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[Lord MK]

Vote Count:

Vgmmaster (1): legoboyvdlp
iSocialism (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Lachiton (0):
Vgmmaster (0):
legoboyvdlp (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Brewersalliance (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: iSocialism, brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton, Robert2424

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 11th February 2018, at 10 am GMT.

[Robert2424]

Ok, so Isoc killed Rafay, and Keven was indeed mafia. meaning there is only 1 mafia left. So we have a good chance of winning this now. 

 

@vgm, what your current experience in mafia game. If I was the last scum, why in the world would MK put me up to give away the game? Trying to link me to killing Canik, is silly at best, when I was literally hiding when the gun shots were going. Not shooting. 

 

We can say Isoc is now confirmed town. I know I'm not scum, I can't even do anything. I'm wondering who Lego RBed. Theres no point  in leaving it hidden. 

 

So, given that, Rafay stayed off any wagon and didn't discuss either way. Turned out to be scum. Lach stayed on Isoc but is confirmed via our Cop ( he still might think Brewers is town vender, but I would imagine if he was, he would of targeted me by now).  brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster voted for Kevin. If we are going to believe the final scum decided to vote Kevin upon seeing town went against him. I would imagine it be one of the later votes. Meaning Scum is between these 3. Besides if your one of these people and your town, you can eliminate yourself and add me. 

 

Since I know I'm town, scum likely went onto the wagon near the end, so probally one of the last 3 votes. VGM hammered. SBG and lego. 

 

 

I'm going to throw this out here. If all roles are random, how likely is it scum gets a secondary Role. Like the N3 vig, fruit vender, or even the Roleblocker.....

The only reason why I mentioned it, looking at everything, Kevin was the Universal backup. Something more suited for town. If we all had equal oppertunity to grab roles, (Besides me), what are the chances?

[brewersalliance]

so im thinking the last scum probably voted for KevinH to try to bus away from him.  

 

 iSocialism- pretty sure he is town.  Im guessing he killed rafay (if someone else did please claim it) and kevin fingered him so im 95% sure he is town

Canik- dead and was town

brewersalliance- said rafay was scum since d2 so either i worked to lynch and kill two of my scum partners or im town

legoboyvdlp- gave a town vibe to me for a few days now.  would be shocked if hes scum.  but hey if he doesnt die tonight, odds are hes scum

SeaBeeGipson- very quiet until we found scum but hes been super busy in RL so it might not be because he is scum.  Still a suspect tho

Vgmmaster- only voted for kevin after vgm was for sure going to be lynched.  And vgm told lego who to role block, which could have been a ploy to make sure vgm could land the kill on canik.  I think the late vote could have been an attempt for him to bus away from Kevin.  also he suggested if both me and rafay live the night i could be scum or something which i thought made zero sense

 

FoS Vgm

[iSocialism]

As of right now, I'm leaning towards VGM.

 

Myself, and Lach or the only confirmed towns.

Strong town for Lego and Brewer

Robert rides on the town level too.

 

Leaving us with SBG and VGM.

from that VGM is my best scum pick.

[Robert2424]

Tbh, vgm could go either way. on my scum list. Seebee too inactive to be scum.  Brewer leaning town. Lach confirmed town. Then there is lego who feels town.

 

If I was going to make a case, I sure, could go with VGM, as everybody already leaning towards him. But if I was going to go into a hugely in depth analisis, I could go with.......Lego. 

[iSocialism]

I'm feeling iffy on lego as well. I wouldn't mind seeing an indepth analysis of him by someone else. This would help me out and let me see where I stand 

[Lord MK]

Vote Count:

Vgmmaster (1): legoboyvdlp
iSocialism (0):
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Vgmmaster (0):
legoboyvdlp (0):
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No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: iSocialism, brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton, Robert2424

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 11th February 2018, at 10 am GMT.

