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[Lysistrata]

lmao you mean ale right?!

Yes Sir! Exactly what I would buy you if we ever get a chance to sit at the same table!  

[Imran Ehsan]

 

Jon Snow can not die.

 

Yes.

 

But yeah I read articles on how Kit Harrington was seen around the set and how he still hasnt cut his hair while they were shooting the show. So they are trying to keep it hush hush.

 

Also, it wont make sense from the story point of view to kill him off..I mean why go through all the story about him becoming the lord Commander just to be killed off right after he becomes one! Also if you read the books, a lot of the book was from his POV so the writer built his character to do something. Robb never had a POV for example so his death wasnt a surprise. Ned's death was a surprise but it was needed for the story. It set off the whole war. Jon's death at this point of the story makes no sense whatsoever.
 

Right up front... I haven't read the books... but I think Jon's apparent death is important to the story to illustrate the entire collapse of the order of The Night's Watch. As long as the watcher's are on the wall... it will never fall. They have assassinated their leader, it can't get any worse than this. The wall will fall, because they have entirely finished with the set created for the wall, and are planning to open the set up for tourism. So the wall is done.

 

There is something in the show that I hear is not in the books. Melisandre, the red woman, is conveniently in Castle Black. In the book she's still with a very alive Stannis Baratheon. She took a mad interest in Jon Snow when she met him, and I believe she knows instinctively, that he has Targaryen blood. I think she will bring Snow back... but anytime something seems obvious in GoT... someone comes in and kills someone else, and blows your mind all over the place.

 

 

Well the Wall will fall thats for sure. The White Walkers cant enter the Seven Kingdoms as long as the Wall is there. But I dont see how that relates to Jon's death. They had their strongest commander die right before (Mormont), and Nights Watch is already fighting between themselves, so that is already being shown. Jon's death brings very little to the story.

 

In the book, Melisandre is at Castle Black too, not with Stannis. She actually even warns him of daggers in the darkness around him or something like that. So I am betting she will be the one to revive him.

 

Also I dont think the revived-Jon will go on a crusade to retake the North from the Boltons. Once the Wall falls and the Others rush in no one will care if the Boltons are the Warden of the North or the Starks. He will probably go on a guerilla warfare against the Walkers while Sansa rallies the North from Winterfell.

[Lysistrata]

Imran... I believe you are entirely correct. The 5th season was such a downer... I mean depressing. There was little to be optimistic about. I have heard that there will be more flashbacks from the past this season. Have to let us see more of the puzzle. I have also heard that they added an eighth season, can't be absolutely sure of that, but it's something that I heard. I do hope it's true.

[Shahenshah]

 

Jon Snow can not die.
 
Yes.
 
But yeah I read articles on how Kit Harrington was seen around the set and how he still hasnt cut his hair while they were shooting the show. So they are trying to keep it hush hush.
 
Also, it wont make sense from the story point of view to kill him off..I mean why go through all the story about him becoming the lord Commander just to be killed off right after he becomes one! Also if you read the books, a lot of the book was from his POV so the writer built his character to do something. Robb never had a POV for example so his death wasnt a surprise. Ned's death was a surprise but it was needed for the story. It set off the whole war. Jon's death at this point of the story makes no sense whatsoever.
 

Right up front... I haven't read the books... but I think Jon's apparent death is important to the story to illustrate the entire collapse of the order of The Night's Watch. As long as the watcher's are on the wall... it will never fall. They have assassinated their leader, it can't get any worse than this. The wall will fall, because they have entirely finished with the set created for the wall, and are planning to open the set up for tourism. So the wall is done.
 
There is something in the show that I hear is not in the books. Melisandre, the red woman, is conveniently in Castle Black. In the book she's still with a very alive Stannis Baratheon. She took a mad interest in Jon Snow when she met him, and I believe she knows instinctively, that he has Targaryen blood. I think she will bring Snow back... but anytime something seems obvious in GoT... someone comes in and kills someone else, and blows your mind all over the place.
 

