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[d3mon]

If tW is scum and lynched, it would be 5 v 2 next morning and we would have enough time/information to easily take the game home.

[Rafay]

On N1 Mand visited Kev

 

On N2 Imran was visited by TheDoom, Mand, COD 

[Sister Midnight]

On N1 Mand visited Kev

 

On N2 Imran was visited by TheDoom, Mand, COD 

Huh?  What does that mean?  You know this how?

Per the rules, nobody can change their vote once the lynch has been reached.  We're waiting for Robert2424 to announce the end of the day so we can go into the Night phase.

 

D3mon, can you commute tonight?

 

Fermion, make your own choice but it's bad form to announce it because the scum might have some sort of protective ability.

But he hasn't been lynched.  What do you mean once the lynch has been reached?  And, like I said, I have not plans to change my vote, Kev, but it seems you are telling me I can't change it even if I do want to.  If night hasn't come, why couldn't I change my vote?  I think you're all making this up as you go along - very scummy. 

 

Continue to vote Keven H

[KevinH]

He's the Watcher. 

 

Chaplain of Death, can you confirm you visited Imran Night 2? And what's your role, anyway?

He's the Watcher. 

 

Chaplain of Death, can you confirm you visited Imran Night 2? And what's your role, anyway?

[KevinH]

2. ... A majority of votes is required to lynch before deadline.Unless the game proves inactive, and the rule will change to whoever has the most votes.

 
Also from http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lynch:

"Once a player receives a majority vote, that player is typically killed at the earliest opportunity the moderator gets. Upon death, the moderator will reveal the deceased player's role and alignment (unless the game mechanics say otherwise). Afterward, the game will proceed to Night."
 

[Rafay]

Huh?  What does that mean?  You know this how?

 

I watched Mand and Imran during night t see who visited them. 

 

These ppl visited them. 

[Robert2424]

THIS GAME IS UNDER REVIEW AND NOW ON PAUSE AS IVE BEEN ALEARTED OF EVERYONE CLIAMING. WARNINGS MAY BE SENT OUT AS I DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH YOU ALL.

[KevinH]

I don't see a problem.

 

8. Role Claiming is allowed. Mass role claiming is not. Work for your win you slackers.

 

See http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleclaim

 

Imran claimed when he had results to report.

 

I claimed when I was in line to be lynched.

 

Rafay claimed when I outed him.

 

It's Day 3 and several people are already dead; what exactly were you expecting?

[Imran Ehsan]

Lol

[Imran Ehsan]

I wouldn't recommend trying to kill me if tW was found scum, a tracker investigation on both me and SM should be enough to find if one of us is scum or not. If neither of us performs an action in the night, we can conclude that iSoc is scum.

Why wouldnt you recommend it?

Scum need only 1 person to do the kill not 2. So even if you are tracked and the result is you did no action, that doesn't prove that you are not scum.

Agreed but there would be just 2 scum left and one has to do the action. If neither of the two investigated makes an action then the third must be the one who did the kill. I don't see a need to force my hand into making an action or take a action that increases the probability of town loss when there is just a simple mathematical elimination that can be done to ensure town wins.

Also, as I mentioned, I have a limited number of actions, so I would much rather keep the option open to use the ability of not.

Doesn't look like a very valid reason. You are probably scum who got caught lying about your role.

[Robert2424]

I don't see a problem.
 

8. Role Claiming is allowed. Mass role claiming is not. Work for your win you slackers.

 
See http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleclaim
 
Imran claimed when he had results to report.
 
I claimed when I was in line to be lynched.
 
Rafay claimed when I outed him.
 
It's Day 3 and several people are already dead; what exactly were you expecting?

I'm getting conflicting reports. I'm reviewing this when I get home in 2 hours.

[Chaplain of death]

It was getting to be a bit much. Most people had alright reasons for claiming but between Imran, KevinH, Fermion, Rafay, and D3mon over half the people alive have now role claimed? Everyone except d3mon had valid reason to.

The suspicion around d3mon had nothing to do with his role.

Though the same is true of Kevin, his claim brought out information that could prove him innocent, where d3mons did not.

Rafay was forced to claim to provide legitamacy to Kevin's.

