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[legoboyvdlp]

well, iSoc? SBG? Who's going to be the first to post?

Vote: iSocialism

 

This can't go wrong, at worst it proves Kevin to be a liar. 

will that wake you up?

[brewersalliance]

6 to lynch, 4 at deadline right?

[legoboyvdlp]

I believe so.

[Canik]

 

Assuming Isocialism is a town vig, what would stop him from killing Kevin over the night, while we lynch Rafay?

That is my assumption with this vote. Rafay is most likely to be scum to me, so it makes sense he gets lynched.
If Isoc is telling the truth, he kills Kevin.
If Kevin is telling the truth, Isoc doesn't.

How could that backfire?

Please explain, I genuinely do not follow here.

it could backfire like this.  Rafay pops town.  Isoc is scum, kevin is town.  scum kill town that isnt kevin, and we lost two more town and are back in the same "is it isoc or is it kevin boat" that we are in now

 

I was liking SBGs plan at first but that's a very good point by Brewers. We may be very sure Rafay is scum but there is still a chance we're wrong and if we are that would leave us with little go on the next day.

​If Rafay was town I would think it a little more likely KevinH would be town then but.. more concrete info would be better. If we lynch KevinH and his is town we KNOW iSoc really is scum and vice versa.

[KevinH]

I became a watcher, not a tracker.  While I suspected iSocialism for being the hammer on Day 1, that was no reason to watch him.  I could have used the watching power on Night 1 but there was no obvious target.  On Night 2, things were different.  FrigidInferno was most likely the cop and was most likely the target of the scum so that's why I watched him.  I saw iSocialism and nobody else target FrigidInferno.

 

iSocialism might be the 1-shot vig but he's still scum.  There could also be a scum buddy who is the 1-shot vig which makes it a safe claim for iSocialism.  We need to lynch him and that will prove that I'm town.

[iSocialism]

Exactly the response I expected from Kevin.

care to explore on why you waited to tell the town about your role.

[iSocialism]

I became a watcher, not a tracker.  While I suspected iSocialism for being the hammer on Day 1, that was no reason to watch him.  I could have used the watching power on Night 1 but there was no obvious target.  On Night 2, things were different.  FrigidInferno was most likely the cop and was most likely the target of the scum so that's why I watched him.  I saw iSocialism and nobody else target FrigidInferno.

 

iSocialism might be the 1-shot vig but he's still scum.  There could also be a scum buddy who is the 1-shot vig which makes it a safe claim for iSocialism.  We need to lynch him and that will prove that I'm town.

You may had became the watcher, not a truth teller., You're still scum, butut the fact that you "saw" mean your probably not. Your scum buddy could have the backup role, which also makes it safe to claim. better yet, favorable for you to role claim. You saw nothing, but your own death with nothing else to save you but lies.

 

Kevin might be the watcher, but he might also be the PGO. We need to lynch Kevin to prove that I and Canik are town.

[KevinH]

We need to lynch Kevin to prove that I and Canik are town.

 
Canik is alread town in my mind. I already said that.
 

I believe Canik to have a high probability of being town.  If he was scum with iSocialism, then he would have known that I saw iSocialism deliver the kill.
It could be a preemptive attempt to get me lynched first before iSocialism but I think the scum would rather try for another power role than try to lynch a 1-shot watcher with his ability used up.

 

I suppose a scum would want to tie himself to Canik in hopes of avoiding a lynch.

 

care to explore on why you waited to tell the town about your role.

 
It seems obvious to me, but here's the response to your desperate questioning.

• You had voted to lynch a townie twice and were the best candidate to lynch, even without my evidence against you.
• If I had roleclaimed immediately, then the rest of your scum buddies would know that I was powerless and look elsewhere for the other power roles.
• Before Canik posted his results there was no need to roleclaim; after Canik posted his results, I was forced to roleclaim.

[Lachiton]

It's still speculation, one of you is lying. But then you say this

Kevin might be the watcher, but he might also be the PGO. We need to lynch Kevin to prove that I and Canik are town.

You just RCed 1 shot vig, so there can't be a PGO. You're definitely not helping yourself with these inconsistencies.

