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[KH-16] C9++ Mafia -- Town Wins

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Let's take a look at what we got here. We know for sure that there are 4 power townies min. 2 masons(me and lyner), and 1 vig(TW). We know there was a mafia Roleblocker (rafay) and either two goons or one goon one godfather. We know that isoc was a vanilla townie now. So unless everybody else is a power townies, there is no godfather. Meaning there is only one other power townie left. We have Ali claiming one shot cop. We have COD claiming regular cop (later claim).

We know both roles are possible via Kevin's first post.

We know mafia likely didn't submit a night action unless somebody wants to claim doc and tell us who they protected.

At this point everybody should role claim. Might makes easier, or more complicated. Either way, we can determine weather or no we have a godfather or not. We should take note when people have claimed. I may or may not of missed one. I'm away from my notes.

 

 

You've got that backward. No matter what at this point, there is a Godfather. 

 

T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather   <----- if AbT is a fake claim

0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather   <-------- if AbT is a legit claim



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I have no role to claim. I am a Vanilla Town.

I personally believe that AbT's RC is fake.
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Rafay (1): Finster Baby,
Kaziocore (1): Chaplain of Death,
Ali bin Turban (1): Robert2424,
Lyner (1): iSocialism,
Chaplain of Death
Finster Baby
iSocialism
Robert2424
SeaBeeGipson
The Warrior

 

No lynch:
Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Kaziocore, Lyner, Rafay, SeaBeeGipson, The Warrior

 
With 10 alive, it take 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, December 8, at 17:00 EST.
Your possible scum combinations:

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer 
TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer 
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer 
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer

that on setup you mentioned isn't possible.

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With finsters claim of VT. I believe we are dealing with only 2 goons now. Making on of the cop claims automatically a fake claim as both of them are impossible. With no godfather pretty much confirmed.

COD late role claim makes me nervous. I understand his reasoning but don't agree with it. However even though I'm more suspicious of Ali, I'll be basing my vote off of Kevin's response.

@Kevin, when rolling for the game, is it a different role entirely for a 1 shot cop? Or is there certain rules for the 1 shot cop role to appear? Like if another cop is role or x amount of other town roles?

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All of the setup information is available on the C9 webpage. The only thing Kevin changed is that he took the SK out and 2 VT's.

Therefore this is all of the possible setup's....

 

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather 

TTTTTT = Goon + Godfather

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather

TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker

TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker

TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

 

2 M's 2 V's and 2 C's (3 if Ali's claim is legit, but I seriously doubt it considering he went completely silent and it was already a long shot.) Therefore 6 out of 7 roles were not T. Therefore only the bottom 2 setups are possible. Notice they are the same, either way we have a roleblocker, a goon, and a godfather.

 

Please everyone take the time to read and understand this because I'm really sick and tired of repeating the obvious answers that are available to anyone who bothers to take the time to look, and then arguing about it with people who refuse to work it out for themselves.

 

 

As for how a 1-shot cop could come to be in the setup;

 

C = 1-Shot Cop

CC = Cop

CCC = Cop, 1-Shot Cop

CCCC = 2 Cops

CCCCC = 2 Cops, 1-Shot Cop

CCCCCC = 3 Cops

Cops are guaranteed to be sane.

 

I know my role is cop, which means that at least 2 C's were RNG'd. The only way that Ali's claim could be legit is Kevin Generated 3 C's which have a 15%* (I accidentally said 10% before, my mistake.) chance of being generated per role. That would also mean that in 7 attempts on the RNG, Kevin never once scored a 50 or below. Its already amazing if he only rolled 1, but 0? send that man to Vegas.

 

  • 1-50 = T (Townie. This actually directly influences scum powerroles.)
  • 51-65 = C (Cop)
  • 66-75 = D (Doctor)
  • 76-85 = V (Vigilante)
  • 86-95 = M (Mason)
  • 96-100 = B (Blocker)

 

All of the above information was taken directly from the C9++ wiki linked above.



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I quoted Kevin post from this game where he stated the 4 possible scum combos. There was only 4 he was considering.

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Ali bin Turban (2): SeaBeeGipson, Finster Baby,
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

No lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Robert2424, Ali bin Turban, Chaplain of Death,

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, January 5, at 15:00 EST.

Chaplain of Death said it right.
I made the rolls and generated the setup for the 13-player game.
The setup that was generated had a serial killer, which I removed.
I also took out 2 vanilla townies.
Then I randomly assigned the 10 players to the 10 roles in the modified setup.
 



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Kevin, you should be less confusing then.

With the info I have, I'll go with Ali. If Ali is town, I'll blame Kevin.

VOTE ALI

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Well here goes

 

Vote AbT



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Ali bin Turban (4): SeaBeeGipson, Finster Baby, Robert2424, Chaplain of Death,
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

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Not voting: Kaziocore, Ali bin Turban,

 

 

Ali bin Turban, Mafia Goon, has been lynched.

It is now Night 4.

Please send any actions to me by 11:00 EST Thursday, January 5.



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Kevin, you should be less confusing then.

 
How can I be less confusing?

 

The setup was randomly generated as specified for 13 players.  A serial killer and 2 vanilla townies were deleted.

 
 

Your possible scum combinations:

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer 
TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer 
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer 
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer

 



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Night 4 ends.
Nobody was killed in the night.

It is now Day 5.

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Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

No lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, SeaBeeGipson, Finster Baby, Robert2424, Chaplain of Death,

 
 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.
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Based on D4 non-vote, and N3 and N4 actions, or lack thereof, and the known inactivity...

VOTE: Kaziocore
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Vote Kazio

 

with ali gone, only one scum left, Kazio is most likely the last scum. Lets grab the win. 


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Vote Kazio

 

My results are irrelevant now since the last person is a godfather, but I investigated SBG and got town.



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Vote Kazio
 
My results are irrelevant now since the last person is a godfather, but I investigated SBG and got town.

Why did you investigate SBG 2 nights in a row?
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Vote Kazio My results are irrelevant now since the last person is a godfather, but I investigated SBG and got town.

Why did you investigate SBG 2 nights in a row?

I think he was just saying his suspicion was between myself and Kazio and he got town results on me. Not sure entirely.

Anyway, thats 4 for Kazio. Crossing fingers.

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We shall see if there's a godfather.

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Lynch happened on the 3rd vote.
 
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Kaziocore (3): Finster Baby, SeaBeeGipson, Robert2424,
Finster Baby (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

No lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Chaplain of Death,

 
 
Kaziocore, Mafia Godfather, has been lynched.

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