Woah!!! I just leave for a couple of hours and suddenly a wagon has formed w/ no proof.

 

The game has devolved into a roleclaim-fest. I wanted to defend myself but I didn't want to roleclaim. 

 

But since it has come to that I'm going to that but I don't know who the SK is.

 

I'm Master Yoda, a town doctor. Last night I saved Samus.

 

On D1 it was Brewsers, on D2 it was Rhizo.

 

That is my defense.

That sounds weak as shit, I'm sorry, but you have to have something better than that right?

Be interesting to hear from Kevin what he'd do in regards to a Hider had he/if he implemented the role into the game and the hider targeted a werewolf.  Would hider be killed, or would it act the same as if he targeted a town?

 

The Hider will die if he visits Mafia, Werewolf, Alien, or Serial Killer.

 

The role is described as Weak and Weak page says the player dies "if targeting a mafia-aligned or otherwise anti-Town player".

Well we know for sure either Jazzy or Rafay are lying now. (see Kitkat, we did get some more info without lynching me )

​Right now I am leaning heavily towards Rafay being the liar because Jazzy's claim is very believable and it's hard to see how it'd be worth it for him to lie. Even if a scum rolecop saw Rafay was a doctor.. the scum teams are thinned down they can't afford to kamikazi like that.

​Whereas Rafay, if he is a doctor, it's unfortunate for him because doctor seems like a decent claim for scum to fake. Just list people who are still alive and say you protected them. Might be a bit risky in that the real doctor could counter-claim but a doctor would not want to reveal himself and shouldn't unless it's absolutely necessary.

​If you do have more arguements tho Rafay, we'd like to hear them.
 

 

Worried a little, was I, for RCing as a watchlisted townie, Rafay could (role that's returning false information to the FBI agent). But made it easy for us, it seems he has.  
Virtually impossible for Jazzy to come out and lie about his findings, it is. For what, hmm?  To kill a lurker, hmm?. Then die the next day after exposed his lie was?

Other than that, the Yoda, I actually am. Yes, hmmm.

 

Interesting it seems, that a safe name Rafay did not get. Was this the way treated the other scum got?

Worried a little, was I, for RCing as a watchlisted townie, Rafay could (role that's returning false information to the FBI agent). But made it easy for us, it seems he has.  

Virtually impossible for Jazzy to come out and lie about his findings, it is. For what, hmm?  To kill a lurker, hmm?. Then die the next day after exposed his lie was?

 

Other than that, the Yoda, I actually am. Yes, hmmm.

 

Interesting it seems, that a safe name Rafay did not get. Was this the way treated the other scum got?

 

o_O

 

Why did he even claim the name Yoda in the first place given that we were explicitly told names had nothing to do with our alignment? (i.e. you could have a mafia Yoda)

 

Also lol. I enjoyed your post.

Haha, reading AbT's post in Yoda's voice was funny as hell.

I was worried too that we got a watchlisted townie instead of SK but I guess Rafay didn't chose to go that route as he knows he's gonna get lynched either way, similar to a case when somebody claims Miller. The risk is too high to not lynch. But whatever role Rafay claims, we will all believe Jazzy as he has much more to lose than gain by going after a lurker. 

So the equation is simple, tiny possibility that Rafay flips town, Jazzy has sealed his fate. But very unlikely to happen. I sincerely hope though we will see more of Rafay now then we saw him the entire game.

So if we lynch Rafay and he’s being truthful, then Ali and Jazzy look like scum/lycan. I don’t see a downside to lynching Rafay given that if he’s innocent we get two anti townies outed. No one else should role claim without a very good reason at this point.

 

Also, a funny post from Ali, chuckle I did.

Yes if Rafay flips town surely Jazzy is scum. But how Ali is outed as scum too? Am I missing anything here?

Yes if Rafay flips town surely Jazzy is scum. But how Ali is outed as scum too? Am I missing anything here?

 

Um..... this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-4/page-33?do=findComment&comment=939341

 

Edit: stupid BBCode thing isn't working.

 

Yes if Rafay flips town surely Jazzy is scum. But how Ali is outed as scum too? Am I missing anything here?

 

Um..... this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-4/page-33?do=findComment&comment=939341

 

Edit: stupid BBCode thing isn't working.

 

Nope. Still dont get it. AbT says he doesn't believe Rafay, just like many of us. That doesn't mean whoever doesn't buy Rafay's weak defense is scum too.

 

 

Yes if Rafay flips town surely Jazzy is scum. But how Ali is outed as scum too? Am I missing anything here?

 

Um..... this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-4/page-33?do=findComment&comment=939341

 

Edit: stupid BBCode thing isn't working.

 

Nope. Still dont get it. AbT says he doesn't believe Rafay, just like many of us. That doesn't mean whoever doesn't buy Rafay's weak defense is scum too.

 

 

Rafay is claiming to be Yoda. AbT is claiming to be Yoda. If Rafay flips town, he will probably have disclosed his correct name. In which case, AbT is probably scum.

 

 

 

Yes if Rafay flips town surely Jazzy is scum. But how Ali is outed as scum too? Am I missing anything here?

 

Um..... this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-4/page-33?do=findComment&comment=939341

 

Edit: stupid BBCode thing isn't working.

 

Nope. Still dont get it. AbT says he doesn't believe Rafay, just like many of us. That doesn't mean whoever doesn't buy Rafay's weak defense is scum too.

 

 

Rafay is claiming to be Yoda. AbT is claiming to be Yoda. If Rafay flips town, he will probably have disclosed his correct name. In which case, AbT is probably scum.

 

Oops I misread that. I thought he was making fun of Rafay. I get it now. Thanks!!

