The MSG Secure Hospital for the Criminally Insane (MSGSHCI)

"We don't call them inmates, we call them patients."

 

Night was falling on the hospital.

"Alright, into your room, come on..." a Nurse chivvied one of the patients into his cell, who had his head down. He slowly obeyed, but the guard in the corner of the room watched carefully. The Nurse began to shut the door, when suddenly a scream came up from a nearby cell. The guard turned. The nurse shut the door quickly, and turned to leave.

The patient's eyes, previously dull and submissive, became alert. He looked up quickly, and reached through the small window in his cell door and quickly plucked a key from the Nurse's back pocket. He withdrew his arm quickly before she turned around to check the cell had locked itself. A quick tug at the door, and she was satisfied enough, hurrying off to deal with the other patients.

 

The sound of footsteps slowly echoed through the corridors of the institution, made by the few people who were left on patrol. The inhabitants of this miserable place were now mostly quiet in their cells. Those who refused to be quiet had been sedated, and a slow calm was descending upon the place. Water dripped slowly from a leaky water pipe above one of the corridors. It was in this corridor where that one patient stood up from his bunk, and quietly unlocked the door. Something was about to happen.

Edited August 16, 200917 yr by molestargazer

VOTE COUNT

Kaziocore (1): Martino

 

Not Voting (9): Theophilos, Nerau, Sir Jesus, CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Falzis, Kaziocore, KevinH, Aquinas

 

- Falzis will be V/LA until July 11th.

- Nerau still needs replacing. Anyone knows someone / anyone dead wants to do it, shoot me off a PM.

- I'd like activity to pick up a bit.

I don't really have anything new to add at that time. I only voted because I find the guys that spoke before me convincing. Sorry for not saying stuff like that. And it's my first real vote in this game and I did not know I should say something to vote for some guy.

I was busy today due to it being 4th of July here in America. I hope everyone is having a great weekend. I'll be on throughout the day tomorrow to read what's going on and I'll get back to analyzing on Monday. I hope activity picks up soon. I have a feeling that at least one scum has been one of our inactive's.

Vote: Falzis

 

I had my vote on him yesterday and then he voted to lynch a townie. I'll keep my vote where it was.

So I expected to have a decent internet connection while on vacation ... and am sorely disappointed. I glanced through last couple of pages and noticed some suspicion related to my late vote. Everyone needs to keep in mind, at that point in the game there was VERY little evidence to base a vote on (due to no-lynch on day 1). Falzis brought a very convincing piece of "evidence" to the table, and at the time it was the most substantial piece brought into the game.

 

If I was scum I probably would have just laid low and let someone die. In this game my only source of power comes from my votes, and I'm going to use that power to the best of my scum-hunting abilities, even if it draws heat to myself.

 

I've been asked for my 2 scummiest suspects in the soj-lynch camp...

And I feel like that could be an excellent manipulation by CD. Everyone has been focusing on those who voted for soj, allowing 1/3 of the people (and potentially all of the scum) to stay off the radar.

 

However if I must, I would guess Falzis and Kaziocore seem the scummiest.

I want more activity! Prods will be done later today.

So I expected to have a decent internet connection while on vacation ... and am sorely disappointed. I glanced through last couple of pages and noticed some suspicion related to my late vote. Everyone needs to keep in mind, at that point in the game there was VERY little evidence to base a vote on (due to no-lynch on day 1). Falzis brought a very convincing piece of "evidence" to the table, and at the time it was the most substantial piece brought into the game.

 

If I was scum I probably would have just laid low and let someone die.

That is assuming that both Falzis and Sojourner were a townie. I'm certainly not convinced that Falzis is a townie. If Falzis is one of your scum partners, you would be more likely to want to save him.

So I expected to have a decent internet connection while on vacation ... and am sorely disappointed. I glanced through last couple of pages and noticed some suspicion related to my late vote. Everyone needs to keep in mind, at that point in the game there was VERY little evidence to base a vote on (due to no-lynch on day 1). Falzis brought a very convincing piece of "evidence" to the table, and at the time it was the most substantial piece brought into the game.

 

If I was scum I probably would have just laid low and let someone die. In this game my only source of power comes from my votes, and I'm going to use that power to the best of my scum-hunting abilities, even if it draws heat to myself.

 

I've been asked for my 2 scummiest suspects in the soj-lynch camp...

And I feel like that could be an excellent manipulation by CD. Everyone has been focusing on those who voted for soj, allowing 1/3 of the people (and potentially all of the scum) to stay off the radar.

 

However if I must, I would guess Falzis and Kaziocore seem the scummiest.

 

If you were scum then you could have laid low and let someone die. BUT not if Falzis is also scum. Your vote secured the lynch against soj. As for the manipulation (I see where you're going)... I'm focusing on those that voted for soj cuz...to me...I think at least 2 scum would have voted for him (going on the assumption that Falzis is scum). If you think the people that didn't vote for soj are possible suspects...then go ahead and give some reasoning for that then. My role was replaced twice (both newbies)...which screams TOWNIE (as per EM's post about activity).