[brewersalliance]

It's still speculation, one of you is lying. But then you say this
 

Kevin might be the watcher, but he might also be the PGO. We need to lynch Kevin to prove that I and Canik are town.

You just RCed 1 shot vig, so there can't be a PGO. You're definitely not helping yourself with these inconsistencies.

 

great catch

[Canik]

It's still speculation, one of you is lying. But then you say this
 

Kevin might be the watcher, but he might also be the PGO. We need to lynch Kevin to prove that I and Canik are town.

You just RCed 1 shot vig, so there can't be a PGO. You're definitely not helping yourself with these inconsistencies.

 

​Good catch. He did claim specifically 1-Shot Vig in post #667 on page 34. He should know there isn't a PGO. Why would he claim something false tho? Makes so little sense..

 

[brewersalliance]

 

It's still speculation, one of you is lying. But then you say this
 

Kevin might be the watcher, but he might also be the PGO. We need to lynch Kevin to prove that I and Canik are town.

You just RCed 1 shot vig, so there can't be a PGO. You're definitely not helping yourself with these inconsistencies.

 

​Good catch. He did claim specifically 1-Shot Vig in post #667 on page 34. He should know there isn't a PGO. Why would he claim something false tho? Makes so little sense..

 

 

well i seemed like he was saying lynch kevin cause he will arm himself so if u target kevin at night u will die so we need to kill him now 

 

but since he is the vig there isnt a PGO

[iSocialism]

So then Kevin who are my scum buddies care to make a list for are you're fellow town to see?

[brewersalliance]

So then Kevin who are my scum buddies care to make a list for are you're fellow town to see?

you completely ignored the PGO slip up there... i saw you lingering on the page for a while, and with lach finding the slip up, this is all you have to say? 

also we heard from pretty much everyone on this except rafay (unless I missed his posts) 

[iSocialism]

You guys don't care about anything else right now. It s painful to keep talking to you guys

[brewersalliance]

You guys don't care about anything else right now. It s painful to keep talking to you guys

so just admit u are scum, so we can lynch you and then u wont have to talk to us any more lol jk

[Canik]

We are interested in seeing both sides of the coin, iSoc. Can't blame us for continuing to look at the side against you tho.

​The question of, if iSoc is scum, whose are his partners? Is not a bad one. It does seem virtually everyone is against him. Rafay came out against him at the start of the day so while some people link Rafay + iSoc for some reason I see Rafay + KevinH more linked.

​I think SBG may be the closest to defending iSoc of anyone with his Rafay redirect. Maybe VGM? It's been a while since he posted not sure what his stance on it was. I would be a possible candidate too but really I'm just trying to make absolutely sure we get the right guy. Anyway, I'm not a candidate in my own theory because I know I am town.. so that leaves me wondering, where ARE all of iSoc's scum buddies? I'd expect a little more resistent with what I'd assume is 3 alive scums.

​Anyway wouldn't hurt to research/speculate on that some either way because if he is indeed scum, we do want to know who his partners are.

[legoboyvdlp]

iSoc is just flailing now. I propose we lynch him, but in 6 days.

For the next 6 days try and PoE his partners.

[iSocialism]

Since I like you guys, how about you end the day now. Won't waste more time planning for nothing. All I know is you guys are CNN and Hillary in 2016 on November 6th. You're going to be very wrong, and feel very dumb the next day. I have done nothing more than my best to make sure the town lynch the right person. There's is no bad townie on my part. There will be no oh no, no not our faults. You're vote will not only be counted for the person you chose, but for yourself as well. You're accountable now for every word spoken and action taken. If town loses scum deserves very little credit. It's the town that will hand the win over. Canik your efforts now are the best the town has, but your time is short. Lucky the role blocker will take the hit tonight, Kevin will face the truth tomorrow, and your fate will be met n4. Though we don't know who has the n3 vig slot. Hopefully in the of a smart town member. Chances are slim though, for the smart part.

[brewersalliance]

All I know is you guys are CNN and Hillary in 2016 on November 6th.

sorry I had to do it lol