[Robert2424]

Well, if I was going to make a case against him, I think I have more to work with saying Lego might be scum. He's been apart of every single lynch, he's also been apart of both lynches that lynched town. We know the roles could go mafia, so its possible. I'm not disputing hes the Roleblocker. However, with my earlier analisis, Lego was also one of the last votes on Kevin. The lynch against Goldiron he was quiet, but decided at the end to jump on sure he was lynched. Canik jumped off witch was a town move, and Isoc did hammer him preserving the lynch. On day 2, he pushed hard on the TW lynch. Being very vocal to lynch somebody, I didn't see enough to lynch. 2 townies he was directly a driving force where on day one he was cautious but jumped in  trying to get the only lynch possilble, and on second, argubly the most vocal and honestly reason TW was lynched. Yesteday, joining near the end, could be railroading, I felt since the beggining he was going to go with whatever was the popular vote. If we are going to to say, it was both town only lynches on both the townie, it is unlikely. VGM was also not apart of either of the town lynches in comparison. 

 

GoldIron (4): The Warrior, Lachiton, legoboyvdlp, iSocialism

 

The Warrior (4):  Canik, Lego, iSocialism, Brewersalliance

 

Plus, there was the random spam posting on days not day 1. 

 

Thats qwite a bit more. I had to double check something. I mean, this is allot to Digest, but should be considered none the less. 

[Lachiton]

[ooc] Guys I will be away on 6th and 7th with no internet access. Probably I will start posting from 8th onwards [/ooc]

Here are my thoughts on the remaining players:

iSoc - Confirmed town, no doubt about that.

Brewers- Like me he was also on the trail of Rafay. Quoted some posts on Rafay where he was siding with Kevin to bring out the connection. Unless that is a huge game ploy, he is town. I swear if he turns out scum, I will be extremely shocked but would congratulate him for game well played.
Lego - feels town to me, considering he had now blocked Rafay twice and didnt block Canik once. I mean without Canik, Kevin would have gotten away for sure.

SBG - inactive but feels town. He was also one of the first to point out Kevin's reasoning sounds too good to be true and he doesn't believe it. Also cast his doubts on Rafay who turned out scum.

Robert - Not sure about him yet. He stayed out of the first two lynches and theres the flavor text connection again which I am not sure whats the connection there. 50/50 on him.

VGM - Same as Robert, stayed off the first two lynches. Did vote for Kevin but at that point Kevin was already going to be lynched. Also curious that given the track record of his in recent games, he is still alive . Now that proves nothing, but still something to note. Also I remember him saying how he hates Kitkat's play style and Kitkat ended up dead.

For me its either Robert or VGM.

[SeaBeeGipson]

I'll try to post my analyze/feelings towards everyone tomorrow I don't have time tonight but I am still here lol

[iSocialism]

Almost anyone on golds wagon is leaning town for me. Kevin hinted at lynching from the people on the wagon, and even suggested that there might be more than one on it. Maybe clever play by Kevin to cover one his if later was found out, but unlikely.

I was iffy on the scenario of Lego blocking Rafay, it could be easy to say so, but no real proof of it. Beside him saying that he did. I like the argument that he didn't block other people though. He could have blocked canik, however canik said he was going to track someone, which meant he wasn't going to track Kevin. Lego said he was going to block Rafay.. again. This could had made Kevin do the killing ....

In my mind I'm building a case for Lego both as his defense and prosecution.
He could had lied about blocking Rafay letting Rafay do the killing with pressure off. But why wasn't he blocking someone else such as canik, or myself. Why did Kevin do the killing the night before and not Rafay.
As I try to find a reason to lynch Lego it becomes hard to. I think he's town.
My next suspect would be brewer. He pretty much saved me, lead the town towards Kevin lynch. Maybe he did all this to earn town creed. Knowing Kevin was destined to be lynched and Rafay was under heavy suspicion. I would have done the same thing if I was "scum." Expect, no one would have blame him all that much if he got me lynch. Leaving the possibility of a one shot vig who was town though, would've made me lynch him/me.

Lach was called town by the cop.

Robert has been open minded, helping the discussion, though hasn't taken a strong stance in the days before IMO. Can't build a strong case for his lynch.

SBG was creating a case for Rafay before there was a discussion about him. Not a whole lot more to say.

