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[Lysistrata]

Just heard PM Theresa May speak in Philadelphia... Where the hell have they been hiding her? She is amazing!

 

Looks like Mexico will be getting hit with an import tax, probably 20%, to pay for the wall. Nieto should just hand Trump a 20 billion dollar check and call it even... it would be easier on them. At every turn, detractors have claimed Trump cannot do something, just to see him doing it. He says we'll get sick of winning... after 4 days of winning, I'm not sick of it yet.

[onbekende]

Think May was hiding herself, don't think she liked being made PM, let alone under which circumstances. She be on of those "politicians" I mentioned before, a real one!

[Lysistrata]

Think May was hiding herself, don't think she liked being made PM, let alone under which circumstances. She be on of those "politicians" I mentioned before, a real one!

From what I have learned since her speech, she was not in favor of the Brexit, but I guess she is now. I have never heard her speak until today, me being over here. I was very impressed.

 

I have also heard that an import border tax on just Mexico is something that may not happen. Something about having to tax all imports, or no imports. So it's probably going to be like a 5% tax on imports, a tax on money going across the border into Mexico, a tax on visas... a bunch of things combined. I don't know, I'm not an economist, but this wall is going up.

[ImYachtBoy]

so federal funds for building a $12-15B wall but let's stop the investigation and the funding to rectify the Flint water crisis?

[Blade 619]

Just heard PM Theresa May speak in Philadelphia... Where the hell have they been hiding her? She is amazing!

 

Looks like Mexico will be getting hit with an import tax, probably 20%, to pay for the wall. Nieto should just hand Trump a 20 billion dollar check and call it even... it would be easier on them. At every turn, detractors have claimed Trump cannot do something, just to see him doing it. He says we'll get sick of winning... after 4 days of winning, I'm not sick of it yet.

 

I mean, if you wanna keep her feel free. We've got some great clowns ready to take over from her.

[Lysistrata]

I mean, if you wanna keep her feel free. We've got some great clowns ready to take over from her.

She has her hands full right now as Prime Minister of the UK, but Hillary's free... can we give her to you?

 

so federal funds for building a $12-15B wall but let's stop the investigation and the funding to rectify the Flint water crisis?

What does the Flint water crisis have to do with border security? It's a local problem, and I'm sure Michigan has the Flint issue under control. Do you live there? If you live in Flint Michigan, you are having to deal with it. I live in Las Vegas Nevada, not a border state, but we are flooded with illegals and the drugs... the problem of our southern border is everywhere.

[ImYachtBoy]

Money is money is money. If you spend money there, you can't spend money there. So they are incredibly related. I do not live there, but that has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with the fact that they've been living without clean drinking water since April 2014, so I don't think it's "under control." How would you like to use hundreds of water bottles just to take a bath? 

 

Shit is not good there, and now we're spending upwards of $20B on a border fence when 

1) illegal immigration is at an all-time low

2) illegal immigrants crime rates are the lowest they've been in history

3) the only thing that has bolstered the US population has been immigration. the birth rate per couple is ~1.8, to sustain the population you need an average of 2.1. By enforcing a border wall, you drive down immigration, lessen the amount of available money to the government (via taxes) and that's available in the system, tariffs go up, commodities and basic good prices go up, inflation takes hold. In a period of stagnating wages, higher inflation is like insanely not good.

 

those are truths. individuals that hang on to the boogie man of the illegal immigrant holding the american people down have really go to check themselves. They have had impacts, but the rhetoric of Trump does not match up with what's going on in reality. 

 

Oh, if you took a small sample of middle-to-lower income class illegal immigrant families (who still contribute taxes and money into the economy), they probably paid more taxes than Trump over a given period.

[Fox Fire]

I have a short list of personal heroes, and Winston Churchill, in my opinion, is one of the greatest men who ever lived. I have been asked several times in my life if I had a chance to have a conversation with anyone, living or dead, who would it be? Churchill would be one I would strongly think about. If it wasn't for Winston Churchill, and all my brave British cousins... we would have lost World War II. There are some of us here in the USA that still know the truth, and we will not allow it to be forgotten.

 

There is a new series on Netflix called "The Crown"... John Lithgow as Winston, during his final years in public life... it's amazing... and I am waiting patiently for the release of Christopher Nolan's next film entitled "Dunkirk". It's high time we see this story, and maybe we can remember, just for a couple hours, what real men do when all you have left is hope.

Wow really? I hear Church was widely unpopular with the exception of his leadership during the war. He was kind of a dick. 

[DeathMerchant]

Funny story about illegal immigrants. I used to have a coworker who last year was found to be an illegal immigrant. Worked about 12 years in the company, made about $45k a year, and pretended not to speak a word of English so anytime he screwed up he had an easy way out. Well one day he took stupid pills and got himself arrested for drunk driving. Slapped with a big fine, it was his first offense so he didnt have any jail time, and he came back to work about a month later. Well several weeks go by and someone in law enforcement noticed his background just wasn't right. So they launched an investigation against him. Turns out he had been using some dead guy's social security number for over a decade, and he would likely still be here if he didnt acquire a criminal record. Immigration showed up at my job and said they wanted information on the guy, and they eventually caught up with him. Last I heard he was sitting in prison waiting to get deported to whatever country from the southern hemisphere he was originally from. When my coworkers asked his Spanish speaking work friends what happened to him. Their exact response was 'who are you talking about?' 'I don't know who that is'. So quite a few people knew he was breaking the law, but no one ever turned him in. I bet his story would have made national news if he had killed someone when he got that DWI.

