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[iSocialism]

Defense too what? Why I'm not scum?

Okay, I'm not scum. I promise. I'm just a VT. I had no results last night and submitted no actions. Now that my RC has been laid down that should mean votes should be off my back. I'll just wait here while everyone takes time to process my RC. After that I should be a free man. Man good thing my RC is soooo believable that people will not vote for me. If had something else I would have RC early but being a VT, is being a guy with no role pretty much. I would better off fake role claiming a PR than to come out as a VT.

[Finster Baby]

Well, if that's all we're getting...

VOTE: iSocialism

[SeaBeeGipson]

No defense isn't helping if your town Isoc. Ali already rc'd. A role claim from both you and SBG would be great.

Isocialism seems to have given up in his last post.
I already stated I was a VT (unless I worded it wrong, I think I mentioned it twice.)

@AbT I read back and seen where you mentioned Kazio as one of those on the rafay lynch and not largely of suspicion. My bad for missing that, but if you are a cop, did his inactivity not bring any suspicion to you?

I just find everything today to be too convient for comfort

[iSocialism]

Target a town, get nothing. Let scum slip while you chase an unicorn. If this is all the town has, to go after myself for defending Rafay. Then you ain't got much. But you're afraid to go after someone else. Everyone has slide under the radar, Robert is set on me. Nothing I can do about. AbT is scum, if he wasn't he would be grilling me right now. SBG wants to look like he's on the fence but he won't vote for AbT. Kazoo is inactive. COD is on holiday still, I believe, and FB can't vote for someone else. What else could I have? It's probably good cod and kazoo ain't here so that can't vote. It's the only hope town has this day.

What am I suppose to defend?
What I'm suppose to provide?
Answer these questions
Scratch the SBG on the fence. I confused FB voting for SBG

[Chaplain of death]

I'm fairly sure one of the claimed VTs is a scum (likely the godfather).

If the current role claims are all legit that would make kazio and i the scum. I think ive shown quite clearly that i am not, just personal opinion, which means that at least one of the standing role claims is fake, if not 2. For this reason I'm suspicious of iSoc because of his overall behavior, but im still very suspicious of AbT because of the convenience of his role claim.

vote AbT



My list from scumiest to towniest would be as follows:

AbT
iSoc
Kazio
SBG
Finster
Robert

Given the role claim with no counter from Robert, i have to believe he is town and that we just dove into a personal dispute rather than fighting because one was scum.

I believe FB is town as he was early on the Rafay wagon with me, though hes slightly above robert because the super early unprompted VT claim could be a godfather trying to blend in, and given rafays play style he could have sacrificed him to cement his ruse, however given how hard we had to push that wagon, i don't believe that is the case.

Kazio is inactive therefore he could be scum or town. The fact that he hasnt been replaced despite prods leads me to lean scum.

SBG also claimed VT, his behavior hasn't clearly defined him one way or the other in my opinion but that also makes him less scummy than kazio in my opinion.

iSoc defended a now known scum, could be coincidence though. Hes also been lurking and his invitation to lynch seems like a bluff to me. If you are a VT then the only weapon you have is participating in discussion which he outright refuses to do, which makes me think he isn't a VT at all.

AbTs claim is just too convenient. Clashed with a now known townie, dove off the Rafay wagon and stayed off, having a long argument with a townie instead which distracted from the rafay wagon. All could be coincidence but i don't think his luck is quite that bad (especially since he was so unlucky last game).

[Finster Baby]

UNVOTE

CoD's post has made me reconsider. While iSoc's actions are suspicious, AbT's RC, which has bothered me since he made it, along with CoD's argument, has me going in this direction.

VOTE: AbT

[KevinH]

Finster Baby's last vote is not counted because it is after the deadline.

Vote Count:

iSocialism (3): Robert2424, Ali bin Turban, Finster Baby,
Ali bin Turban (3): SeaBeeGipson, iSocialism, Chaplain of Death,
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

No lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore,

 

iSocialism, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched.

It is now Night 3.
Please send actions by noon EST on Friday, December 30.

mod note: Kaziocore has asked to be replaced.

[KevinH]

Night 3 ends.
Nobody was killed in the night.

Vote Count:

Ali bin Turban (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

No lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Robert2424, Ali bin Turban, Finster Baby, SeaBeeGipson, Chaplain of Death,

 

It is now Day 4.
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, January 5, at 15:00 EST.

[Finster Baby]

Interesting...

Is Kazio scum? He has been inactive, and now there was a night with no lynch.

[Robert2424]

Mafia probably went inactive over the holidays or doc protect? Even if one is inactive, the other could still submit an action.

[Chaplain of death]

Okay all cards on table time. Im a cop. I investigated;

iSoc night 1: town
Robert night 2: town
SBG night 3: town

I didn't claim to stop the iSoc lynch yesterday because i was hoping to get another night of investigations and because he could have been the godfather.

Now then, me being a cop means kevin got 2 C results 10% chance (if memory serves) each. If Ali's claim were legit that would mean 3 of the 7 numbers kevin randomly generated were in that 10 number range. I find that highly unlikely, and coupled with the lack of evidence for his claim, i think the choice is obvious. However, if we mislynch we lose.

SBG could be the godfather, though same could be said of everyone claiming VT.

[Robert2424]

wait, so now you counter claim cop? 

[Chaplain of death]

Its not technically speaking a counter claim. I'm a full fledged cop. It is still theoretically possible that AbT is telling the truth, but it would mean kevin got 3 cop results, each of which is 10% chance per roll, and that he got 0 T results, which had a 50% chance per role. Long odds. I was hoping that the town would be paying enough attention to AbT's claim to see the farce that it is without putting my head on the chopping block, I wanted another chance to identify his partner.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Vote AbT

I didnt really believe his claim much anyhow and your counterclaim secures it for me.

As far as regarding the no kill, I'd rather hold my thoughts for the time being. There is a possibility we may catch the scum slipping up here.

[Chaplain of death]

Well a town member has a role of any sort that hasn't been claimed then that will 100% confirm that AbT is lying about his role claim so I'm not sure we should hold that information back at this point (not sure if thats what you are saying or not). If they do not then the only reason scum could have to not perform a kill is because either way they win if we mislynch today, therefore giving us the least amount of information to go on is best for them. 

[Finster Baby]

That settles it for me.

VOTE: AbT

[KevinH]

Vote Count:

Ali bin Turban (2): SeaBeeGipson, Finster Baby,
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

No lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Robert2424, Ali bin Turban, Chaplain of Death,

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, January 5, at 15:00 EST.
 

[Robert2424]

Let's take a look at what we got here. We know for sure that there are 4 power townies min. 2 masons(me and lyner), and 1 vig(TW). We know there was a mafia Roleblocker (rafay) and either two goons or one goon one godfather. We know that isoc was a vanilla townie now. So unless everybody else is a power townies, there is no godfather. Meaning there is only one other power townie left. We have Ali claiming one shot cop. We have COD claiming regular cop (later claim).

We know both roles are possible via Kevin's first post.

We know mafia likely didn't submit a night action unless somebody wants to claim doc and tell us who they protected.

At this point everybody should role claim. Might makes easier, or more complicated. Either way, we can determine weather or no we have a godfather or not. We should take note when people have claimed. I may or may not of missed one. I'm away from my notes.

[KevinH]

Happy New Year!

[Robert2424]

Happy New Year!

its 10:56 here....