 

 

Right now...the only person that I have townie vibes is Martino.

I don't agree with that logic. With evidence that there is probably another doc (STRONG)...it is possible that we have a SK. One that is hiding (not killing in order to avoid detection from mafia and townie). Otherwise...why would there be 2 docs + 1 cop with just 3 mafia scum? Given the clues...I'm guessing 2 mafia + 1 SK.

 

I really don't think we have a SK. I just can't imagine someone being a serial killer and not using their night kills as early and often as they can.

I think that their chances of survival are the same no matter if they kill or not at night. 2 mafia seems low still. Maybe there are 2 groups of mafia?

I really don't think we have a SK. I just can't imagine someone being a serial killer and not using their night kills as early and often as they can.

I think that their chances of survival are the same no matter if they kill or not at night. 2 mafia seems low still. Maybe there are 2 groups of mafia?

 

 

I don't know...just trying to make sense of the "WEAK" doc.

 

How people responded to my questions on who they thought were scummy (out of the people who lynched soj).

CD - Falzis, Kaziocore, SJ

Theophiles - Falzis, EM

EM - Falzis, SJ

Aquinas - SJ, KevinH

Kaziocore - Falzis, EM

KevinH - Falzis, EM

Martino - Falzis, Kaziocore

SJ - Falzis, Kaziocore

 

*bolded = who they voted for*

If you were scum then you could have laid low and let someone die. BUT not if Falzis is also scum. Your vote secured the lynch against soj. As for the manipulation (I see where you're going)... I'm focusing on those that voted for soj cuz...to me...I think at least 2 scum would have voted for him (going on the assumption that Falzis is scum). If you think the people that didn't vote for soj are possible suspects...then go ahead and give some reasoning for that then. My role was replaced twice (both newbies)...which screams TOWNIE (as per EM's post about activity).

 

 

Right now...the only person that I have townie vibes is Martino.

 

 

I would agree that CD's inherited role is most likely townie. Typically new people want power roles and don't relish the vanilla townie role. If two of them abandoned their role it most likely means it was a vanilla townie. Of course this is not 100%, but it does push him higher up on my townie meter.

 

 

@CD ~ You said that Martino is the only one you are getting townie vibes from. Why?

Oh boy. I'm the only one who didn't vote for Falzis...I feel my life span shortening.

 

I didn't "vote" for him because I don't find that trying to clear his name is solid enough evidence to condemn him as scum. Wouldn't that be the intention of anyone? Trying to save themselves? Is there some other reason that I missed. What is the current case everyone has with Falzis?

My hypothesis on weak doc/strong doc

 

I'm guessing that the weak doc can protect someone but would lose their own life in the process

 

The strong doc can protect someone at no harm to himself.

I would agree that CD's inherited role is most likely townie. Typically new people want power roles and don't relish the vanilla townie role. If two of them abandoned their role it most likely means it was a vanilla townie. Of course this is not 100%, but it does push him higher up on my townie meter.

 

 

@CD ~ You said that Martino is the only one you are getting townie vibes from. Why?

 

 

Mainly cuz he flat out said Falzis reasoning for his vote on soj was weak (which I agree it was). And then it was all of sudden...bandwagon city on the train to soj.

 

I will wait for Falzis return and give him a chance to talk before casting my vote on him.

 

IF Falzis is scum…

1) Martino, Theophilos, and KevinH are townies cuz I don’t see fellow scum trying to lynch him. Especially since Falzis was the front runner before soj and all 3 did not change their vote.

2) SJ is scum…his last vote on the last day ensured Falzis would not get lynched.

 

IF Falzis is townie…

1) SJ is townie. Does not make sense for SJ to be the hammer vote if he was scum.

EDWOP...

 

IF Falzis is scum...

2) SJ or Aquinas is scum. Aquinas for being the 5th vote and SJ for being the 6th vote. Essentially both votes put Falzis out of harm's way. But...I'm leaning towards SJ.

I'm surprised to hear you say that when I still don't have a vote registered for Falzis.

I'm just not exactly clear on the reasoning against Falzis.

I understand that we learn those things from lynching him but, whats the rationale for lynching him in the first place?

Oh boy. I'm the only one who didn't vote for Falzis...I feel my life span shortening.

 

I didn't "vote" for him because I don't find that trying to clear his name is solid enough evidence to condemn him as scum. Wouldn't that be the intention of anyone? Trying to save themselves? Is there some other reason that I missed. What is the current case everyone has with Falzis?

 

 

It's fine that you didn't vote for Falzis. That's your choice. As for clearing his name...sure...some would try but some would accept being lynched and hope the votes on themselves would garner suspicion (as it is now with soj death).

 

No beef with Falzis. He is merely a suspect until I see more compelling reasons to look elsewhere.

I'm surprised to hear you say that when I still don't have a vote registered for Falzis.

I'm just not exactly clear on the reasoning against Falzis.

