What was Lego's role?

 

FOS Jazzy.

I don’t know your fancy abbreviations yet.

Vote: No-Lynch.

 

Pointless to continue on with the day since we know that both are townies. Right?

Vote: No-Lynch.

 

Pointless to continue on with the day since we know that both are townies. Right?

this is really scummy, tell us Rafay, why do you want night so badly?

Hey there TW v2

 

Samus is right that just because the lynch options are bad doesn't mean we should be giving up on the day. We can still have discussion and gather more info to work with tomorrow

 

 

Hey there TW v2   Samus is right that just because the lynch options are bad doesn't mean we should be giving up on the day. We can still have discussion and gather more info to work with tomorrow

 

 

 

this is really scummy, tell us Rafay, why do you want night so badly?

 

I was simply stating that since it was established that we weren't going to lynch and both people turned up to be town so we might conclude. 

I personally think its up in the air. I'm not satified that either are town. I'm going to do this  because its better then doing nothing. 

 

Vote Brewers

Away till 8th

Vote on no lynch today

Hey there TW v2

 

Samus is right that just because the lynch options are bad doesn't mean we should be giving up on the day. We can still have discussion and gather more info to work with tomorrow

I'm back and better than ever baby! Thanks for letting me back in Kevin!

 

I have been trying to follow this game still since the demise of Poe Dameron (God rest his soul) but it's a little bit difficult when you aren't involved anymore so I feel slightly out of the loop. I will read back through as much of the thread as I can though to try to catch up. In the meantime, can someone give me a brief summary of the big highlights of the last two days?

 

Was it ever confirmed that both of the day's lynch options (Brewers and Canik) are both town or is that just speculation?

 

I do not agree with anyone who votes to end the day early. This is the time to press people. If the decision is to no-lynch that's fine, but why the rush to end the day early?

 

Looking at you Lego, Brewers, and Rafay.

Vote Rafay

"Finn, let me learn you something big: It's all a machine, partner. Live free. Don't join." -DJ

Vote count:

Brewersalliance (1): Robert2424,
Canik (0):  


No Lynch (3): Legoboyvdlp, Brewersalliance, Rafay,

Not voting: Jazzy95, LordSunday, SeaBeeGipson, Canik, Sister Midnight, Yehom, Lachiton, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, Samus,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 14, at 23:00 EST
 
Samus' vote on Rafay does not count.

 

 

Was it ever confirmed that both of the day's lynch options (Brewers and Canik) are both town or is that just speculation?

 

never confirmed either of us are town no, so just speculation  

if we are both town and you guys decided that you need to lynch one of us, rather than a no lynch, I would recommend me since im virtually a slightly more powerful VT and canik might be a better power role

So I'm back from vacation.  Looks like for the  second straight night we have 3 kills per night.  Unless there's something really funky going on for which I'm not sure is possible without literally going through every role on the greater mafia list, I don't see how twice in a row we could have 3 kills without there being a SK.

 

Now there's a new role that has appeared, which is the gladiator for which Robert has since roleclaimed as, and Kevin has came out saying that the gladiator role is in fact a town role, thus saying Robert is in fact a townie, unless someone RC's they're the Gladiator.  

 

I don't see the benefit of the role personally, as it merely limits who we can look to lynch which to me only hinders town.  That being said, it was used, and we have a verified town in Robert, and we have two options.  Just because we have two options doesn't mean scum hunting can't be done as well outside of those two to help tomorrow's lynch, but again, being that there's only two people it greatly reduces the efficiency in scum hunting.

So our options are Canik and Brewers.  

I have to look back through Canik's posts and see what I can gain from them.  My focus yesterday with the limited information we had was focused elsewhere.  As I stated yesterday, Brewers messed up his RC, and due to that pretty much made him a VT if his power is merely immunity against SK's.  Him telling everyone basically that means if he is in fact telling the truth, his only help is a vote for lynch now, as an SK isn't going to target him.  It was also safer to lynch Brewers yesterday then Imran, as I stated at the worst we lost a VT.  If he's telling the truth, we verify for sure there is likely a SK, and we can look at those on his wagon as the possible SK since an SK would need him lynched during the day to be able to kill him since they couldn't at night (outside of a werewolf/mafia killing him which they don't need to if he's no threat to them).  I also mentioned that there's a possibility that Brewers IMO could in fact be the SK, where he was given the fake RC of immunity to SK, which allows him to look town coming out early providing helpful information to the town there's a SK, but also diverting any attention that he's the SK with claiming immunity.  As I believe Lach mentioned, if he's the SK, claiming with information he has also diverts attention from the mafia and werewolves from targeting him because he's not a threat to them.  Instead, people followed Sea on Imran's wagon, for which most people voting Imran put 0 of their own input on why he should be lynched outside of saying Seabegibson's points were good.  That right there was a concern, and we in fact lost a very important role (though unless we had a doctor, Imran likely would of been killed last night anyway).

