to vote for, and we just have to sit here and take it. They tried that with Ronald Reagan, it didn't work.

 

Only Donald Trump can turn a simple campaign rally into a national news story about how desperate Democrats are to stop him, and all he had to do was not show up. They showed their hand last night, and proved he is the one they are most afraid of running against in November.

 

It's the fault of Barack Obama... he divided the people so much by weakening the country, dissolving the borders, and ignoring our laws. Now someone comes along and says he will change all that. I knew it would draw out the Saul Alinsky roaches as soon as they get scared enough... and here they are... and Donald Trump knew exactly when to pull the trigger to expose them all as the anti-First Amendment, anti-American, hate mongering, useless, pieces of trash they are. Donald Trump is a genius.

 

If our candidate can't win as you say, then you have nothing to worry about Ice, but we're going all in. You can't change that.

Firstly, if European Socialist is an insult, why are you throwing it around? I thought this was supposed to be a civilised discussion. 

 

Secondly, the news story was generated by the bar brawling that took place, and nicely highlighted that Trump thinks the actions of his supporters that have lead to them being charged with assault are justified. Beating up protesters is against freedom of speech, and guess what Trump was highlighted as claiming was acceptable? 

 

It may pander to his supporters, but the majority will not thank him for that. 

[Shahenshah]

 

You throw the European Socialist around as if it were an insult.

Because we're American Capitalists... and it is.

 

 

In fact, I happen to believe that bad capitalism (the type of capitalism that actually occurs in the US) will always be inferior to great socialism.

Let us know when Panama, or any other country, is ready to lead the world... until then, leave it to us.

 

Well if you're a capitalist, why are you pissed about jobs going outside? As capitalists, corporations are going to utilize the factors of production in the most efficient way and they find that someone else is willing to provide same level of quality and quantity at fraction of the costs, probably much better qualified too. What's all the fuss about that?