 
Well the Wall will fall thats for sure. The White Walkers cant enter the Seven Kingdoms as long as the Wall is there. But I dont see how that relates to Jon's death. They had their strongest commander die right before (Mormont), and Nights Watch is already fighting between themselves, so that is already being shown. Jon's death brings very little to the story.
 
In the book, Melisandre is at Castle Black too, not with Stannis. She actually even warns him of daggers in the darkness around him or something like that. So I am betting she will be the one to revive him.
 
Also I dont think the revived-Jon will go on a crusade to retake the North from the Boltons. Once the Wall falls and the Others rush in no one will care if the Boltons are the Warden of the North or the Starks. He will probably go on a guerilla warfare against the Walkers while Sansa rallies the North from Winterfell.

What will Jon do at the wall really? Half his men hated him enough to stàb him, same lot hates the wildnings, chances of wildnings and NW killing each other tbh is higher than ww killing them at this point in storyline. He knows NW is fucked and it's hopeless. Boltons will not buy the ww story, northern Lords will not disobey Boltons openly and leave their castles unguarded inopen defiance to fight Ww. So the way around all this mass is Jon Snow rallies the North, beats Boltons, and then readys for defense.

I do not think rallying the North would take much time. Northern Lords are itching for a stark to lead the fight, they detest Boltons. Rickon is there somewhere too.

Jon also knows there is no hope if North isn't united.

Imran... I believe you are entirely correct. The 5th season was such a downer... I mean depressing. There was little to be optimistic about. I have heard that there will be more flashbacks from the past this season. Have to let us see more of the puzzle. I have also heard that they added an eighth season, can't be absolutely sure of that, but it's something that I heard. I do hope it's true.

Flashbacks won't be from past season, but just past, like flashbacks about Jobs parents and the whole tiwer of the joy arc.

[Lysistrata]

Flashbacks won't be from past season, but just past, like flashbacks about Jobs parents and the whole tiwer of the joy arc.

Yes, Like the one of Cersei in the season 5 opener... I thought it was a really cool twist.

[TheDoom]

Yes I agree with Shahenshah,,sansa cant rally north atleast not alone she completely lacks the military expertise and boltons wont give-north without a fight.It would either be jon rallying north or he and sansa rallying together in name of rickon.The role of sansa will be of espionage.Jon cant do much at wall either and if he stays at wall how will his true parentage come to light.The only person alive who knows jons true parentage is Howland reed father of meera and jojen reed lord of greywater watch.The only way I see jon getting in touch with him is if he rallies north and go greywater watch asking support since reeds are considered as staunch supporters of starks.

Jon is going south of wall for sure now how much south he goes is to be seen will he go all the way to iron throne??

[Fermion]

Well there is a theory that the northern Lords are trying to get Jon to become the stark Lord because they read Robb's decree. If Jon Snow dies and is reborn, they will try to bring him back.

[Samus]

anyone else got any more theories to share?!

[Kaziocore]

Jon Snow will be resurrected by the white walkers lol

[Shahenshah]

Yes I agree with Shahenshah,,sansa cant rally north atleast not alone she completely lacks the military expertise and boltons wont give-north without a fight.It would either be jon rallying north or he and sansa rallying together in name of rickon.The role of sansa will be of espionage.Jon cant do much at wall either and if he stays at wall how will his true parentage come to light.The only person alive who knows jons true parentage is Howland reed father of meera and jojen reed lord of greywater watch.The only way I see jon getting in touch with him is if he rallies north and go greywater watch asking support since reeds are considered as staunch supporters of starks.
Jon is going south of wall for sure now how much south he goes is to be seen will he go all the way to iron throne??

Rickon is hiding amongst the northern houses, he's too young to rally anyone. North never forgets as they say, northern houses bide their time, looking for a rallying cause. Jon was legitimised by KingindaNorth so Jon is a rightful hier too, he will also be free from crow oaths because they're tilk death and he died as a crow, once redirected he's all good to be a stark once more.

