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[KH-17] Matrix6 Mafia - Mafia Wins!

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Unbelievable. Someone said it earlier on (I think it was Robert), if I am scum the town was doomed anyway. The half of you that are voting for me have done almost nothing for the town in this game. I have been here from the beginning pushing people to speak. I have called out and challenged things that looked scummy. I have gone out of my way unnecessarily to register a vote publicly when I didn't need to, when I could have more easily sat back and done nothing.

I asked for a game extension when we lost two days to forum problems. If I didn't do so, the day would have ended on Friday with KitKat receiving the half majority first and he would have been lynched before the other votes came in on me. If I was scum, why would I have requested a game extension? The game would have ended since KitKat would have been lynched by the half majority. If I was scum I would not have asked to extend the game when I was guaranteed a win on Friday by not doing so.

I am also voting in the same direction that our town cop was voting. It is incredible that you are so easily discounting the cop's vote. And when I requested a reasoning from both EM and KitKat for that fact, the request was ignored. If you are the townie voting for me, you at least owe it to the town to push them both for an answer to that question. You are doing yourself and the town a huge disservice by not doing so.

At least one of the three of you voting for me are town and I'm now appealing directly to you. Reconsider your vote. My role claim by itself won't help me at this time but I am a Vanilla Townie.

Please reconsider your vote and look at everything I have done in this game. Especially look at the things I did when it was not necessary to do so (voting and asking for an extension). If you are town our best chance at winning this game is by lynching KitKat today. He is the most likely to come up as scum and if/when he does EM is next.

If you truly believe that I am still scum after reflecting on the game sincerely, then re-cast your vote for me before deadline tomorrow. But if you do keep your vote placed on me the game is over at deadline and we have lost.
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Unbelievable. Someone said it earlier on (I think it was Robert), if I am scum the town was doomed anyway. The half of you that are voting for me have done almost nothing for the town in this game. I have been here from the beginning pushing people to speak. I have called out and challenged things that looked scummy. I have gone out of my way unnecessarily to register a vote publicly when I didn't need to, when I could have more easily sat back and done nothing.

I asked for a game extension when we lost two days to forum problems. If I didn't do so, the day would have ended on Friday with KitKat receiving the half majority first and he would have been lynched before the other votes came in on me. If I was scum, why would I have requested a game extension? The game would have ended since KitKat would have been lynched by the half majority. If I was scum I would not have asked to extend the game when I was guaranteed a win on Friday by not doing so.

I am also voting in the same direction that our town cop was voting. It is incredible that you are so easily discounting the cop's vote. And when I requested a reasoning from both EM and KitKat for that fact, the request was ignored. If you are the townie voting for me, you at least owe it to the town to push them both for an answer to that question. You are doing yourself and the town a huge disservice by not doing so.

At least one of the three of you voting for me are town and I'm now appealing directly to you. Reconsider your vote. My role claim by itself won't help me at this time but I am a Vanilla Townie.

Please reconsider your vote and look at everything I have done in this game. Especially look at the things I did when it was not necessary to do so (voting and asking for an extension). If you are town our best chance at winning this game is by lynching KitKat today. He is the most likely to come up as scum and if/when he does EM is next.

If you truly believe that I am still scum after reflecting on the game sincerely, then re-cast your vote for me before deadline tomorrow. But if you do keep your vote placed on me the game is over at deadline and we have lost.

 

Re: asking for game extension, I only had two votes on me at the time. I would not have been lynched if the day had ended as two votes are not a majority.

 

Re: your claim that I did not answer your question about why LordSunday [edit: I originally said Robert, it's late here and I confused him with LS] voted for me, that is simply false, as you (and everyone else) can see I answered that question at length.

 

Also, roleclaiming VT is exactly what a scum would do, so it doesn't help you much.

 

The one thing that gives me pause is that we can ill afford a mislynch. But you've pressed so hard to lynch me based on such feeble evidence that you *are* my number 1 suspect.


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2 votes are not the majority, they are the half-majority (aka the number of votes needed to be lynched at deadline if majority isn't reached). You were already at that number. That means that without my extension request you would have been lynched, the game would be over, and the scum would have won... if I was scum.

I know that my roleclaim alone won't save me. Hence the reason I'm asking the townie on my wagon to actually consider all the evidence. The bottom line is that everything I have done in this game has been pro-town and anti-scum.

