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[KevinH]

Ren: It's time to let old things die. Snoke...Skywalker...the Sith...the Jedi...the Rebels. Let it all die. Rey...I want you to join me. We can rule together and bring a new order to the galaxy!
Rey: [starting to tear up] Don't do this, Ben. Please don't go this way.
Ren: No, no. You're still...holding on! Let go! Do you want to know the truth about your parents? Or have you always known? You've just hidden it away. You know the truth. Say it. [Rey continues to tear up] Say it.
Rey: [tearfully] They were nobody.
Ren: They were filthy junk traders. Sold you for drinking money. They're dead in a pauper's grave in the Jakku desert. You have no place in this story; you come from nothing. You're nothing; but not to me. Join me. [he extends his hand towards Rey. She stares at him hesitantly in tears] Please...
 
Yehom, Lieutenant Kaydel Ko Connix, Town Jailkeeper, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 6.

Vote count:

The Warrior (0): 
Lachiton (0): 
Canik (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Jazzy95 (0): 
LordSunday (0):
Samus (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):
Kitkat16 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting:  Lachiton, LordSunday, The Warrior, Samus, Ali bin Turban, Kitkat16, Canik, Sister Midnight, Jazzy95, Brewersalliance,

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 29, at 08:00 EDT.

[Kitkat16]

Well there's a shock.

 

So. Anyone got any new information overnight?

[Canik]

I got nothin'. 

​Vote Samus

​Until he posts again or is replaced.

Oh yeah, just remembered something I wanted to say if I lived:

​I think name claims might mean something and would be worth for everyone to claim. Rhizo turning up Snoke, Imran was Luke.. so far good = good, evil = evil, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

[Samus]

Sorry for inactivity, I got stuck in Morroco.

 

So I targeted Sister Midnight, but she's still alive??

 

Did someone protect her last night then?

[Kitkat16]

Sorry for inactivity, I got stuck in Morroco.

 

So I targeted Sister Midnight, but she's still alive??

 

Did someone protect her last night then?

 

There's an insight I could make here, but I want to hear from SM first. Do you have an explanation for what Samus said, SM?

[Samus]

btw for anyone who still has doubts about my role.

 

ABT's role as a reloader would not make any sense if there were no other x shot townie roles.

 

Essentially his role and my own are basically a pair . If you think i'm scum, you think ABT is too. factz

[The Warrior]

First things first: I targeted Canik last night and he investigated as Guilty. This means that Canik has now returned guilty results to both an FBI Agent (Jazzy) and a Town Cop (me). I believe that this should 100% confirm Canik as being a Universal Miller and therefore he is Town.

 

@ABT - Did you reload Samus last night?

 

So we are now down a protective role and Samus claims to have targeted SM with a night kill so one of a few things must have occurred:

 

1) Samus is lying and didn't target SM.

2) There is a role blocker still in play (most likely a werewolf role blocker) who blocked Samus.

3) Yehom jailed Sister Midnight thus preventing her death.

4) There is a doctor in play who chose to protect SM.

 

 

 

Sorry for inactivity, I got stuck in Morroco.

 

So I targeted Sister Midnight, but she's still alive??

 

Did someone protect her last night then?

 

There's an insight I could make here, but I want to hear from SM first. Do you have an explanation for what Samus said, SM?

I'm intrigued by this and want to know what you know.

 

 

btw for anyone who still has doubts about my role.

 

ABT's role as a reloader would not make any sense if there were no other x shot townie roles.

 

Essentially his role and my own are basically a pair . If you think i'm scum, you think ABT is too. factz

I don't understand this point. Why wouldn't ABT's reloader role make sense? There have been numerous X-Shot abilities revealed already. Why would ABT's role make any less sense if you weren't actually the 1-Shot Vig that you claim to be?

Oh yeah, just remembered something I wanted to say if I lived:

​I think name claims might mean something and would be worth for everyone to claim. Rhizo turning up Snoke, Imran was Luke.. so far good = good, evil = evil, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

[brewersalliance]

First things first: I targeted Canik last night and he investigated as Guilty. This means that Canik has now returned guilty results to both an FBI Agent (Jazzy) and a Town Cop (me). I believe that this should 100% confirm Canik as being a Universal Miller and therefore he is Town.

 

@ABT - Did you reload Samus last night?

 

So we are now down a protective role and Samus claims to have targeted SM with a night kill so one of a few things must have occurred:

 

1) Samus is lying and didn't target SM.

2) There is a role blocker still in play (most likely a werewolf role blocker) who blocked Samus.

3) Yehom jailed Sister Midnight thus preventing her death.