So Jon leads along with Sansa and Rickon. The other boy connects to treeweb and time travels and we see tower of joy scene. I hope they don't fuck with the timeline shit like it was done in original Heroes TV series.

Meanwhile, Khaleesi is captured by the Khals and taken to Jhal city, dragon probably sniffs trouble and rescues her, seeing dragon in action, all Khals submit to Khaleesi and she has an army once more.

Meanwhile Tyrion tries to rule but the people are sheep so liberators become conquerors, looking at this ungratefulness, Khaleesi finally decided to fuck this shit and travels to westeros with the ironborn fleet.


Meanwhile in King's landing. Lannistor Queen keeps fucking shit up and lannistor power keeps dwindling and probably there is the lannistor and fanatic conflict.

Lannistors are also seiging riverun, but yea with all the fuck ups they're spread thing and shit probably goes south for them.


Meanwhile, after the battle of the bastards in da North is settled, Lannistor power dwindling, and Khaleesi having a boat trip, hopefully we see some tities too, its been a while, the shit really hits the fan and the white walkers break through the North and the wall crumbles or vice versa. At that time, HBO gives a big fuck you to everyone and ends the season with all elements in place for the next two seasons to be about the white walkers.

By that time, the book is released and everyone goes afk for 3 days.

Then in next two seasons, you have the great night army vs the human realm, things keep going south, but there is hope as Khaleesi and Jon Snow marry and we see more titties. Shit really goes south but there is hope in spring and so the realm fights back and wins. Jon becomes King, Khaleesi becomes Queen, Tyrion is hand of the king. Littlefinger alligns with the winning side but probably gets killed by that assassin in training Stark. Sansa, having getting short end of the stick probably finds the right man in some house and marries and also probably solidifies the alliance of some house for ice and fire throne regime.

While Hodor gets hit on the head again and can speak once more.

[Samus]

 

Yes I agree with Shahenshah,,sansa cant rally north atleast not alone she completely lacks the military expertise and boltons wont give-north without a fight.It would either be jon rallying north or he and sansa rallying together in name of rickon.The role of sansa will be of espionage.Jon cant do much at wall either and if he stays at wall how will his true parentage come to light.The only person alive who knows jons true parentage is Howland reed father of meera and jojen reed lord of greywater watch.The only way I see jon getting in touch with him is if he rallies north and go greywater watch asking support since reeds are considered as staunch supporters of starks.
Jon is going south of wall for sure now how much south he goes is to be seen will he go all the way to iron throne??

Rickon is hiding amongst the northern houses, he's too young to rally anyone. North never forgets as they say, northern houses bide their time, looking for a rallying cause. Jon was legitimised by KingindaNorth so Jon is a rightful hier too, he will also be free from crow oaths because they're tilk death and he died as a crow, once redirected he's all good to be a stark once more.

So Jon leads along with Sansa and Rickon. The other boy connects to treeweb and time travels and we see tower of joy scene. I hope they don't fuck with the timeline shit like it was done in original Heroes TV series.

Meanwhile, Khaleesi is captured by the Khals and taken to Jhal city, dragon probably sniffs trouble and rescues her, seeing dragon in action, all Khals submit to Khaleesi and she has an army once more.

Meanwhile Tyrion tries to rule but the people are sheep so liberators become conquerors, looking at this ungratefulness, Khaleesi finally decided to fuck this shit and travels to westeros with the ironborn fleet.


Meanwhile in King's landing. Lannistor Queen keeps fucking shit up and lannistor power keeps dwindling and probably there is the lannistor and fanatic conflict.

Lannistors are also seiging riverun, but yea with all the fuck ups they're spread thing and shit probably goes south for them.


Meanwhile, after the battle of the bastards in da North is settled, Lannistor power dwindling, and Khaleesi having a boat trip, hopefully we see some tities too, its been a while, the shit really hits the fan and the white walkers break through the North and the wall crumbles or vice versa. At that time, HBO gives a big fuck you to everyone and ends the season with all elements in place for the next two seasons to be about the white walkers.

