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[Sister Midnight]

 
 
Have to end post now...trying not to post novels anymore

*Speaking strictly as Sister Midnight, and not relevant to the game, I just have to say that this one self-realization and resulting decision to change behaviors on Rhizo's part struck me as so sexy that I had to take a moment to compose myself and cool down. I don't know why Rhizo effects me like this, it alarms me slightly. Now back to playing Mafia.*

Right, this is only me second full game, but I understand both sides of the argument on a first day vote, and my problem with a no vote is it just effectively makes the first day longer with no additional evidence about anyone, so no vote seems ultimately pointless... Unless there are night actions taken at the end of day, which will result in at least one murder, and whatever investigators uncover, in which case not voting does make some sense. Can someone refresh me on what happens on the night of a no vote, and also has anyone seen me frog? Cheerio.

[Wolfpacks]

I saw your Frog but he hopped it, while I was walking through the the woods I stubbed my toe and shouted owwwww and this fluffy flying thing came to me

[iSocialism]

I bet Samus is scum, and no one wants to lynch him earlier because we don't want to see him R2V it again. In case no one know, R2Ving it, is rage quitting because people go after you. To Sammy credit though, it because people fear him and his name is well recognized. R2V on the other hand just talked to much and nobody wanted to put up with his shit, and he was an easy target, just like in CN.

[SeaBeeGipson]

 
 
Have to end post now...trying not to post novels anymore

*Speaking strictly as Sister Midnight, and not relevant to the game, I just have to say that this one self-realization and resulting decision to change behaviors on Rhizo's part struck me as so sexy that I had to take a moment to compose myself and cool down. I don't know why Rhizo effects me like this, it alarms me slightly. Now back to playing Mafia.*
Right, this is only me second full game, but I understand both sides of the argument on a first day vote, and my problem with a no vote is it just effectively makes the first day longer with no additional evidence about anyone, so no vote seems ultimately pointless... Unless there are night actions taken at the end of day, which will result in at least one murder, and whatever investigators uncover, in which case not voting does make some sense. Can someone refresh me on what happens on the night of a no vote, and also has anyone seen me frog? Cheerio.

In the event of a no lynch, the town kills no one. Scum still get to kill a townie. So basically, we are going to be down 1 townie instead of gambling on being down 2 townies or 1scum/1town, which I have yet to see the latter.

We could, like in my past 2 games, lynch someone D1. However, it seems to backfire. It provides little to no relevant information. It doesn't provide much information regarding voting patterns because it's D1. Scum doesn't really have to try to form a wagon this early, they kind of just form themselves. Least that's my perception from past games (someone correct me if I'm wrong.) You more likely would just have a lynch wagon full of townies on D1.

I do believe if we lynch, it has to be someone that could provide information (whether town or scum.) With the amount of joke posts, HP references, and absolutely no information on anyone in my opinion, I think D1 on this game should be no lynch. We just wouldn't gather anything from it. Back to my original statement a few posts ago, we gain more information by analyzing who the scum targets.

We can't just randomly vote for people, but we need to start pushing buttons. Testing people now, questioning their motives, their reasoning. By doing this, we at least would have some reactions to go off of. The only problem would be if scum is setting up someone with a kill or genuinely kill someone for raising too many questions.

- Rhizo - no more walls?? Trump would be disappointed.

-AbT- judging by the roles that exist in the game from TW'S first post, I'd guess around 5. He lists a lot of Mafia roles, so I'd imagine a Mafia heavy game. Can someone figure out the math on what would be most likely?

[Finster Baby]

Also we don't really know what's happening to Mazuurek - all we know he's not around. Maybe he's lost his ticket, or maybe he somehow turned out to be a muggle and was expelled.
 
Ultimately if he does not show up it's better to get a replacement than to cross him over (we have it just for such occasions don't we?). Out of those 4 I'd rather go with the ones that are known to be liability.

Or perhaps Dobby is blocking platform 9 3/4 on him.

Oh wait wrong book.

I have nothing to go on right now, and a no lynch on D1 in the Cybernations game seemed to help the town *grumble,* I would go this route.

VOTE: NO LYNCH

[Sister Midnight]

UNVOTE

VOTE NO LYNCH

[Samus]

Not posting just means I have nothing to go off on. Though My vote still stands for Shamus

you and your scum buddies lynched me on D1.

 

The North remembers..

 

I mean Gryffindor remembers.

I bet Samus is scum, and no one wants to lynch him earlier because we don't want to see him R2V it again. In case no one know, R2Ving it, is rage quitting because people go after you. To Sammy credit though, it because people fear him and his name is well recognized. R2V on the other hand just talked to much and nobody wanted to put up with his shit, and he was an easy target, just like in CN.

tbh I didn't really R2V.

 

You'd have to be apart of a game or an alliance to R2V. I was killed, so I was out of the game, couldn't even R2V if I wanted to, silly muggle

[Lyner]

Right, this is only me second full game, but I understand both sides of the argument on a first day vote, and my problem with a no vote is it just effectively makes the first day longer with no additional evidence about anyone, so no vote seems ultimately pointless... Unless there are night actions taken at the end of day, which will result in at least one murder, and whatever investigators uncover, in which case not voting does make some sense.

