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[Kitkat16]

Having reread the thread, I'm changing my vote. 

 

Unvote: Rafay

Vote: iSoc

 

He started the KC wagon, jumps off to Rafay, and then switches his vote again. He is also as I pointed out before the hammer, *AND* ended the day early. Then today he says that both scum are almost certainly on the wagon, and then one post later votes Rafay.

brewersalliance I have to get back to work but you seem smart so if you have any bright ideas before the deadline let me know lol

[brewersalliance]

Having reread the thread, I'm changing my vote. 

 

Unvote: Rafay

Vote: iSoc

 

He started the KC wagon, jumps off to Rafay, and then switches his vote again. He is also as I pointed out before the hammer, *AND* ended the day early. Then today he says that both scum are almost certainly on the wagon, and then one post later votes Rafay.

brewersalliance I have to get back to work but you seem smart so if you have any bright ideas before the deadline let me know lol

 

those are actually really good points, they def are making me think.  im gonna have to review everything deeper once this WS game is over.  but yeah def FoS on iSoc right now.  what do you have to say for yourself to ease any suspicions iSoc?

[iSocialism]

Yeah, I laid the hammer on KC. I don't think it's a bad thing when the day is dead and you already got what you can out of the day. Specially on day one. As of lately I've been been trying to make more then one major wagon. That's why I went with Rafay. If KC was scum someone might place their vote on the next closest wagon to save the other person. The chance needs to be there though. Hammering the wagon IMO, is not a scum thing but people like to use it as "evidence" nothing against kit, but I would just sit where I was at and let the day play out. When someone is already on the chopping block. If that's all you got, then you got nothing. As for both scum being on the wagon, I didn't say it was for certain, just with two off and five on. That the chance of both being on are higher than off. I also said that's where I was leaning at that moment. An inner thought I didn't mention was that with the chance being higher with both on I would be careful of people trying to deflect that at least one is on and the other off the wagon. With Rafay wagon going no where, and myself being sold on SBG, despite around three people saying someone could be off the wagon. I'm now leaning towards the "certain" that both scum could be on the wagon. So my vote changes,

VOTE MK

[brewersalliance]

ok so after reading through all the posts, iSoc has been constant in saying its important to have a wagon to see how the votes fall, which is why he started the KC one, way back in the beginning, and then started a rafay one (iSoc did say in the post it was to start another wagon to compete with KC getting lynched, which was a good point, since if there was no one else with votes, everyone could just stack on KC and we wouldn't have much to go on).  iSoc also never said anything about not ending the day early, in fact said the oposite "Everyone is like "don't end the day early"..... Why because you want time to be quiet" which is a good point.  there has not been much activity so I do not think ending the day early should be read into that much, i mean no one has really been making that big of an effort to post or hunt scum, so its not like ending the day a few hours early would have made a difference.  Plus iSoc did ask if we could replace KC with an active player (which I do not think scum would have asked for) and KevinH said he would consider it if KC wasnt lynched, and no one was presenting other candidates to be lynched, nor did anyone else react to the chance to take their votes off KC to save him to be replaced, so really the only person who tried to get him replaced/saved was iSoc.  

 

Now with that being said, there is also an extremely suspicious aspect to it.  I think its suspicious that iSoc has placed votes on Rafay both on d1 and d2 now, without really presenting a theory as to why Rafay should be lynched (other than not being super active)  however considering we lost two town so far, our votes on d2 need to have reason behind them and should not be based on activity levels alone, since the vast majority of us have not been very active which means there will be townies who could die based on that criteria.  Secondly, I do find it odd that iSoc said ?Most likely all two scum were on the wagon. I believe there is only two left alive that were off the wagon, SBG and Rafay. This is where my mind is at, for now" and places a vote on the very next post on someone who is not on the bandwagon.  that does not make sense to me, and the explanation does not make sense either.  another suspicious act is when iSoc said We could just leave one vote on each other, and see who gets lynch happy first, and see who puts someone at lynch vote number 2. Sounds fun. Even though It looks like right now I already did."  last night I was trying to think of the most effective maf strategy, and that was one that popped into my mind, since if we all placed 1 vote on each person, since it takes 2 to lynch, the mafia could easily control who dies then and ensure it is town and take control of this game for good.  

 

so right now I am very suspicious of iSoc, as in my mind the negatives outweigh the positives (if you couldnt tell i was trying to make arguments for both sides here, so do not say i am contradicting myself.... looking at you mk )  I am curious to know why after you defended yourself, you changed your vote to MK without providing a reason.  I also think that if MK gets lynched and he is town iSoc is def scum.  but at the moment i still feel the evidence is pointing more to MK for all my reasons previously stated (though it is close).  

