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[D34THBR1NG3R]

D34th has stayed off my radar after suspecting him early on, but this has drawn my attention back to him.  This type of phrased reply is something I've used before as a scum when heat started going my way...the old "vote me and see you're wrong" type comments. 

Difference is, 'm actually serious. If he believes what he says and others believe him then pleasevote me up.  

[Chaplain of death]

 

D34th has stayed off my radar after suspecting him early on, but this has drawn my attention back to him.  This type of phrased reply is something I've used before as a scum when heat started going my way...the old "vote me and see you're wrong" type comments. 

Difference is, 'm actually serious. If he believes what he says and others believe him then pleasevote me up.  

 

 

Personally I'd rather lynch d34th because just as Rhizo says, comments like that are usually scum bluffing and trying to get you to back down by simultaneously accusing any town players who are suspicious of you of being stupid/brain dead, and making a form of "defense". 

 

However I don't really see the flaw in the logic Ali presents so I'll go with the iSoc lynch. 

 

Vote iSoc

[Sister Midnight]

Wait, what? Last time I was on I was getting called out for bandwagoning, EVERYONE thought me scum, and it looked like either Ali or I was about to be lynched, probably Ali and then me, unless I could prove my towniness. I figured ali was scum because of the unhelpful label and that is why he got my vote. I also hoped that when he turned out to be scum, I'd be exonerated (although we've seen early bandwagon on scum by another scum with disastrous outcome on the scum, who didn't anticipate a quick bandwagon). I was convinced ALI is pretty cut and dried scum and everyone would also see it.

ALI has claimed he's a Framer??? I looked it up and that is allied with scum. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Framer So now ALI is defending me and I don't know why. And everybody is jumping on Isoc, who I think looks less scummy than Yehom, who has not been investigated as unhelpful and hasn't rc framer, therefore he looks less scummy than ALI. WTF are you all thinking? Seriously.

Ps: no puke, but I'm not well, so if I'm missing something that might be why. But I seriously don't understand what is going on.

[iSocialism]

Most of the time scums are happy with whomever they can sink their teeth into. Hence jumping around.

[Chaplain of death]

Wait, what? Last time I was on I was getting called out for bandwagoning, EVERYONE thought me scum, and it looked like either Ali or I was about to be lynched, probably Ali and then me, unless I could prove my towniness. I figured ali was scum because of the unhelpful label and that is why he got my vote. I also hoped that when he turned out to be scum, I'd be exonerated (although we've seen early bandwagon on scum by another scum with disastrous outcome on the scum, who didn't anticipate a quick bandwagon). I was convinced ALI is pretty cut and dried scum and everyone would also see it.

ALI has claimed he's a Framer??? I looked it up and that is allied with scum. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Framer So now ALI is defending me and I don't know why. And everybody is jumping on Isoc, who I think looks less scummy than Yehom, who has not been investigated as unhelpful and hasn't rc framer, therefore he looks less scummy than ALI. WTF are you all thinking? Seriously.

Ps: no puke, but I'm not well, so if I'm missing something that might be why. But I seriously don't understand what is going on.

 

 

So did you just misread everything or are you actively trying to sell that misinformation to us? Ali never claimed to be a Mafia Framer. Ali claimed that the investigation results were altered by a Mafia framer.

[Mandarijn]

Do you really think that I would be so stupid that I would be 'defending'/following Ali like this if I was scum? Please... Even if he was my scum buddy I would just vote him off to take away suspicion from myself.

 

But it's good to see now SBG also giving the same scum list as Yehom and iSoc. That's 3 confirmed scums for me, with D34th (or KevinH as a GF) as the 4th. Yehom is the only one of our scum list not yet on Ali's wagon, interesting!

 

@Sister Midnight: Ali didn't RC Framer, he said that there's a Framer in the scum team and that he got framed. You are aware that you're on the same wagon with the people who suspect you and that their next victim will be you (or me)... So with lynching Ali, you're not helping yourself (or the town) at all.