VGM just hasn't been calling out town to me. Lots of talk but nothing that sticks out to me. I feel the town is leaning towards his lynch. I think he's on trail. With only being at one vote, I'll move it up to two to add the pressure.

VOTE VGM

[Lord MK]

Also curious that given the track record of his in recent games, he is still alive . Now that proves nothing, but still something to note.

 

 

lol, this one is funny.

i mean, come on.

vgmmaster is the first ever winner of mafia in IRON, and he should have stayed alive till the end to win those.

[legoboyvdlp]

Ok, so Isoc killed Rafay, and Keven was indeed mafia. meaning there is only 1 mafia left. So we have a good chance of winning this now.

@vgm, what your current experience in mafia game. If I was the last scum, why in the world would MK put me up to give away the game? Trying to link me to killing Canik, is silly at best, when I was literally hiding when the gun shots were going. Not shooting.

We can say Isoc is now confirmed town. I know I'm not scum, I can't even do anything. I'm wondering who Lego RBed. Theres no point in leaving it hidden.

So, given that, Rafay stayed off any wagon and didn't discuss either way. Turned out to be scum. Lach stayed on Isoc but is confirmed via our Cop ( he still might think Brewers is town vender, but I would imagine if he was, he would of targeted me by now). brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster voted for Kevin. If we are going to believe the final scum decided to vote Kevin upon seeing town went against him. I would imagine it be one of the later votes. Meaning Scum is between these 3. Besides if your one of these people and your town, you can eliminate yourself and add me.

Since I know I'm town, scum likely went onto the wagon near the end, so probally one of the last 3 votes. VGM hammered. SBG and lego.


I'm going to throw this out here. If all roles are random, how likely is it scum gets a secondary Role. Like the N3 vig, fruit vender, or even the Roleblocker.....

The only reason why I mentioned it, looking at everything, Kevin was the Universal backup. Something more suited for town. If we all had equal oppertunity to grab roles, (Besides me), what are the chances?

I RBed Rafay, which with flavor is why I think they have the N3 vig.
On holiday till 8th not much access

[brewersalliance]

in theory we can still have two miss lynches and win since its 6-1

miss lynch today makes it 4-1 tomorrow

miss lynch  tomorrow makes it 2-1

 

the only way i see town losing is if we get down to the final three people like that and its SBG, Robert and vgm, and there being no new evidence gathered during the day.  so i say we lynch vgm today, and then if hes not scum, robert tomorrow.  worst case that means there would be at least one confirmed/highly highly likely town left alive at the end

[Robert2424]

We could do that, besides me being lynched.

Though now I think of it, if Lego was scum he would of blocked isoc.

Given that. VGM is likely to be Lynched and he/she got quiet after people start voting VGM.

Best be apart of the Lynch.

VOTE VGM

Vote Count:
Vgmmaster (1): legoboyvdlp
iSocialism (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Lachiton (0):
Vgmmaster (0):
legoboyvdlp (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting: iSocialism, brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton, Robert2424
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 11th February 2018, at 10 am GMT.

VGM listed twice for some reason?

[vgmmaster]

It's not that I got quiet Robert with the pressure. Ever since a few weeks back, I've been quiet as a whole and not online as often (not just here) spending more time with my mom for RL reasons. It's why I've been scatterbrained a bit and inactive at times. Truth be told, after this game, I'll probably take a break from mafia as I don't feel I can dedicate the time necessary right now.

 

Sigh.


Vote: Vgmmaster

I meant a scum night 3 vig, fairly obviously, so your trying to evade that and not counting it as an option makes you look really suspicious. I feel you are the third scum.


And Kevin was not town. Kevin was scum.

Not sure how I typoed on Kevin there. Whoops.

 

As far as the night 3 vig goes, I misread your post there. That could be a viable strategy for scum. Have Rafay target a person and the third scum member target another. That way, at least one kill gets through. Wasn't something I thought of originally to be honest, but I could see it in retrospect.

 

 

Ok, so Isoc killed Rafay, and Keven was indeed mafia. meaning there is only 1 mafia left. So we have a good chance of winning this now. 