Yeah, I’d say it is a win for town either way. Rafay = scum, confirms Jazzy as town. Rafay = townie, Jazzy is definitely anti town and ABT probably is anti town.

Yeah, I’d say it is a win for town either way. Rafay = scum, confirms Jazzy as town. Rafay = townie, Jazzy is definitely anti town and ABT probably is anti town.

 

There's no way in hell Jazzy is deliberately lying. It could be that Rafay has some sort of special role that messes with the read that Jazzy got, but we should find that out when he gets lynched. In any event, I doubt it.

ali confirmed town now sister midnight. 

I don't see a reason to believe Rafay's claim, especially since a confirmed town has stated he lied about his role name

Woah!!! I just leave for a couple of hours and suddenly a wagon has formed w/ no proof.

 

The game has devolved into a roleclaim-fest. I wanted to defend myself but I didn't want to roleclaim. 

 

But since it has come to that I'm going to that but I don't know who the SK is.

 

I'm Master Yoda, a town doctor. Last night I saved Samus.

 

On D1 it was Brewsers, on D2 it was Rhizo.

 

That is my defense.

Well Mafia didn't kill anyone so it's very likely a doctor did protect me/someone, so it is believable..

 

But "i've been gone a couple of hours"? Sorry don't buy that, you've been gone the entire game mate, just sounds like a desperate excuse to stay alive.

If he's telling the truth, he's dead, if he's lying he's dead. 

Rafay is not telling the truth. If he were that would mean:

 

1. Jazzy is lying. Why would he?

2. I'm lying. Why would I, assuming I'm a town? And if I'm not a town how would I know that Robert was reloaded?

3. Why would 2 scum sacrifice themselves to kill Rafay? Is he some sort of mafia mastermind with an amazing role, that cann't be nightkilled?

 

BTW, since Rafay didn't got a safe name, Samus past claim to be Obi-Wan Kenobi, a Nurse is more believable. And at the same time, I'd like to ask Jazzy a question:

 

What's your name? You didn't say it, just mentioned your role.

 

 

 

 

Yes if Rafay flips town surely Jazzy is scum. But how Ali is outed as scum too? Am I missing anything here?

 

Um..... this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/61143-kh-19the-last-jedi-mafia-day-4/page-33?do=findComment&comment=939341

 

Edit: stupid BBCode thing isn't working.

 

Nope. Still dont get it. AbT says he doesn't believe Rafay, just like many of us. That doesn't mean whoever doesn't buy Rafay's weak defense is scum too.

 

 

Rafay is claiming to be Yoda. AbT is claiming to be Yoda. If Rafay flips town, he will probably have disclosed his correct name. In which case, AbT is probably scum.

 

Oops I misread that. I thought he was making fun of Rafay. I get it now. Thanks!!

 

​I missed that too, glad you said something.

 

​Considering that yeah really looks like Rafay is lying. If not, AbT & Jazzy would by lying which would just be so stupid on their part it can't be true.

 

Rafay is not telling the truth. If he were that would mean:

 

1. Jazzy is lying. Why would he?

2. I'm lying. Why would I, assuming I'm a town? And if I'm not a town how would I know that Robert was reloaded?

3. Why would 2 scum sacrifice themselves to kill Rafay? Is he some sort of mafia mastermind with an amazing role, that cann't be nightkilled?

 

BTW, since Rafay didn't got a safe name, Samus past claim to be Obi-Wan Kenobi, a Nurse is more believable. And at the same time, I'd like to ask Jazzy a question:

 

What's your name? You didn't say it, just mentioned your role.

Rey

Sorry that I have not been able to post before now since the start of the new day. My laptop died and I left the charger at work over the weekend. Well done to any of our power roles who could have prevented any kills from occurring last night! 

 

As for Jazzy's claim and Rafay's defense, it is incredibly difficult to believe that Jazzy would be the one lying in that scenario. Rafay's play style would normally bode well for having such a role but not so much recently as many people view it as toxic to a town's efforts. Sorry mate but I don't think a defense of "thinking I'm scum (SK) just because I was scum in the last X number of games I played like this is foolish" is going to work either. 

 

@ABT - I enjoyed reading your post as well but I am asking for clarification on it just to be certain. Are you actually claiming that you (Lego) were given the name Yoda and therefore refuting Rafay's claimed name?

 

The town only stands to gain from lynching Rafay today in my opinion. At best we take out the serial killer and clear Jazzy and ABT. At worst we lose a claimed doctor who would die tonight anyway now that he has claimed doctor. And if Rafay is the serial killer (which I believe he is), it is likely that he needs to be lynched in order to be removed from the game. As I mentioned yesterday, it is probable that the serial killer has a modifier of some kind (2-shot bulletproof, immune to mafia kills, immune to werewolf kills) that helps make him immune to night kills anyway. Removing him during the day via lynch is probably the easiest way to get rid of the serial killer.

 

Vote: Rafay

Is there any reason to keep the day going? Also, I am not sure of the latest vote count.

The reason for not ending the day early would be to see how everyone reacts to the day's events so far and push those who haven't responded to respond. Particularly those who haven't commented on Rafay's defense.

 

@Rhizo - What do you make of Rafay's defense?

 

 

 

Unofficial Vote count:

Rafay (5): Jazzy95, Lachiton, Robert2424, LordSunday, The Warrior
Yehom (0):  
Canik (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Jazzy95 (0): 
LordSunday (0):
The Warrior (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Samus (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):
Kitkat16 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Lachiton (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Rhizoctonia, Ali bin Turban, Kitkat16, Yehom, Rafay, Sister Midnight, Canik, Samus, Brewersalliance, 

 
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, March 3, at 07:00 EST.