[Sister Midnight]

Do you really think that I would be so stupid that I would be 'defending'/following Ali like this if I was scum? Please... Even if he was my scum buddy I would just vote him off to take away suspicion from myself.
 
But it's good to see now SBG also giving the same scum list as Yehom and iSoc. That's 3 confirmed scums for me, with D34th (or KevinH as a GF) as the 4th. Yehom is the only one of our scum list not yet on Ali's wagon, interesting!
 
@Sister Midnight: Ali didn't RC Framer, he said that there's a Framer in the scum team and that he got framed. You are aware that you're on the same wagon with the people who suspect you and that their next victim will be you (or me)... So with lynching Ali, you're not helping yourself (or the town) at all.

I misread.

Unvote
I will prolly be lynched pretty soon, at this point my best suspect is Yehom.

VOTE YEHOM

[The Warrior]

"Ah, of course, there is no need to say any more, Miss Granger. Tell me, which of you will be dying this year?"

 

Vote Count

 

Ali bin Turban (3): King Hitler, D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism

iSocialism (3): Ali bin Turban, Mandarijn, Chaplain of Death

Yehom (1): Sister Midnight

Chaplain of Death (0):

D34THBR1NG3R (0):

KevinH (0):

King Hitler (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):
 

Not Voting: KevinH, Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks, Yehom

 

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Tuesday, November 8th.

[SeaBeeGipson]

2 wagons at the full vote and SM takes her vote off to start a new one? Just as you began to look townie, you make another scum move.

[Ali bin Turban]

Mandarijn. Why are you so buddy buddy with AbT all of a sudden? Then you throw accusations at Yehom, Isoc, and D43th. Are you trying to find a target that you can draw the attention away from AbT? Are you trying to egg people on yo make them look scummier than they are? Interesting to how you are trying to force a 4th suspect from people when he have yet to even lynch 1 scum. Why should a full list matter at this stage? We should focus on getting some scum and using what we find later on to get the full list. It seems like you are trying to force an argument here. Definitely coming off as scum behavior to me.


My list?
AbT
SM (given AbT's defense towards her. It could be scum trying to take a townie down with him tomorrow. I still have my suspicion of her but lets see what tonight brings.)
Mandarijn
(Figure the 4th out later) could be Yehom, could be Isoc.

How much more illogical can you be? You say Mandarijn is a scum because he's trying to accuse Yehom, Isoc, Death ... and also because he forces Yehom to show his 4th suspect...and still you list Yehom as a possible scum.

[Ali bin Turban]

It's also funny how each of the scum are listing me along with the SM as a scum partners when:

 

1. I was trying to lynch her on D3

2. She jumped on me today when my fate was not decided (and I've started accusing her of being a scum).

 

Sure...I a world when everything is possible we could be making a string of setups...thing is you scums are not even trying to pretend you're considering different possibilities or thinking about outcomes/consequences. You just list names, hoping someone will buy it.

[Ali bin Turban]

 

Why would you want town to try and vote you off in our specific situation? This town makes you cringe, but are you not part of this very town? We've had townie players act extremely scummish and get lynched because of it, yes. But reacting this way is not going to help us any further. I know for a fact on Night 2 I did nothing, because I'm a VT. I do agree with the last part, somewhat. Some have been accusing people all game, but its amazing to watch the activity of certain players jump significantly after an investigation put AbT under the spotlight (Mandarijn).

 

He actually came back from inactivity 48h before Wolfpacks has shown his results.

 

 

I also find it interesting that Ali earlier called out Manda for being buddy buddy with him. He also said that it was suspect of me that I agreed with him on D3. Suddenly Manda is following Ali like puppy and Ali is fine with it as it seems

 

 

I'm fine with people I consider town, who are voting on people I consider scum. Is that strange for you or is it your half baked excuse for your inevitable jump on my wagon?

 

 

I
misread. Unvote I will prolly be lynched pretty soon, at this point my
best suspect is Yehom. VOTE YEHOM

 

Please pull your s** together girl and start participating (no offense, I hope you'll get well). You've been acting very scummy, but when almost everyone want's a piece of you (including all of my scum suspects) then it's a clear indication that you're not a scum but a town that's been making some fatal mistakes.

