First one of the wagons was a town player, the second was on a player that we still don't know. My vote at the time was a unknown player. It was base on his tactic of discrediting everyone and pushing hard for lynches. Wasn't out of the blue as you may like to think of it.
The second one, I'm going to let you rephrase it. Because, in my book, calling someone a cop is not a scummy move. As I remember other people were already hinting at it, and he already made a statement along the lines. If I was scum, I wouldn't shout out a town role before it was know to everyone else. I would wait for the night and tell my buds. I also wouldn't shout it out if I was town either. You may want to look back, or this one, and start finding other post by me to find things you want to turn into skewed reasoning. Because the one you got right now ain't enough. This isn't a call out, I mean no hostilities, but I wouldn't even support someone, who was accusing you of this.
I don't want to throw baseless accusation, that's why I've said "I can't remember now but I'll check it". I've checked it now and there's nothing that would mark you as a scum in that particular case of KH's presumed cop role.
Anyway your (and our by extension) problem is that you don't care about the town. You've just taken the spot and are sliding through the game, which is very lazy and destructive for the town (in one word "scummy"). I'd really like to lynch you just for that.
That being said I've feeling you're just a town that don't care. It's just a feeling and it's based on this: http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-4/page-18#entry852586 Specifically that second last sentence.
Now to Mandarjin post - great to see those bandwagon pictures putted together. My thoughts are as follow:
Rhizo - It's no contest for me. His actions are scummier with every passing day. I'd be extremely surprised should he turn out town.
Canik - Still don't know, but if Rhizo turns out scum, Canik will be likely to be a town.
iSoc - I've feeling he's town, but honestly speaking he's been useless for the town. Also if Roq is a scum then iSoc can't be.
AbT - If I were a scum and Rhizo were a scum I wouldn't push for lynching him. If I were a scum and Rhizo was town I'd not push so hard and put myself in the spotlight (I wouldn't really give a f... who get's lynched: d3mon or Rhizo). If that's not enough for you, then if Rhizo turns out to be a scum then I think it'll be enough proof I'm a town.
Avater - Might be a scum based on his actions on D2. He was much better target to go for instead of Kazio or d3mon on previous days.
Finster - He just agrees for the entire game with this or that guy to have an excuse for jumping on the wagon. But maybe that's how he plays.
KevinH - meh
Lyner - shady person 
, but I think he's townie due to D2 voting. It looked like scums didn't want to hammer the vote due to being in comfortable position with 2 townies being accused (this changed on D3 as we've seen).
Mandarjin - nothing to add
Rafay - always scummy, useless for the town. I can't really grasp why he's allowed to live past D1 . I'll probably jump on a bandwagon if he's voted.
Robert - you can just guess who he is, though we've already used up our wild guess chances.
Roq - Scum in my book after D3. He had a chance to change game on D3 but didn't took the effort to even consider it. Confirmed scum after his last post, where he explains that he'll go after Mandarjins choice for iSoc because it's safer than lynching Rhizo (which ironically is contrary to what Mandarjin's said in his last post). Safer for whom? Not for town, I dare to say. Lynching him will somewhat prove iSoc innocence.
Yehom - Made some very weird arguments on why he think lynching d3mon is better than lynching Rhizo. Hasn't been much of use to the town.
My course of action would be to:
- Lynch Rhizo today.
- Lynch Roq tomorrow.
- In the meantime press Finster, Rafay and Yehom to the wall. Press them hard even forcing them to role claim. They can all be cops or doctors for all I care. Did they save anyone so far? Have they used their knowledge for the benefit of the town? NOPE.
It's D4 so if they've not told us or did anything useful why expect them to do it on N4/N5 (if we live that long)? We're in a critical moment where a misstep will result in a lost game. That means we are in dire need to confirm townies and hiding roles at any price does not help.
We need to get as much data as possible about those 3. They've been no help to the town and I want to squeeze all the information from them we can get, so that we can safely lynch them when we catch them on lying, or confirm as town and move onto the yellow guys.
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