Personally i wouldn't consider it mass role claim since we didn't just say 1 2 ready claim or some shit, but we were getting close. (Part of the reason i wasnt going to full role claim, though my role should be obvious based on Rafays results)


And fermions claim was because of suspicions built on his role because of Imrans results.

[Imran Ehsan]

It was getting to be a bit much. Most people had alright reasons for claiming but between Imran, KevinH, Fermion, Rafay, and D3mon over half the people alive have now role claimed? Everyone except d3mon had valid reason to.

The suspicion around d3mon had nothing to do with his role.

Though the same is true of Kevin, his claim brought out information that could prove him innocent, where d3mons did not.

Rafay was forced to claim to provide legitamacy to Kevin's.

Personally i wouldn't consider it mass role claim since we didn't just say 1 2 ready claim or some shit, but we were getting close. (Part of the reason i wasnt going to full role claim, though my role should be obvious based on Rafays results)


And fermions claim was because of suspicions built on his role because of Imrans results.

 

Its Day 3. Of course by now most role will be known. You should have played the last game where everyone was role claiming left and right and everyone had their roles known by Day 3 or so. The scum had to come up with fake roles to even survive that game.

 

This game is much better. We still dont know the roles of you, SM and iSocialism.

[Chaplain of death]

Or tw until hes actually lynched

[d3mon]

 

 

 

I wouldn't recommend trying to kill me if tW was found scum, a tracker investigation on both me and SM should be enough to find if one of us is scum or not. If neither of us performs an action in the night, we can conclude that iSoc is scum.

Why wouldnt you recommend it?

Scum need only 1 person to do the kill not 2. So even if you are tracked and the result is you did no action, that doesn't prove that you are not scum.

Agreed but there would be just 2 scum left and one has to do the action. If neither of the two investigated makes an action then the third must be the one who did the kill. I don't see a need to force my hand into making an action or take a action that increases the probability of town loss when there is just a simple mathematical elimination that can be done to ensure town wins.

Also, as I mentioned, I have a limited number of actions, so I would much rather keep the option open to use the ability of not.

Doesn't look like a very valid reason. You are probably scum who got caught lying about your role.

 

 

Aren't you the scum looking to get easy kills.. oh well.. with all the investigative roles someone was bound to be scum and here we have it...

[Imran Ehsan]

If you can commute at night, why are you so worried?

[Imran Ehsan]

On N1 Mand visited Kev

 

On N2 Imran was visited by TheDoom, Mand, COD 

 

 

 

Huh?  What does that mean?  You know this how?

 

I watched Mand and Imran during night t see who visited them. 

 

These ppl visited them. 

 

 

This does not add up by the way. N2 is fine but N1 is not.

As it seems like Rafay is lying, lets take a look back at one of my scenarios.

 

Lets say Rafay's scummy behavior is not a warped playstyle but actually indication of scum who actually is not a Watcher. A scum Watcher can easily reveal his results. There is no reason to hide them. However, Rafay may be a JOAT who used his Watch action on N2. He does not want to reveal his results because he didnt watch anyone on N1 and therefore cant provide concrete evidence. So this is the only scenario that fits with a scum Rafay.

[KevinH]

 

On N1 Mand visited Kev
On N2 Imran was visited by TheDoom, Mand, COD

 
This does not add up by the way. N2 is fine but N1 is not.

 

 

It could add up, but there's no way to prove it.

Mandarijn could easily have visted me, or Rafay could easily be lying about it.

[Imran Ehsan]

 

 

On N1 Mand visited Kev
On N2 Imran was visited by TheDoom, Mand, COD

 
This does not add up by the way. N2 is fine but N1 is not.

 

 

It could add up, but there's no way to prove it.

Mandarijn could easily have visted me, or Rafay could easily be lying about it.

 

 

He said he watched Mandarijn. A watcher is not a tracker or follower.

[d3mon]

If you can commute at night, why are you so worried?

 

As I indicated the ability has a limited number of shots. I would much rather use it when its most needed. Also, even if I were to survive the kill, it doesn't prove anything as a scum roleblocker could've easily just blocked Fermion's action.

If I were to use my ability, I would much rather have my townliness proved and I see the tracker strategy working a whole lot better than this one.