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[KH-19]The Last Jedi Mafia, Town Wins

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I just read through previous posts to catch up and here's some of the key points I noticed, (paying extra attention to the CoD wagon because I was confused on why it started.)

CoD made TWO posts today I seen before the wagon started. TWO! Post #260 - regarding Lego's RC and how it could be scum trying to get some RCs out of people. Even if it isn't, his RC only works when people roleclaim so scum will just keep him alive and wait for RCs.

Second post (#296) he unvotes Lego, mentioning hes doubting fake claims could happen so early.

A back and forth? Yes. Something scum would notice and pick up instantly? Yes.

Here's the breakdown of the wagon starting.


1st Vote: Samus (Post 312) based on the presumption that the SK can actually be a pro-town vig and would work with a X-Role reloader. CoD's vote on Lego (which was removed prior to this vote by Samus) seems to be my understanding of his vote.

2nd Vote: Canik (directly after Samus) stating his vote on Samus was to poke inactives. He refutes Samus's FoSing him by removing his vote from Samus and placing it on CoD to test how confident Samus is. Seriously a scum move Canik.

3rd Vote: Imran (here lies our scum.) He says CoD's post are "off" and believes Lego is town AFTER Samus posts. Of course, he does mention Lego might be town prior, as well as Brewers AFTER the discussion began to die down regarding these two. Nothing of value to add during the heat of the discussion regarding Lego? Instead you poke Brewers over his claim, and poke me over stating a SK might not exist because my doubt he'd kill N1, but you leave Lego untouched? and place a vote on CoD (a possible wagon now) with the reasoning that his whole TWO posts are off? Nice slip-up mate.

4th vote: Lego. Literally no reasoning provided by Lego.. None.

VOTE IMRAN

FoS Lego, Canik, and Samus (moreso Canik than the others)

Nice to also mention in Post 302 Imran mentions how Lego's RC deteriments town if he is town, but feels strongly enough that Samus is right about lego being town to vote CoD?

Also nice to notice his post voting LS. You poke LS, Samus, SM, and CoD to 'poke inactives'. I'm certain we have a scum distancing himself from a scum here. Question is, which of the one (or more) is he distancing himself from?

 

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Also nice to notice his post voting LS. You poke LS, Samus, SM, and CoD to 'poke inactives'. I'm certain we have a scum distancing himself from a scum here. Question is, which of the one (or more) is he distancing himself from?

 

I also noticed that post, which I found interesting considering that I made a specific post about the fact that I wouldn't be able to contribute in the beginning week and would definitely be back

 

For reference:

 

 

 

Just so everyone is aware, in a couple of days I am going on holiday for about a week. I'll have internet access but only from my phone, so my posts here will be more sporadic than usual.

 

Also this ^

I will be on a cruise from the 14th to the 21st, so my activity in the first week of D2 will be sporadic at best, if there is any at all.. Just know now I will come back and participate in the second-half of the day. I'm not going to be lurking and will catch myself up when I get back :)

 

 

I will park my suspicions of brewers for the moment.

 

Unvote

 

Lets bring out the lurkers or lynch them -> LordSunday and Samus. COD and SM are also very quite.

 

Vote: LordSunday

That's an excellent point SeaBee. Also Imran was the one who pressured brewers into spilling his role. Brewers did give him an opportunity for that though so not sure whether Imran intentionally trapped brewers into RC. Brewers was actually baiting someone to ask more bout his role, so I am yet to be convinced it was all an innocent mistake on his part. But definitely good point about Imran, especially him jumping on CoD wagon. Let's hear more from him before I make up my mind.

FoS Imran

 

 

2nd Vote: Canik (directly after Samus) stating his vote on Samus was to poke inactives. He refutes Samus's FoSing him by removing his vote from Samus and placing it on CoD to test how confident Samus is. Seriously a scum move Canik.


Helped stir the pot, didn't it? Would just unvoting or poking another inactive really have been that much better for town? I don't think so. 

​And the vote wasn't really part of the refute. It's something I did after to test Samus' confidence and his accuracy as a scum hunter. His confidence annoyed me because I had just lead a mislynch in the other game so I wanted to put his accuracy to the test. See how he does.. and it's not looking real great so far. 
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"You wonder why I keep a rabid cur in such a position of power? A cur's weakness, properly manipulated, can be a sharp tool." -Supreme Leader Snoke

Vote count:

Chaplain of Death (3): Samus, Canik, Imran Ehsan,
Brewersalliance (2): Yehom, Lachiton,
Samus (2): Brewersalliance,  Chaplain of Death,  
Imran Ehsan (2): SeaBeeGipson, Legoboyvdlp,
Legoboyvdlp (1): Kitkat16,
Rafay (1): Lord MK,
Canik (1): Robert2424,
LordSunday (0):
Jazzy95 (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Kitkat16 (0):  
Lord MK (0):
iSocialism (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Lachiton (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):  
Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Jazzy95, Rhizoctonia, iSocialism, Rafay, Sister Midnight, LordSunday,

 

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch, or 5 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, January 29 at 12:00 EST

 

I actually agree with Samus. lego doesnt look scummy to me, more like an over-excited noob townie. 