So out of the two, right now I'm looking at Brewers, but again I need to look at Canik more.  I don't think we should be ending the day early however, and those looking to is scummy to me.  

And uhhh Samus...what was that vote?  You can't vote for Rafay, so what was that?

 

 

If he's telling the truth, we verify for sure there is likely a SK, and we can look at those on his wagon as the possible SK since an SK would need him lynched during the day to be able to kill him since they couldn't at night

 

 

very good point, so me dying isnt that bad of a thing for town.  which is why i partially support lynching me (tho i would prefer to live but it might be more beneficial for me to die lol)

I'm guessing there are many anti town roles. Would ww count as sk or another mafia though?

I think it's safe to assume that we have at least three anti-town factions in the mafia, ww, and sk after two nights with 3 deaths

Yes, but would Warewolf be by himself, or with partners?

[ooc] I will be out on 6th and 7th with no internet access. Probably will start posting again on 8th onwards. [/ooc]

 

I agree we should not end day early, even if we are convinced that we have caught scum. Taking cues from the other mafia game, not ending the day early saved the town from a well setup mislynch. Also don't like the fact people are pushing speculations as fact, like brewers and Canik are town. They are in no way confirmed town so saying that multiple times without concrete reasoning or evidence might misguide other townies. They can be possible town, not confirmed, that distinction is necessary.

I have already made my points against brewers and as far as Canik is concerned I dont have enough on him to classify him either town/scum. Anyways hope when I come back there might be some lead worth looking into.

Yes, but would Warewolf be by himself, or with partners?

 

Werewolf probably has partners. I'd guess 2-3 werewolf. 3 mafia. 1 SK.

 

​I am finding SK more likely each night 3 kills happens. Though someone did say Supersaint means you can kill someone when you die? If that's true + with the cupid role the night before it still may be a possibility there is no SK. But throw in Brewers roleclaim as well and I lean towards SK being in the game.

This can't be simple can it....

 

Yes, but would Warewolf be by himself, or with partners?

 

Werewolf probably has partners. I'd guess 2-3 werewolf. 3 mafia. 1 SK.

 

​I am finding SK more likely each night 3 kills happens. Though someone did say Supersaint means you can kill someone when you die? If that's true + with the cupid role the night before it still may be a possibility there is no SK. But throw in Brewers roleclaim as well and I lean towards SK being in the game.

 

 

Supersaint redirects to Vengeful on Mafia Wiki: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vengeful_(role)

 

 

 

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose).

if that was the case, sister midnight would dead. 

In that case I'd say there is a very high probability of there being an SK then. Thanks for clearing up the Supersaint role, LS.

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of course there's an SK, FoS everyone who is even still debating it

if that was the case, sister midnight would dead. 

 

I believe that ability only is activated when the person with supersaint is lynched

 

@KevinH can you confirm a supersaint power only works when the supersaint is targeted or is it with any lynch?

I think that it's without question at this point that a serial killer exists. With multiple factions and 3 kills at night a couple times it makes sense for there to be one. Another thing to be considered here is that a serial killer could have been given an interesting immunity according to the Greater Ideas Mafia thread:

1. Serial Killer (Two-shot Bulletproof)
2. Serial Killer (Immune to Mafia kills)
3. Serial Killer (Immune to Werewolf kills)
4. Serial Killer (Immune to Alien & Replicant kills)

If the serial killer has a particular immunity (to mafia or to werewolf kills) it would probably be on the town to find him and lynch him rather than hoping one of the killing factions hits him.

 

It is also interesting that there have been multiple people with "cop" roles revealed thus far:

-ABT (Jack-of-All-Trades)

-Imran (Seer)

-Chaplain of Death (Cop-of-All-Trades)

 

This isn't necessarily uncommon with so many factions in play however. Has anyone gone back yet and looked at any thoughts put forward by these three regarding specific players? It would be a good idea to see if they dropped any hints on anyone's potential alignment. If it hasn't been done yet, I'll try to look into this.