I understand that we learn those things from lynching him but, whats the rationale for lynching him in the first place?

 

Not sure what you are getting at.

I never said you voted for Falzis. You voted for soj (the 5th vote).

 

Lynching Falzis gives me some info (at least it does to me) as I stated in my previous post.

I agree, I think lynching him gives some very important information.

 

I just meant, your vote still leans towards Sir Jesus when I am the only one in disagreement with you about Falzis (Although I am not to strongly convinced about my position either). I'm glad to have built up at least a small amount more confidence with you than Sir Jesus.

I agree, I think lynching him gives some very important information.

 

I just meant, your vote still leans towards Sir Jesus when I am the only one in disagreement with you about Falzis (Although I am not to strongly convinced about my position either). I'm glad to have built up at least a small amount more confidence with you than Sir Jesus.

 

 

Technically I haven't voted yet.

 

The people I suspect are Falzis, Kaziocore, and SJ at the moment.

Actually you were never on my radar.

That EDWOP I made was to outline the possibilities that I think exist.

 

VOTE COUNT

Kaziocore (1): Martino

Falzis (1): KevinH

 

Not Voting (8): Theophilos, Nerau, Sir Jesus, CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Falzis, Kaziocore, Aquinas

 

- Falzis will be V/LA until July 11th.

- Nerau still needs replacing. Anyone knows someone / anyone dead wants to do it, shoot me off a PM.

Edited July 6, 200917 yr by molestargazer
Vote count

Might as well name two my self: Falzis and EM (I promissed a FoS - well here it is ...).

 

I'm not gonna repeat everything about Falzis ... the fact that sojourner died just additionally confirmes my suspicions, I had a hunch about EM 'cause of all the support he was giving Falzis, that hunch is now a FoS.

 

@Theo - actually can you repost why you FOS Falzis and EM? I tried to find it but every so often I get a 403 error message in these forums. Makes it hard to go back and read past posts. Thanks, CD.

How people responded to my questions on who they thought were scummy (out of the people who lynched soj).

CD - Falzis, Kaziocore, SJ

Theophiles - Falzis, EM

EM - Falzis, SJ

Aquinas - SJ, KevinH

Kaziocore - Falzis, EM

KevinH - Falzis, EM

Martino - Falzis, Kaziocore

SJ - Falzis, Kaziocore

 

 

Not sure what you are getting at.

I never said you voted for Falzis. You voted for soj (the 5th vote).

 

Lynching Falzis gives me some info (at least it does to me) as I stated in my previous post.

 

 

He's saying that he didn't list Falzis as one of the top two suspects who voted for Sojourner.

 

I'm pretty sure that at least one or two scum voted for Sojourner as well but I hope we don't just narrow our search down to those that did. I'm sure the scum did not throw all of their eggs in one basket.

 

The first day we didn't learn anything and the pressure was on to lynch someone on day 2. Soj did have the strongest case against him at that time and as the end of the day drew near that's when the votes started to pile on. I'm sure there were quite a few townies that felt compelled to vote for someone. By that time it was mostly down to just Falzis and Sojourner (although KevinH was in the running for a while). Sojourner did look to be the better lynch candidate. If enough townies jumped on then the scum wouldn't have had to vote.

 

Also it's still possible that Falzis and Sojourner were both townies. In that case the scum could easily just sit back and watch the town vote each other off. Our day 2 felt a lot more like day 1 because hardly anyone voted during the first day.

@EM - you are entirely correct in that it is still possible that Falzis is a townie. I have some thoughts about that but will wait to share it once Falzis returns and see what he has to say.

 

Now...focusing on why Narsis was targeted.

Looking back he made various votes on Nerau and KevinH.

When it looked like Nerau was being replaced...he changed his vote.

Is it possible that he had his eye on Nerau and that was why he was nk?

 

FOS: Nerau

@EM - you are entirely correct in that it is still possible that Falzis is a townie. I have some thoughts about that but will wait to share it once Falzis returns and see what he has to say.

 

Now...focusing on why Narsis was targeted.

Looking back he made various votes on Nerau and KevinH.

When it looked like Nerau was being replaced...he changed his vote.

Is it possible that he had his eye on Nerau and that was why he was nk?

 

FOS: Nerau

 

 

I have my own wild theory about Nerau that I'll share since you brought him up. The nk scene mentioned there were two killers. What if there were 3 mafia (as most vets would say is about the right amount) but since Nerau was inactive Mole didn't include him in the write up. Nerau could be the mafia godfather and when he didn't send in his night action it went to the 2nd goon in charge and Mole wrote the scene using only the two active goons?

ACTIVITY

Theophilos - Inactive

Nerau - SEEKING REPLACEMENT (Help!)

Sir Jesus - Active

CanucksDynasty - Active

Electric Mango - Active

Martino - Active

Falzis - V/LA

Kaziocore - Active

KevinH - Active

Aquinas - Active

 

A prod is being sent to Theophilos. Otherwise, activity is good.

Edited July 6, 200917 yr by molestargazer