[Fox Fire]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauna_Kea_Observatories#Opposition_and_protests

The thirty meter telescope should be built. The whole protest seems to be about "sacred land" even though there are already telescopes on the mountain. 

Know what? When it comes to illegal immigrants, I'll say this. I'm absolutely opposed to illegal immigration, but realistically... I come from a farming community. I've worked on said farms and without them, we'd all starve. They literally farm our food and make it affordable. 

[Lysistrata]

How would you like to use hundreds of water bottles just to take a bath? 

I would move... but that's just me I guess. It is a Michigan problem. In an effort to save money, they switched their water supply from Lake Huron to the Flint River. Big mistake. I have heard that the problem has been eliminated, but they still recommend filtering the water. Glad to know you don't live there... I can't imagine wanting to, but at least you guys can keep pointing at it for a talking point.

 

Regarding the illegals... You can believe anything you want, but I don't believe a word of that. Since when has "bolstering our population" been something we need to do? There is another election in 2018. Maybe you guys can flip enough seats to change the tide, but until then I think we'll do things our way for a while and see what happens.

Wow really? I hear Church was widely unpopular with the exception of his leadership during the war. He was kind of a dick.

He was a Conservative... lots of people think we are all dicks.  

[Shahenshah]

How does Trump intends to pay for all the infrastructure development while giving massive tax cuts to the rich?

 

Fed gonna print? given it's the same swamp there still. 

[Lysistrata]

How does Trump intends to pay for all the infrastructure development while giving massive tax cuts to the rich?

 

Fed gonna print? given it's the same swamp there still. 

OMG! The corporate tax rate is 35% + up to 12% State and Local... That's about 50% higher than even Cyber Nations allows, and higher than anywhere on the real planet. If you really want to hurt the rich and take their money... lower the corporate tax rate, force them to stay in the USA, and force them to the table to negotiate Union scale wages to their workers. Wow... massive tax cuts to the rich. I think we'll take the jobs and the salaries, and Democrats can keep their "tax cuts to the rich" bumper sticker.

 

The idea is to get more people back in the workforce, making more money, paying more taxes. Paying for that infrastructure is what Republicans in Congress will have a problem with, but it still needs to get done. At least we now have a President that knows that there is more than one way to cook a steak.

[onbekende]

 

Think May was hiding herself, don't think she liked being made PM, let alone under which circumstances. She be on of those "politicians" I mentioned before, a real one!

From what I have learned since her speech, she was not in favor of the Brexit, but I guess she is now. I have never heard her speak until today, me being over here. I was very impressed.

 

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Well her party (the conservatives) were split on the subject, she indeed leaned to the Remain camp, afterwards advocated the "soft" Brexit. Then she got PM and coupled with several "hard" Brexit ministers she had to alter the tune.

 

Still a good politician without hearing her once, she actually went out and did what the country desired.
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I have also heard that an import border tax on just Mexico is something that may not happen. Something about having to tax all imports, or no imports. So it's probably going to be like a 5% tax on imports, a tax on money going across the border into Mexico, a tax on visas... a bunch of things combined. I don't know, I'm not an economist, but this wall is going up.

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Wonder what it would do on inflation.

 

As for taxing money going across the border, enjoy losing global reserve currence status.
 
 
 
lol speaking about high taxes, if your POTUS can get himself +15y of 0 taxes, I highly doubt your Fortune 500 company's pay the full 35%... Your smaller businesses with under 50 workers, thats another matter.

[ccabal86]

"As for taxing money going across the border, enjoy losing global reserve currence status."

Serious question though: If the dollar were to lose its global reserve currency status, what would be the "new" global reserve currency? The Euro? The Yuan? to be honest, I can't realistically think of any.

[onbekende]

bitcoins offcourse!

 

Well it would happen gradually anyway, but if you put a tax on global $$ exchange, people will look for other means of stashing their wealth. I'd guess a more diversification will be used of both monetary (euro, yuan, yen?, ...) and raw materials (gold, precious metals, oil?). Know the IMF is already using the yuan in one of its "reserve currency" handles.

[ccabal86]

Extreme vetting starts now: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38777437

 

If I agree on anything with Trump, it's this. The only thing unfair here is how they screw over former US army aides, they should make an exception with those people and their immediate families.

 

I ESPECIALLY like this part:

 

 The order also said all immigration programmes should include questions to "evaluate the applicant's likelihood of becoming a positively contributing member of society."

 

The EU should be taking notes.

[onbekende]

You better add "evaluate if immigrants (grand)children will bring a positive contribution to society" >_>

[onbekende]

So Trump is making an echo room, would I make a chance to be included in this little group? I have no doubt I am equally qualified as some of the other contenders: Hannity, O'Reilly, Republican pundit caricature played by Colbert, ...

 

My qualifications:

- can read Breitbart, Fox, right wing loony bin, ...

- will parrot Trump's word in true verbatism¹

- Praising POTUS over 10 seconds

- Attack "fake news" every 60 seconds

- Been "close" to Islamic enemies and survived!²

 

 

^{note 1: will not use this word or any other dictionary word in presence of POTUS}

^{note 2: perhaps a negative?}

[ccabal86]

Some rather interesting commentary about the Women's March. First few minutes are about a guy getting banned off twitter, just skip it.

https://youtu.be/AHmmYDyyXXk

What I absolutely can not comprehend is how in THE HELL have Islamists managed to infiltrate feminist circles. Absolutely baffling.