4) There is a doctor in play who chose to protect SM.

 

 

 

Sorry for inactivity, I got stuck in Morroco.

 

So I targeted Sister Midnight, but she's still alive??

 

Did someone protect her last night then?

 

There's an insight I could make here, but I want to hear from SM first. Do you have an explanation for what Samus said, SM?

I'm intrigued by this and want to know what you know.

 

 

btw for anyone who still has doubts about my role.

 

ABT's role as a reloader would not make any sense if there were no other x shot townie roles.

 

Essentially his role and my own are basically a pair . If you think i'm scum, you think ABT is too. factz

I don't understand this point. Why wouldn't ABT's reloader role make sense? There have been numerous X-Shot abilities revealed already. Why would ABT's role make any less sense if you weren't actually the 1-Shot Vig that you claim to be?

Oh yeah, just remembered something I wanted to say if I lived:

​I think name claims might mean something and would be worth for everyone to claim. Rhizo turning up Snoke, Imran was Luke.. so far good = good, evil = evil, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

Im def curious if anyone protected/healed SM.  Samus has already lied in this game about his role, so it would not shock me if he lied about targeting SM.  It would be nice to have ABT confirm that he reloaded Samus last night.  I am guessing Samus would not be able to use an action until ABT actually did the reload, im sure this was already discussed but I probably missed it lol

 

There is also the possibility of there being a 1-shot bullet proof WW.  Perhaps that is why SM survived that attack by Samus.

[Ali bin Turban]

@ABT - Did you reload Samus last night?

 

Did I reload Samus?...I don't really remember if I did or not. Samus, did you get your skill reloaded?

1) Samus is lying and didn't target SM.

2) There is a role blocker still in play (most likely a werewolf role blocker) who blocked Samus.

3) Yehom jailed Sister Midnight thus preventing her death.

4) There is a doctor in play who chose to protect SM.

 

I don't think 4 is true, so there are just those 3 options. Doctor would rather target someone more obvious for the scum to hit.

[The Warrior]

 

@ABT - Did you reload Samus last night?

 

Did I reload Samus?...I don't really remember if I did or not. Samus, did you get your skill reloaded?

Considering the fact that Samus claims to have targeted SM last night I am assuming Samus believes he was reloaded.

[Canik]

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

​You would think that but.. there was a scum (Rafay, I think) who was pressed and claimed Yoda which was then counter-claimed by AbT. Plus some others seem reluctant to name claim. So maybe they don't have safe names to claim. I say we try it and if we get some info great, if we get no info, all we would have lost is a little time.

[The Warrior]

 

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

​You would think that but.. there was a scum (Rafay, I think) who was pressed and claimed Yoda which was then counter-claimed by AbT. Plus some others seem reluctant to name claim. So maybe they don't have safe names to claim. I say we try it and if we get some info great, if we get no info, all we would have lost is a little time.

It may not hurt to try but I think it's more likely that:

 

1) Rafay was the only scum who didn't receive a fake claim

or

2) Rafay gambled with a good name that is much more well-known but was hardly actually in the Last Jedi. He may have thought the risk of someone counterclaiming the name was low enough to try.

[brewersalliance]

 

 

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

​You would think that but.. there was a scum (Rafay, I think) who was pressed and claimed Yoda which was then counter-claimed by AbT. Plus some others seem reluctant to name claim. So maybe they don't have safe names to claim. I say we try it and if we get some info great, if we get no info, all we would have lost is a little time.

It may not hurt to try but I think it's more likely that:

 

1) Rafay was the only scum who didn't receive a fake claim

or

2) Rafay gambled with a good name that is much more well-known but was hardly actually in the Last Jedi. He may have thought the risk of someone counterclaiming the name was low enough to try.

 

I think its point 2. I dont see Kevin giving everyone but Rafay a fake name to claim.  that wouldnt make sense to me.  as for the second, everyone knows Yoda is good, so it was a risk hoping no one else would counter it 

[The Warrior]

 

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

​You would think that but.. there was a scum (Rafay, I think) who was pressed and claimed Yoda which was then counter-claimed by AbT. Plus some others seem reluctant to name claim. So maybe they don't have safe names to claim. I say we try it and if we get some info great, if we get no info, all we would have lost is a little time.

 

Here's another reason why I don't think anything will be learned from simple name claiming:

 

We know that "mass role-claiming" is not allowed because it could break the game. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Kevin did say earlier in the game that he would allow "mass name-claiming". Why would mass name-claiming be allowed but mass role-claiming wouldn't be? Probably because mass name-claiming would NOT break the game. In other words, everyone probably has a good name to claim and nothing would be learned from it that would break the game.