 

@vgm, what your current experience in mafia game. If I was the last scum, why in the world would MK put me up to give away the game? Trying to link me to killing Canik, is silly at best, when I was literally hiding when the gun shots were going. Not shooting. 

 

We can say Isoc is now confirmed town. I know I'm not scum, I can't even do anything. I'm wondering who Lego RBed. Theres no point  in leaving it hidden. 

 

So, given that, Rafay stayed off any wagon and didn't discuss either way. Turned out to be scum. Lach stayed on Isoc but is confirmed via our Cop ( he still might think Brewers is town vender, but I would imagine if he was, he would of targeted me by now).  brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster voted for Kevin. If we are going to believe the final scum decided to vote Kevin upon seeing town went against him. I would imagine it be one of the later votes. Meaning Scum is between these 3. Besides if your one of these people and your town, you can eliminate yourself and add me. 

 

Since I know I'm town, scum likely went onto the wagon near the end, so probally one of the last 3 votes. VGM hammered. SBG and lego. 

 

 

I'm going to throw this out here. If all roles are random, how likely is it scum gets a secondary Role. Like the N3 vig, fruit vender, or even the Roleblocker.....

The only reason why I mentioned it, looking at everything, Kevin was the Universal backup. Something more suited for town. If we all had equal oppertunity to grab roles, (Besides me), what are the chances?

 

I wasn't saying that you specifically killed Canik. What I was wondering is if maybe Rafay sent the kill and the third mafia member was in hiding. Just because you didn't do the kill yourself doesn't mean you weren't mafia. Of course, since then, Lego has claimed to have roleblocked Rafay, so that theory is out the window right now.

 

I'd agree with you that Lachiton is confirmed town and Isoc is as close to being town as they come without official confirmation. Everyone else is a complete crapshoot though.

 

For scum having a second role, I wouldn't say it's guaranteed, but I'd say there's a decent chance of it. Considering there's 8 roles and 11 townies, I'd say it's more likely for scum to have two power roles to balance it out a little bit, but hard to say.

 

so im thinking the last scum probably voted for KevinH to try to bus away from him.  

 

 iSocialism- pretty sure he is town.  Im guessing he killed rafay (if someone else did please claim it) and kevin fingered him so im 95% sure he is town

Canik- dead and was town

brewersalliance- said rafay was scum since d2 so either i worked to lynch and kill two of my scum partners or im town

legoboyvdlp- gave a town vibe to me for a few days now.  would be shocked if hes scum.  but hey if he doesnt die tonight, odds are hes scum

SeaBeeGipson- very quiet until we found scum but hes been super busy in RL so it might not be because he is scum.  Still a suspect tho

Vgmmaster- only voted for kevin after vgm was for sure going to be lynched.  And vgm told lego who to role block, which could have been a ploy to make sure vgm could land the kill on canik.  I think the late vote could have been an attempt for him to bus away from Kevin.  also he suggested if both me and rafay live the night i could be scum or something which i thought made zero sense

 

FoS Vgm

 

I didn't "tell" Lego to roleblock anyone specifically in the sense that he had to roleblock that person. In my mind, why not block the scum you know and let Canik track the third scum. That, or if you convince the scum that Rafay would be blocked, have Lego block someone else. A bit of a mindgame with the mafia if you will. There was a purpose there, even if it didn't pan out seemingly (of course, we still don't know if we have a night 3 vig technically).

 

And it's true that I was the final vote on Kevin. I won't hide that. I planned to vote at least, but I didn't forsee being quiet for almost a week. So while a lot of the talking was already done at that point, I still wanted my vote on record. Plus, it was better to hammer a vote just on the off chance both of Kevin's scum partners were already voting for him, although sitting at -1 would've been very risky for them.

 

[ooc] Guys I will be away on 6th and 7th with no internet access. Probably I will start posting from 8th onwards [/ooc]

Here are my thoughts on the remaining players:

iSoc - Confirmed town, no doubt about that.