 

@KevinH please don't lurk.

 

@TW could you ping Wolfpacks? He's not been here for a quite a few days while he's active on the forums.

[Mandarijn]

@Wolfpacks and Rhizoctonia: We need your votes. As I believe you both are town, they will be very important!

 

@KevinH: You're being awfully quiet, if your town I'm sure the discussion should've at least let you reconsider your vote, no?

 

@Sister Midnight: I don't want to tell you on who to vote, but voting Yehom does absolutely nothing.

[Yehom]

I'm fine with people I consider town, who are voting on people I consider scum. Is that strange for you or is it your half baked excuse for your inevitable jump on my wagon?

I never intended to jump on your wagon, so where you got that idea from. You were the person I'd least suspect to be scum, but apparently Manda got to you somehow. 

[KevinH]

Here's what we know so far:

Follower.

 

Night 1: followed Lyner and he investigated
Night 2: followed Ali bin Turban and he didn't perform an action
Night 3: followed Wolfpacks and he investigated
 

Tracker

 
Night 1: tracked KevinH and saw nothing
Night 2: tracked SeaBeeGipson and saw nothing
Night 3: tracked Yehom and saw nothing
 
 

Cop

 

Night 1: investigated KevinH with result of Normal Hogwarts Student/Staff
Night 2: investigated Ali Bin Turban with result of Non-Helpful Hogwarts Student/Staff
Night 3: investigated Rhizo with result of Normal Hogwarts Student/Staff
 

I'll assume that nobody is lying about these things.
Maybe Ali bin Turban was framed, but there's only one way to find out.

Vote: Ali bin Turban
 

[Sister Midnight]

@Wolfpacks and Rhizoctonia: We need your votes. As I believe you both are town, they will be very important!
 
@KevinH: You're being awfully quiet, if your town I'm sure the discussion should've at least let you reconsider your vote, no?
 
@Sister Midnight: I don't want to tell you on who to vote, but voting Yehom does absolutely nothing.

UNVOTE

VOTE ALI

[The Warrior]

"We tried to shut Percy in a pyramid. But Mum spotted us."

 

Vote Count

 

Ali bin Turban (5): King Hitler, D34THBR1NG3R, iSocialism, KevinH, Sister Midnight

iSocialism (3): Ali bin Turban, Mandarijn, Chaplain of Death

Chaplain of Death (0):

D34THBR1NG3R (0):

KevinH (0):

King Hitler (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Sister Midnight (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):
 

Not Voting: Rhizoctonia, Wolfpacks, Yehom

 

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Tuesday, November 8th.

[SeaBeeGipson]

@Wolfpacks and Rhizoctonia: We need your votes. As I believe you both are town, they will be very important!
 
@KevinH: You're being awfully quiet, if your town I'm sure the discussion should've at least let you reconsider your vote, no?
 
@Sister Midnight: I don't want to tell you on who to vote, but voting Yehom does absolutely nothing.

UNVOTE
VOTE ALI

At this point, I'm lost with your way of thinking.

[The Warrior]

Deadline is scheduled to be tomorrow at 1:00pm CST but due to some personal things going on it may get moved.

[Ali bin Turban]

 

I'll assume that nobody is lying about these things.

Maybe Ali bin Turban was framed, but there's only one way to find out.

Vote: Ali bin Turban
 

There are many other ways to find out. One of them is lynching one of my targets, which will show they're scum.

 

 

@Wolfpacks and Rhizoctonia: We need your votes. As I believe you both are town, they will be very important!
 
@KevinH: You're being awfully quiet, if your town I'm sure the discussion should've at least let you reconsider your vote, no?
 
@Sister Midnight: I don't want to tell you on who to vote, but voting Yehom does absolutely nothing.

UNVOTE

VOTE ALI

 

That's a shame. This is the move that will cost town this game. You'll see for yourself, when tomorrow you'll end on the chopping block. Scum are already making their move (see SBG's comment).