 

Well, theoretically, we have additional evidences such as people's post habit, their position regarding this day one no vote/vote, and consistency to be analysed for later days. How much their behaviour changed after getting a night information in the day 2 can be used to make some assumptions.

 

Practically, however, it is rare to see players go through that much effort

 

 

 

Therefore, unless we spotted someone without a nose it is better to hang the lurkers, especially if they are experienced players(Rafay and iSoc lurked through the last game and turned out to be scums).

 

iSoc started posting again, so let's lynch some Rafay

 

Vote: Rafay

[Ali bin Turban]

Good we starting to have some serious conversation. The worse thing we can do on D1 is to vote inactive (don't mistake it with lurker) or vote no lynch without any effort put into discussion. In previous TW's game we didn't get to much out of our night actions. I can hope it changes now, but surely it won't substitute good old witch hunt (though I'm keeping in mind last game's f...up ).

 

My stance as usually is to take out lurkers quickly before they became a liability to us. They're always obfuscating the view (you never know whether that lurker is a town or a scum) and thus helping scum to hide. This is especially dangerous during the endgame when you're not allowed to make any more mistakes (and thus it's imperative to get as many confirmed townies as possible).

D1 is ideal to make some cleaning, because we don't have other trails to follow. Yes I realize it's still a gamble: lurker or not - it's only 25% chance (even though in previous games we'd have killed 2 scums this way on D1, I still consider it nothing more than a lucky shot), but honestly - for me it goes beyond that.

I just hope that in a few games of enforcing "replace inactives and kill lurkers immediately" rule we'll have better activity ratio as lurking strategy will finally turn out to be ineffective.

 

 

 

iSoc started posting again, so let's lynch some Rafay

 

Vote: Rafay

 

That's really no indication. Remember Rafay in previous game? When I prodded him with lynch vote (just as I'm doing now) he suddenly become active but returned to lurking as soon as he felt safe again.

 

 

-AbT- judging by the roles that exist in the game from TW'S first post, I'd guess around 5. He lists a lot of Mafia roles, so I'd imagine a Mafia heavy game. Can someone figure out the math on what would be most likely?

 

 

I'm fairly sure that's not the case. 5/15 is 33% ratio which is almost guaranteed mafia win (you need to make 5 successful lynches and are allowed to make just 2 mistakes). 4/15 requires 4 successes / with 3 misses allowed, while 3/15  is 3 successes / 4 misses allowed. So it's either 3 or 4 (balanced with more powerful roles on scum/town side).

[Ali bin Turban]

Oh lol...after reading KH's post I've took a look at the possible roles list again. We got Framer listed as one of possible roles. It wasn't there in the first TW's game, so I guess he's fallen in love with KevinH's concept of messing with our heads .

[KevinH]

Trust no one.

[Wolfpacks]

Especially KevinH

[The Warrior]

"And finally, I must tell you that this year, the third-floor corridor on the right-hand side is out of bounds to everyone who does not wish to die a very painful death."

 

Vote Count

 

Chaplain of Death (2): Myrrdin Emrys, legoboyvdlp

Rafay (2): Ali bin Turban, Lyner

Finster Baby (1): Rafay

King Hitler (1): Chaplain of Death

Mazuurek (1): Samus

Samus (1): iSocialism

Wolfpacks (1): Mazuurek

Ali bin Turban (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

legoboyvdlp (0):

Lyner (0):

Myrrdin Emrys (0): 

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

 

No Lynch (4): KevinH, King Hitler, Finster Baby, Sister Midnight

Not voting: Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 11:00am CST on Thursday, June 23rd.

[Lyner]

 

That's really no indication. Remember Rafay in previous game? When I prodded him with lynch vote (just as I'm doing now) he suddenly become active but returned to lurking as soon as he felt safe again.

 

Alas I can only vote one person at a time, Rafay is more inactive than iSoc atm, he is more 'liable' if we're using your term correctly   

 

 

 

 

 

We only have a few days left, those who are still undecided should make his stance clear

[Wolfpacks]

Vote no lynch

[The Warrior]

"We could all have been killed -- or worse, expelled."

 

Vote Count

 

Chaplain of Death (2): Myrrdin Emrys, legoboyvdlp

Rafay (2): Ali bin Turban, Lyner

Finster Baby (1): Rafay

King Hitler (1): Chaplain of Death

Mazuurek (1): Samus

Samus (1): iSocialism

Wolfpacks (1): Mazuurek

Ali bin Turban (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

legoboyvdlp (0):

Lyner (0):

Myrrdin Emrys (0): 

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

 

No Lynch (5): KevinH, King Hitler, Finster Baby, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

Not voting: Rhizoctonia

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 11:00am CST on Thursday, June 23rd.

[KevinH]

"When his wand’s oak and hers is holly, then to marry would be folly..."

[Sister Midnight]

If the majority stays no lynch by Dthe dadline, 11:00am CST on Thursday, June 23, does that mean there will be a no lynch and we go into night?

Sniff, sniff *wipes eyes*

[The Warrior]

"I thought you weren't speaking to us?" said Harry.
"Yes, don't stop now," said Ron, "it's doing us so much good."

 

 

'No Lynch' has received the half-majority of votes needed by deadline for a no-lynch to occur.

[Wolfpacks]

Ahhh night I come more alive at night, like a vampire but with bigger teeth