Scum does not do the following:
-Lead the game in post count.
-Request and push activity from everyone who is not actively contributing.
-Vote when there is no logical reason to do so.
-Request a game extension when not doing so would mean scum win.

The biggest theme against me in this entire game is that I'm alive and that makes me suspicious. That is complete bullshit as a reason and if that is the deciding factor in your vote for me you should not be playing this game. It is obvious that the scum team has used this fact as an easy accusation against me.

If you are town right now, you owe it to the town and to yourself to consider everything right now before casting what is likely the deciding vote. There is no tomorrow with an incorrect lynch.
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2 votes are not the majority, they are the half-majority (aka the number of votes needed to be lynched at deadline if majority isn't reached). You were already at that number. That means that without my extension request you would have been lynched, the game would be over, and the scum would have won... if I was scum.

I know that my roleclaim alone won't save me. Hence the reason I'm asking the townie on my wagon to actually consider all the evidence. The bottom line is that everything I have done in this game has been pro-town and anti-scum.

Scum does not do the following:
-Lead the game in post count.
-Request and push activity from everyone who is not actively contributing.
-Vote when there is no logical reason to do so.
-Request a game extension when not doing so would mean scum win.

The biggest theme against me in this entire game is that I'm alive and that makes me suspicious. That is complete bullshit as a reason and if that is the deciding factor in your vote for me you should not be playing this game. It is obvious that the scum team has used this fact as an easy accusation against me.

If you are town right now, you owe it to the town and to yourself to consider everything right now before casting what is likely the deciding vote. There is no tomorrow with an incorrect lynch.

 

Ah. I didn't realise that two votes was enough to get someone lynched. My mistake. Still, I don't see your asking for a game extension as definitive proof that you're town. Given our forum problems it was common sense to get an extension and KevinH could easily have done that of his own accord. I fully expected that there would be an extension from the moment I saw we had forum problems again (lawl.)

 

And, no, other reasons have been given for considering you suspicious other than simply the fact that you're alive.


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Now we can see sides finally starting to shape up. Things will be a lot more clear tomorrow.
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I want to change my vote. I really do.

HOWEVER...

This wagon was started by KitKat, whose actions still lead me to believe that he is the better choice here. LS's hunch holds a lot of sway with me.

TW is a skilled player though, and I certainly will not discount anything that EM, Rafay, etc have said. TW, you absolutely could be scum and be a leading poster, you've done it before, and had a lot of us convinced you were town until you knifed us.

I don't have to hammer anyone as deadline is in just under 4 hours, and TW is at half lynch.
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I want to change my vote. I really do.

HOWEVER...

This wagon was started by KitKat, whose actions still lead me to believe that he is the better choice here. LS's hunch holds a lot of sway with me.

TW is a skilled player though, and I certainly will not discount anything that EM, Rafay, etc have said. TW, you absolutely could be scum and be a leading poster, you've done it before, and had a lot of us convinced you were town until you knifed us.

I don't have to hammer anyone as deadline is in just under 4 hours, and TW is at half lynch.

 

Eh? I thought half lynch was two people? o.O (TW said I was at half lynch, and there were only two votes on me.)


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Once you get to 2 votes, you're at half lynch. Meaning you'll be lynched at the end of the day.

TW is beyond half lynch, but 1 vote away from an immediate lynch. If he were to get to 4 votes he'd be lynched immediately.

You're currently safe as he has 3 votes to your 2.
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Once you get to 2 votes, you're at half lynch. Meaning you'll be lynched at the end of the day.

TW is beyond half lynch, but 1 vote away from an immediate lynch. If he were to get to 4 votes he'd be lynched immediately.

You're currently safe as he has 3 votes to your 2.

 

What happens if iSocialism gets back in time to vote for me? With a 3-3 draw, the rules say the first person to reach half lynch dies, but does that mean the first person to reach two votes or as in this case the first person to reach 3?


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It would be 1st to reach 3
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2 votes are not the majority, they are the half-majority (aka the number of votes needed to be lynched at deadline if majority isn't reached). You were already at that number. That means that without my extension request you would have been lynched, the game would be over, and the scum would have won... if I was scum.

I know that my roleclaim alone won't save me. Hence the reason I'm asking the townie on my wagon to actually consider all the evidence. The bottom line is that everything I have done in this game has been pro-town and anti-scum.

Scum does not do the following:
-Lead the game in post count.
-Request and push activity from everyone who is not actively contributing.
-Vote when there is no logical reason to do so.
-Request a game extension when not doing so would mean scum win.