 

What we really need at this point is the following:

1) Clarity on whether or not ABT reloaded Samus. Samus claims that he targeted SM. This means that Samus is claiming to have been reloaded. Was he really reloaded? If ABT confirms that he did NOT reload Samus it means that Samus lied about targeting SM.

2) What does Kitkat know about Samus supposedly targeting SM?

3) If Samus is a 1-shot Vig and was reloaded, what stopped his shot? Did Yehom jail SM? Was Samus role blocked by someone else?

4) Does anyone else have any other useful information from last night?

[brewersalliance]

@kevin, if you are reloaded, are you told that you are reloaded? 

[Kitkat16]

 

 

This is almost certainly not going to be helpful. It is extremely likely that all scum members were given a safe name claim. They would just give their safe claim and we would learn nothing.

​You would think that but.. there was a scum (Rafay, I think) who was pressed and claimed Yoda which was then counter-claimed by AbT. Plus some others seem reluctant to name claim. So maybe they don't have safe names to claim. I say we try it and if we get some info great, if we get no info, all we would have lost is a little time.

 

Here's another reason why I don't think anything will be learned from simple name claiming:

 

We know that "mass role-claiming" is not allowed because it could break the game. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Kevin did say earlier in the game that he would allow "mass name-claiming". Why would mass name-claiming be allowed but mass role-claiming wouldn't be? Probably because mass name-claiming would NOT break the game. In other words, everyone probably has a good name to claim and nothing would be learned from it that would break the game.

 

What we really need at this point is the following:

1) Clarity on whether or not ABT reloaded Samus. Samus claims that he targeted SM. This means that Samus is claiming to have been reloaded. Was he really reloaded? If ABT confirms that he did NOT reload Samus it means that Samus lied about targeting SM.

2) What does Kitkat know about Samus supposedly targeting SM?

3) If Samus is a 1-shot Vig and was reloaded, what stopped his shot? Did Yehom jail SM? Was Samus role blocked by someone else?

4) Does anyone else have any other useful information from last night?

 

 

Re #2, as I said, I'll answer that question once we hear from SM. 

[KevinH]

@kevin, if you are reloaded, are you told that you are reloaded? 

 

Yes

[Samus]

 

@ABT - Did you reload Samus last night?

 

Did I reload Samus?...I don't really remember if I did or not. Samus, did you get your skill reloaded?

 

1) Samus is lying and didn't target SM.

2) There is a role blocker still in play (most likely a werewolf role blocker) who blocked Samus.

3) Yehom jailed Sister Midnight thus preventing her death.

4) There is a doctor in play who chose to protect SM.

 

I don't think 4 is true, so there are just those 3 options. Doctor would rather target someone more obvious for the scum to hit.

 

I submitted my night action and was told I would be notified if I had been reloaded.

 

Night ended and I was informed thereafter that SM is still alive. To answer your question, yes I was reloaded.

 

Also there has been several nights where mafia have had no kills. There was one night when we still had all 3 factions and no one was killed during the night, what makes you so sure there isn't a doctor at play? Your logic is true, but on the flip side, scum would probably be smarter to target townies who are MORE likely not to be protected as it gives them a higher chance of success, reason why you and me probably are still alive now. So in a sense it could make sense SM was protected by a doc and I wouldn't want to rule it out completely

[brewersalliance]

To answer your question, yes I was reloaded.

 

 

Well ABT did you reload Samus or is he lying?  

Did I reload Samus?...I don't really remember if I did or not. Samus, did you get your skill reloaded?

 

 

This honestly makes me think that ABT did not reload Samus, and ABT was just trying to bait Samus into lying.  So as of right now, I do not trust Samus at all.  Would love some confirmation from ABT on this, but to me this totally seems like bait.  How could one forget.  You can legit just check your messages you sent to Kevin to see if you did.  

 

vote: Samus 

[Samus]

To answer your question, yes I was reloaded.

Well ABT did you reload Samus or is he lying?

Did I reload Samus?...I don't really remember if I did or not. Samus, did you get your skill reloaded?

This honestly makes me think that ABT did not reload Samus, and ABT was just trying to bait Samus into lying. So as of right now, I do not trust Samus at all. Would love some confirmation from ABT on this, but to me this totally seems like bait. How could one forget. You can legit just check your messages you sent to Kevin to see if you did.

vote: Samus

If ABT didn’t reload me, he would have called me out on it when I said I targeted SM.

You’re just pushing to lynch me, which is scummy to me cause you’re not looking at facts.