Brewers- Like me he was also on the trail of Rafay. Quoted some posts on Rafay where he was siding with Kevin to bring out the connection. Unless that is a huge game ploy, he is town. I swear if he turns out scum, I will be extremely shocked but would congratulate him for game well played.
Lego - feels town to me, considering he had now blocked Rafay twice and didnt block Canik once. I mean without Canik, Kevin would have gotten away for sure.

SBG - inactive but feels town. He was also one of the first to point out Kevin's reasoning sounds too good to be true and he doesn't believe it. Also cast his doubts on Rafay who turned out scum.

Robert - Not sure about him yet. He stayed out of the first two lynches and theres the flavor text connection again which I am not sure whats the connection there. 50/50 on him.

VGM - Same as Robert, stayed off the first two lynches. Did vote for Kevin but at that point Kevin was already going to be lynched. Also curious that given the track record of his in recent games, he is still alive . Now that proves nothing, but still something to note. Also I remember him saying how he hates Kitkat's play style and Kitkat ended up dead.

For me its either Robert or VGM.

 

I'm just as confused as you guys that I'm still alive since I've died every night 1 since I've come back. After day 2 though, with Frigid's mistake and half the players roleclaiming, it makes sense that the mafia would focus on the power roles. I think day 2 may have thrown a wrench into their plans. With me being alive, this is just speculation of course, but I wonder if the mafia was going to use me as a scapegoat later in the game. Be all "how is vgm still alive? He always dies. Lynch him".

 

 

Also curious that given the track record of his in recent games, he is still alive . Now that proves nothing, but still something to note.

 

 

lol, this one is funny.

i mean, come on.

vgmmaster is the first ever winner of mafia in IRON, and he should have stayed alive till the end to win those.

 

 

First mafia game on record. Not the first IRON mafia game.

[vgmmaster]

Unless I'm mistaken, I'm at -1. Might as well claim at this point, although let's be honest, I don't see where it'll do me much good. That said, I am a vanilla townie. No power role whatsoever. Unfortunately Canik is dead so he wouldn't be able to verify I went nowhere last night if he survived the night. But before I am lynched if we indeed go that route, a few thoughts:

 

Canik claimed near the end of day 3 that tracking me would be a good idea. I mentioned in my last post above that I could be a mafia scapegoat with them keeping me alive up until now. Only way to me that killing Canik over Lego makes sense if they're both indeed town. As if Canik did truly track me last night, he could verify me, but the mafia wouldn't want that as a mislynch of me could be easy to accomplish.

 

Lego scares the shit out of me. The thing that worries me with him is what if as the roleblocker, he's making up his claims. Maybe night one he truly blocked Robert. But nights 2 and 3 he only claimed to block Rafay. "Blocking" scum makes him look good by default. Then there's the buddying up with Canik who tracked him night 1. Lots of ways for Lego to appear town to various people. He's playing his cards really well, but if Lego makes it to LYLO and is still alive, I'd say he's your final scum right there. I'd also be EXTREMELY cautious if there's a night where there's no kill as I'd worry Lego would claim to block someone for a free lynch and then back out of it by saying scum tricked him by not submitting a kill.

 

Also, if I was scum, truth is, I'd want to NK'd either Warrior or Brewers first. The latter a known veteran player and I've gotten the impression Brewers is good at what he does as well.

 

And besides, can I really be scum two games in a row? It's not like I'm the new SBG.

But for now, I need to go to bed before work. Here's hoping you all don't mislynch me by the time I wake up / come home from work.

[Lord MK]

Vote Count:

Vgmmaster (3): legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Robert2424
iSocialism (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Lachiton (0):
legoboyvdlp (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Brewersalliance (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is 11th February 2018, at 10 am GMT.

[Robert2424]

Indeed you are at l-1. And I agree, if Lego is scum he'd be in the position out of all of us to win as scum.

[brewersalliance]

Not Voting: brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton

 

 

So if VGM isnt scum, my guess is scum has already voted on him.  I dont think SBG is scum, and Lach is confirmed town, and I know my role.  

 

I do still think VGM is the most likely to be scum, but I dont want to end the day early.  ill go thru all the posts and see if anything jumps out at me after i finished snow removal