By that time, the book is released and everyone goes afk for 3 days.

Then in next two seasons, you have the great night army vs the human realm, things keep going south, but there is hope as Khaleesi and Jon Snow marry and we see more titties. Shit really goes south but there is hope in spring and so the realm fights back and wins. Jon becomes King, Khaleesi becomes Queen, Tyrion is hand of the king. Littlefinger alligns with the winning side but probably gets killed by that assassin in training Stark. Sansa, having getting short end of the stick probably finds the right man in some house and marries and also probably solidifies the alliance of some house for ice and fire throne regime.

While Hodor gets hit on the head again and can speak once more.

 

wtf that was brilliant!!

 

'battle of the bastards' lmao

[TheDoom]

anyone else got any more theories to share?!

Well there are many theories out there apart from the R+J theory here are the few ones which I think will hold true.

 

1)Jamie will kill Cerise

Valonqar' or the 'Little Brother' in Maggy the frog's prophecy is not Tyrion but Jamie.Even though they are twins but Jamie was born a few moments later.My guess is now that Cerise has been stripped of her powers she will try to make a comeback in which she will fail miserably and after that will go mad kings way. She will go insane and will try to  burn the entire city to the ground or something similar.Jamie would be pushed in same situation when he killed Aerys and would eventually kill Cerise.It would also fit perfectly in the Jamies redemption's arc.

 

2)Sansa will kill little finger

"I dreamt of a maid at a feast with purple serpents in her hair, venom dripping from her fangs. And later I dreamt of that same maid again, slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow."

Now this one is pretty straight forward,this maid is sansa,venom dripping from fangs referring to venom that killed joffery.Now this same maid will kill a Giant in a castle made of snow. Littlefingers family sigil is Titan of Bravoos,a Giant !!! A castle made of snow,Winterfell maybe?? The women who prophesied  this also prophesied death of Robb which came to pass,so I m pretty sure this one will hold true as well.

 

3)Varys is a Blackfyre

Well this has not been shown on TV till now and maybe they wont tell the blackfyre arc at all in shows.But in books its pretty clear that Varys is a Blackfyre,thats why he shave his head to hide his silvery targaryen hairs.Moreover,only kings blood has power and Varys private parts were used for performance of blood magic so he must have kings blood.A blackfyre.

 

4)Jon will ride Rhaegal and Tyrion will ride Viserion

I m not 100% sold on this one but I think there is a good chance that Tyrion will become Viserion's rider,as Viserion's scales are cream, but his horns, wing bones and spinal crest are gold colored,and Tyrion being lannister the golden lion sigil so it hints that Tyrion will ride it.

Rhaegal being named after Rhaegar Targaryen, Jons father so it is only logical to think jon will ride him.Jon riding Rhaegal might also indicate that Jon and Dany will eventually end up fighting.As in the original Dance of Dragon Blacks were pitted against Greens,if Drogon symbolize the new Black faction and Dany rides him, it follows that Rhaegal would represent the Greens and be ridden by an enemy.As I said not sold on this one completely but it is plausible.

[Shahenshah]

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[Fermion]

Tbh I want Jon to fight Dany. She is a self righteous conqueror and in many ways, Jon's story is a spoil to hers. A fight between them is inevitable, imo.

[Mandarijn]

Tbh I want Jon to fight Dany. She is a self righteous conqueror and in many ways, Jon's story is a spoil to hers. A fight between them is inevitable, imo.

It could happen and afterwards they make love and marry.

[Lysistrata]

Jon Snow's father was Dany's brother, Rhaegar. It wouldn't be the first time first cousins do the big nasty, and it never stopped the two Lannister's we know so well, but I don't think that will happen. I guess it could, but I think Jon and Dany are the whole Fire and Ice thing, and it would be just weird for the whole premise of the story to end with incest.

[Shahenshah]

[Lysistrata]

Thanks Shah, the UK people are the most amazing filmmakers.

[Samus]

Thanks Shah, the UK people are the most amazing filmmakers.

<3

[Lysistrata]