 

and considering I only have a few min left alive, since im probably getting killed tonight by the scum since ive been the most active and diving the most into people's posts, I would at least like to take one of those fuckers out so come on guys, lets get our detective glasses out and come to a consensus

 

deadline is vast approaching guys.  lets hear some thoughts quickly please

[Lachiton]

I already have placed my suspicions and vote on iSoc. He somehow posts a logical post trying to explain himself and then just votes on the person which has nothing to do with his post. Also his votes on Rafay both days and withdrawing it to place on someone else made me almost sure he is scum. He kinda defended Rafay when vgm was questioning his posts by saying this is how Rafay plays do nothing unusual, but then goes ahead and places a vote on him regardless without explanation. Also disagree that he was the only one trying to get KC replaced. He asked Kevin a question, similarly me and Seabee did too.

I posted one post explaining my vote on iSoc and this week has been very hectic in RL to put my mind on making more investigative post here. I have a gut feeling iSoc is scum and I'm going with it. I may be wrong but I am taking a chance here.

[brewersalliance]

Edit I realized the deadline has passed. It was 12 edt or 11 here. So mk is lynched. If mk is town isoc and rafay are scum . He took his vote of rafay to save him and killed mk

[iSocialism]

No, I'm lynched ya idiots

[brewersalliance]

I thought you only had one vote

[Lachiton]

Kitkat changed from Rafay to iSoc it seems.

[brewersalliance]

Either you're calling us idiots cause you're scum and playing the role still or you're town and my theory on mk is probably true
And then I'd guess the two on the KC bandwagon is correct if you're town and it's mk and KitKat for being the deciding vote for you

[iSocialism]

If I was scum I wouldn't leave Rafay to get myself lynched. That's why all you all are idiots. In a joking matter, I don't know about RL

[SeaBeeGipson]

Wait, Rafay isn't the lynch? 
Isocialism was actually participating before he was getting put on a wagon (usually not the sign of a scum.)

Well see when the results post though whether he is or isn't, but I wasn't too convince Isocialism should've been our lynch

[brewersalliance]

I didn't realize you had two votes and leaving him got you lynched. I still kept my vote on MK and am sticking with my theory that he is scum until he is proven by the game either ending or him dying that he isn't scum. KitKat, who was my number two suspect from the start was the deciding vote on you and SBG has been very quiet until ten seconds ago when you died... Hmm. So it's MK and which other one?

And if you weren't too convinced on him being the Lynch why have you been so quiet and not really all that helpful? You definitely didn't do anything to prevent his lynching. SBG is now def suspect in my eyes

[Lachiton]

Why the hell would you change your vote to MK at the very end to get yourself lynched? Sorry calling us idiots doesn't change the fact that you put yourself in this position. And if you turn out to be town PR, I am gonna hunt you down and kick your ass

[brewersalliance]

That's actually a really good point. If you would have kept your vote on rafay he would have been lynched instead of you iSoc. Lol

Sounds like a game throw to me lol jk

[Lachiton]

And brewers farewell to you as well. I think you're definitely getting night killed now, unless you're scum.

[brewersalliance]

That's why I'm talking as much as I can now. I'm def dead tonight. Only way I am not killed is if MK is town. The scum would be smart to leave me alive cause a) everyone probably figures I am gonna die so they would think I'm scum then, or the scum would use me to lead the Lynch MK train tomorrow. I was gonna hold out this theory until if I live, but then again in probably dead.

Edit
Actually I bet I don't die. Im the obvious choice to die tonight. The scum know that. So keeping me alive will make everyone think I'm scum, and then the scum would get a super easy town Lynch tomorrow since if I don't die, you are all gonna vote me as scum (this is my pitch for the scum to kill me so we don't Lynch town tomorrow too)

Edited by brewersalliance, 02 November 2017 - 05:20 PM.

[iSocialism]

Now no one can use the excuse that they knew I was town, and that's why they didn't vote for me. There were many options, such as MK and Rafay. Instead one created a new wagon, and someone else hop from one to the other very short quick. I never vote for the person I want dead right at the beginning of the game and leave at that. I will vote for people with a low scum reading IMO, and watch the movement and discussion around that. The few things I have against me right now are "OMG hammer" yes because that is without a doubt a scum tell sign. The other is I switched my votes around, because "OMG, I found scum right when day two started, and I'm sticking to it." Geez, sorry for poking around and trying my methods to scum hunt. A vote is also a tool not just a decision.... lots more but I don't want to bore y'all

[iSocialism]

Lach you also go from saying. I was trying to make myself look like a town, and why would I have a problem with being lynched. To now why would you vote for mk and get yourself lynched?

Also saying Brew is definitely going to be night killed, sounds like a setup. Wonder what you well speculate when he's still alive day three.

[brewersalliance]

Lach you also go from saying. I was trying to make myself look like a town, and why would I have a problem with being lynched. To now why would you vote for mk and get yourself lynched?
Also saying Brew is definitely going to be night killed, sounds like a setup. Wonder what you well speculate when he's still alive day three.

Which is exactly why I edited my post to say this : Actually I bet I don't die. Im the obvious choice to die tonight. The scum know that. So keeping me alive will make everyone think I'm scum, and then the scum would get a super easy town Lynch tomorrow since if I don't die, you are all gonna vote me as scum (this is my pitch for the scum to kill me so we don't Lynch town tomorrow too)