 

CODs posts have been a little off. Also him trying to start to wagon on one of the potential lynch targets from D1. Lets see where this goes.

 Unvote

 Vote: COD

I'll do this:

 Vote: CoD

I just want to make sure I'm following this correcting. No one has any idea what type of scum CoD is (maf, SK, etc.), there's just a consensus that they're bad?

Preety much yes, Jazzy95.

What exactly seems off to you? I’ll be honest, I went back several pages and I can’t even find CoD’s recent posts.That question was directed to everyone who voted for him, not just the ones I quoted.

Actually, I’m still waiting to hear from everyone I mentioned above.

I was sheeping on COD as this game is very boring and slow compared to my other two current games, I am kind of not kltivated about this one.

Thats a terrible reason to vote for someone.

 

 

Actually, I’m still waiting to hear from everyone I mentioned above.


​I voted for him to give Samus a hard time, basically. But his reasoning seemed decent enough, about as good as any other reason anyone has come up with. That reasoning being that Lego seems town so it's a little odd for CoD to push for his lynch. The fact that CoD unvoted before somewhat sullies the reason, perhaps. It will be interesting to see what my master does now.

Btw did no one else notice CoD OMGUS voted? Just want to make sure that was noted. Felt weird that no one had mentioned it. xD

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I actually agree with Samus. lego doesnt look scummy to me, more like an over-excited noob townie. 

 

CODs posts have been a little off. Also him trying to start to wagon on one of the potential lynch targets from D1. Lets see where this goes.

 Unvote

 Vote: COD

I'll do this:

 Vote: CoD

I just want to make sure I'm following this correcting. No one has any idea what type of scum CoD is (maf, SK, etc.), there's just a consensus that they're bad?

Preety much yes, Jazzy95.

What exactly seems off to you? I’ll be honest, I went back several pages and I can’t even find CoD’s recent posts.That question was directed to everyone who voted for him, not just the ones I quoted.

Actually, I’m still waiting to hear from everyone I mentioned above.

 

 

I was simply asking for clarification, no accusations were made in the making of my post.

 

Vote Samus

This the second time you're voting for me in a single day. Getting desperate?

Interesting how the 2 biggest lurkers in the game show up at the exact same time. Seems a bit too suspicious to me.

I do agree with this though.

even though the day is boring, we can still get a slip up.

 

we can pressure players, do many stuff.

 

a very good strategy by whoever killed last night was taking out TW early in the game, he is one of those players who actively hunt.

agreed

 

 

 

I never voted for you before now? I know you've been inactive but you might want to look through the entire thread before making 100% false statements.

 

 

Btw did no one else notice CoD OMGUS voted? Just want to make sure that was noted. Felt weird that no one had mentioned it. xD

 

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Except there is legit suspicion to be had when 2 massive lurkers suddenly show up together like that, and just to try to push a wagon on someone over simply making a vote and then changing it. You are still correct though, I did vote back on the person who voted for me, my reasoning is just somewhat more than simply, "you voted for me therefore you must be scum!"

 

 

3rd Vote: Imran (here lies our scum.) He says CoD's post are "off" and believes Lego is town AFTER Samus posts. Of course, he does mention Lego might be town prior, as well as Brewers AFTER the discussion began to die down regarding these two. Nothing of value to add during the heat of the discussion regarding Lego? Instead you poke Brewers over his claim, and poke me over stating a SK might not exist because my doubt he'd kill N1, but you leave Lego untouched? and place a vote on CoD (a possible wagon now) with the reasoning that his whole TWO posts are off? Nice slip-up mate.

 

I never felt like lego is scum. So normally anyone trying to build a wagon on him..thinking an easy town lynch is very suspicious to me. So all that back and forth aboutr lego being scum was not convincing to me..it was more who was pushing for his lynch. COD was quick on the lego wagon..so of course he is on my scum list.