The biggest theme against me in this entire game is that I'm alive and that makes me suspicious. That is complete bullshit as a reason and if that is the deciding factor in your vote for me you should not be playing this game. It is obvious that the scum team has used this fact as an easy accusation against me.

If you are town right now, you owe it to the town and to yourself to consider everything right now before casting what is likely the deciding vote. There is no tomorrow with an incorrect lynch.

 

Ah. I didn't realise that two votes was enough to get someone lynched. My mistake. Still, I don't see your asking for a game extension as definitive proof that you're town. Given our forum problems it was common sense to get an extension and KevinH could easily have done that of his own accord. I fully expected that there would be an extension from the moment I saw we had forum problems again (lawl.)

 

And, no, other reasons have been given for considering you suspicious other than simply the fact that you're alive.

 

What Kevin *could have done* is irrelevant and nothing more than speculation on your part. What we do know is that the extension happened because I asked for it. If I was scum, that extension request wouldn't have happened and you would have been lynched at the original deadline since you had half majority (2 votes). Why in the hell would I deprive myself of a guaranteed win if I was scum? All of you who are also town should be asking yourselves this question!

 

Now we can see sides finally starting to shape up. Things will be a lot more clear tomorrow.

There won't be any clarity other than it being game over when I am lynched, EM. You will see that you were a misguided townie voting for me and that I was right about KitKat all along. Please consider my other points and look at the big picture before deadline. I simply would NOT have done most of the things that I have if I was scum.

 

I want to change my vote. I really do.

HOWEVER...

This wagon was started by KitKat, whose actions still lead me to believe that he is the better choice here. LS's hunch holds a lot of sway with me.

TW is a skilled player though, and I certainly will not discount anything that EM, Rafay, etc have said. TW, you absolutely could be scum and be a leading poster, you've done it before, and had a lot of us convinced you were town until you knifed us.

I don't have to hammer anyone as deadline is in just under 4 hours, and TW is at half lynch.

Finster, I guarantee you that your vote is in the correct place. 

 

@Electric Mango and @Rafay - If you are both town you should seriously give second thought to your votes before the deadline this morning. It is imperative that you consider everything. you owe it to yourselves and to the town. I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, that if you vote for KitKat today the town will win this game. 


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The Warrior (3): Kitkat16, Electric Mango, Rafay,
Kitkat16 (2): The Warrior, Finster Baby,
Electric Mango (1): iSocialism,
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting:

 
The Warrior, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched.

 

It is now Night 3.

Please send night actions to me by Wednesday, April 19, at 12:00 EDT.



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Night 3 ends.

Electric Mango, Vanilla Townie, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 4.

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Kitkat16 (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Kitkat16, Rafay, Finster Baby, iSocialism,

 

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Vote: Kitkat16

 

Seems pretty clear to me now. Sorry The Warrior; you will not have died in vain.


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VOTE: Kitkat16

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Kitkat16 (2): Rafay, Finster Baby,
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Finster Baby (0):

 

No lynch:

 

Not voting: Kitkat16, iSocialism,

 
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You know what. Scrap the original version of this post. Yeah, I'm a mafia. 

 

To my scum buddy (you know who you are).... you're the roleblocker. When the town lynches me today, the only thing you need to do to win the game is not attempt to both kill and roleblock the same person tonight.

 

Let me explain. If person A is the doctor and person B is the vanilla townie, person A *HAS* to protect person B tonight, because the doctor cannot save himself. That means that if you target person A to kill him and you roleblock person B, you're guaranteed a kill. If, on the other hand, you target person B to kill him and you roleblock person A, you're also guaranteed a kill as person A will be prevented from using his doctor power to save person B. The only possible way for us to lose at this point is if you target person B i.e. the townie tonight to kill him AND ALSO USE YOUR ROLEBLOCK POWER ON THAT SAME PERSON B. 

 

I repeat for emphasis: when the town lynches me tonight, use your roleblock on one of the two remaining people, and target the OTHER person (whom you did not roleblock) to kill. That guarantees us a win. DO NOT both roleblock and attempt to kill the same person.

 

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*cheeky grin at The Warrior*

 

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Grumble grumble. Hurry up and vote to kill me iSoc. This waiting is killing me. (Ok, that was a terrible pun.) 

 

And the rest of you guys are denying me my fun by not replying either. :P


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