 

Now I see a quick little wagon forming on me based on this post..now to look closely at those who are trying to form the wagon there.


based on SBG's post i meant ^


 

 

I also noticed that post, which I found interesting considering that I made a specific post about the fact that I wouldn't be able to contribute in the beginning week and would definitely be back   For reference:

 

I actually forgot you made that post. Two biggest lurkers at that moment were Samus and LS in my book. I could have voted for either, I chose you because I voted Samus on D1 and Samus would be moaning about how I am trying to lynch him if I voted him a second time. So my vote went on you.


Good points by SBG on Imran. 

 

VOTE: IMRAN

 

Convince me who else I should vote for Imran

 

wow..you are worse than Rafay. Kindly elaborate which of the points by SBG are "good". and your last line makes no sense.

 

At this point I am thinking the town is better of if you get lynched..even though I am sure you are town.


SBG does bring up a really solid case against Imran

 

FoS Imran 

 

Beg to differ. He is completely wrong and makes a very flimsy case with no basis. So either he is scum or he is not really good at this game.


Damn, SeaBee.
You bought up a very good point.

FoS: Imran

 

Kindly elaborate the "good" point. So you want to get on the wagon with no reason but you are not thinking it may look scummy. Either vote to lynch and elaborate why you think I am scummy and say who you think is scummy.

 

Your post is a typical scum post.

 

FOS: MK


That's an excellent point SeaBee. Also Imran was the one who pressured brewers into spilling his role. Brewers did give him an opportunity for that though so not sure whether Imran intentionally trapped brewers into RC. Brewers was actually baiting someone to ask more bout his role, so I am yet to be convinced it was all an innocent mistake on his part. But definitely good point about Imran, especially him jumping on CoD wagon. Let's hear more from him before I make up my mind.
FoS Imran

 

I didnt pressure him. Brewers revealed that on his own.

 

I am not getting what this "good" point is that everyone is parroting about. My reasons for voting COD have been clearly explained previously and also again in this post. 


After SBG’s post Imran is on the hot seat with me, as well. Imran what do you say to all of us who are fingering you?

 

Right. You asked what I meant when I said something about CODs posts are off. I have played with him quite a few times and I know how he posts. His posts in this game have been a little off which is suspicious to me. Normally he comes up with good reasons and makes deductive posts on who may be scum. But in this game I see him jumping quickly on an obvious townie wagon with not much explanation. that is off.

 

 

At this point I am thinking the town is better of if you get lynched..even though I am sure you are town.
 

 

So either he is scum or he is not really good at this game.


 

Your post is a typical scum post.


So, over half the wagon on you is scum? It couldn't possibly be that you are the scum coming under fire?

Ignoring the "points" presented as invalid, and not "good" instead of addressing the points clearly presented in front of you aren't helping either.

 

I never felt like lego is scum

Yet, in this same exact post you're willing to lynch him because he is throwing suspicion on you?

The points were presented right in front of your face. It isn't hard to read and see what I stated.

You say hes off after TWO posts. You ignore Lego until recently yet seem to be centered on Brewers and for a short bit, you tried myself as well with the SK comments. 

As far as your comments about not voting Samus as the inactive joke, because he would moan and complain? Wouldn't that raise his activity? Isn't that the goal of an inactive vote? Or were you hoping to get a wagon going on LS and hopnig he'd be too inactive to save himself, but you knew Samus would be able to pop on and refute your inactive vote?

Keep going by the way. The hole just gets deeper as you go. I'd be extremely surprised if you aren't scum at this point.

I don't really feel motivated by people's arguments to throw my vote in on this wagon. Cause most of it is "I agree".,

 

I didn't like it either at first, hence why I waiting to see what Imran would respond, but he definitely did not help his case when he comments:

 

 

 

I never felt like lego is scum. So normally anyone trying to build a wagon on him..thinking an easy town lynch is very suspicious to me.

 

Then later (in clear reference to lego):

 

 

 

At this point I am thinking the town is better of if you get lynched..even though I am sure you are town.

 

Then again:

 

 

 

Right. You asked what I meant when I said something about CODs posts are off. I have played with him quite a few times and I know how he posts. His posts in this game have been a little off which is suspicious to me. Normally he comes up with good reasons and makes deductive posts on who may be scum. But in this game I see him jumping quickly on an obvious townie wagon with not much explanation.

 

The wagon Imran referred to at the end of that post (if I'm not mistaken) was again the lego wagon. So even though twice in that post he made it clear that he believes whole-heartedly that lego is town, he still says he should be lynched because "the town would be better off." Since when has the town ever been better off if one of us dies?

 

His entire post to me felt less like explaining and more like "Well there no way I'm scum so all of you must be." Imran's definitely not ringing town to me right now, and so far has become the best candidate for lynch

 

 

Vote: Imran Ehsan

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