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[KH-19]The Last Jedi Mafia, Town Wins

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Yes, but would Warewolf be by himself, or with partners?


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I agree we should not end day early, even if we are convinced that we have caught scum. Taking cues from the other mafia game, not ending the day early saved the town from a well setup mislynch. Also don't like the fact people are pushing speculations as fact, like brewers and Canik are town. They are in no way confirmed town so saying that multiple times without concrete reasoning or evidence might misguide other townies. They can be possible town, not confirmed, that distinction is necessary.

I have already made my points against brewers and as far as Canik is concerned I dont have enough on him to classify him either town/scum. Anyways hope when I come back there might be some lead worth looking into.




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Yes, but would Warewolf be by himself, or with partners?

 

Werewolf probably has partners. I'd guess 2-3 werewolf. 3 mafia. 1 SK.

​I am finding SK more likely each night 3 kills happens. Though someone did say Supersaint means you can kill someone when you die? If that's true + with the cupid role the night before it still may be a possibility there is no SK. But throw in Brewers roleclaim as well and I lean towards SK being in the game.



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This can't be simple can it....


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Yes, but would Warewolf be by himself, or with partners?

 

Werewolf probably has partners. I'd guess 2-3 werewolf. 3 mafia. 1 SK.

​I am finding SK more likely each night 3 kills happens. Though someone did say Supersaint means you can kill someone when you die? If that's true + with the cupid role the night before it still may be a possibility there is no SK. But throw in Brewers roleclaim as well and I lean towards SK being in the game.

 

 

Supersaint redirects to Vengeful on Mafia Wiki: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vengeful_(role)

 

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose).

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if that was the case, sister midnight would dead. 


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In that case I'd say there is a very high probability of there being an SK then. Thanks for clearing up the Supersaint role, LS.



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of course there's an SK, FoS everyone who is even still debating it


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if that was the case, sister midnight would dead. 

 

I believe that ability only is activated when the person with supersaint is lynched

 

@KevinH can you confirm a supersaint power only works when the supersaint is targeted or is it with any lynch?


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I think that it's without question at this point that a serial killer exists. With multiple factions and 3 kills at night a couple times it makes sense for there to be one. Another thing to be considered here is that a serial killer could have been given an interesting immunity according to the Greater Ideas Mafia thread:

  1. Serial Killer (Two-shot Bulletproof)
  2. Serial Killer (Immune to Mafia kills)
  3. Serial Killer (Immune to Werewolf kills)
  4. Serial Killer (Immune to Alien & Replicant kills)

If the serial killer has a particular immunity (to mafia or to werewolf kills) it would probably be on the town to find him and lynch him rather than hoping one of the killing factions hits him.

 

It is also interesting that there have been multiple people with "cop" roles revealed thus far:

-ABT (Jack-of-All-Trades)

-Imran (Seer)

-Chaplain of Death (Cop-of-All-Trades)

 

This isn't necessarily uncommon with so many factions in play however. Has anyone gone back yet and looked at any thoughts put forward by these three regarding specific players? It would be a good idea to see if they dropped any hints on anyone's potential alignment. If it hasn't been done yet, I'll try to look into this.


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if that was the case, sister midnight would dead. 

 

I believe that ability only is activated when the person with supersaint is lynched

 

@KevinH can you confirm a supersaint power only works when the supersaint is targeted or is it with any lynch?

 

 

Correct. If the player with Supersaint is lynched, the last player that voted and made it a majority (the hammer) is killed.

 

Note that my interpretation is that a player that makes it half-majority thus causing a deadline lynch is not a hammer in this case; I could see it interpreted otherwise, though.



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We might be looking at 2 or 3 from tw. Alien hasn't popped up yet. Unless there 4 scum factions......

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We might be looking at 2 or 3 from tw. Alien hasn't popped up yet. Unless there 4 scum factions......

Correct, I doubt Alien will pop up though. I just copied that section straight out of the Greater ideas Wiki. If the SK has a modifier it is likely to be 1-3 and most likely to be #2 or #3. That is all speculation of course. I was just pointing out that it's a possibility and we shouldn't expect the mafia to handle such a role, assuming it exists.


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And uhhh Samus...what was that vote?  You can't vote for Rafay, so what was that?
 

his notion to end the day early is scummy to me. I know my vote doesn't count though



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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
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Yehom, Rafay, Jazzy y'all have been awfully quiet. Tell us what have you and your scum buddies been planning?

 

Also at this rate, maybe we need to start revealing roles.

 

We have 14 players left, out of which - if we're assuming 2 scum teams + 1 sk, with either 2/3 scum on each scum team. That puts us at a max of 7 scum players, 3 have now been evicted. So there's potentially 3-4 left.

 

Meaning 10/11 remaining players are townies.

 

This game won't last 2 more nights for the town at this rate, if we don't help to take out scum.

 

So I propose in the effort to help the town win this game, we need to start exposing our roles and or last nights actions.

 

For the sake of town winning, i'll start:

 

i'm Obi-Wan Kenobi, a Town Nurse.



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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
Player of Mafia; Master Samus/emudevelopment (shared); I think both were instrumental in the town’s defeat. Both were manipulative and deceptive. They clearly came out as pro-town and looked like de-facto town leaders. They led the lynch wagon w/o anyone uncovering their true motives.

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Yehom, Rafay, Jazzy y'all have been awfully quiet. Tell us what have you and your scum buddies been planning?
 
Also at this rate, maybe we need to start revealing roles.
 
We have 14 players left, out of which - if we're assuming 2 scum teams + 1 sk, with either 2/3 scum on each scum team. That puts us at a max of 7 scum players, 3 have now been evicted. So there's potentially 3-4 left.
 
Meaning 10/11 remaining players are townies.
 
This game won't last 2 more nights for the town at this rate, if we don't help to take out scum.
 
So I propose in the effort to help the town win this game, we need to start exposing our roles and or last nights actions.
 
For the sake of town winning, i'll start:
 
i'm Obi-Wan Kenobi, a Town Nurse.

mass claiming isn't allowed.......

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At this rate, nobody is going to share their actions. and then in 2 nights town loses.

 

If nobody shares information, the game is already lost.

 

We don't need to mass role claim then, but nobody is really trying to talk?



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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
Player of Mafia; Master Samus/emudevelopment (shared); I think both were instrumental in the town’s defeat. Both were manipulative and deceptive. They clearly came out as pro-town and looked like de-facto town leaders. They led the lynch wagon w/o anyone uncovering their true motives.

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I guess I muted the town with my night action, not the effect I wanted at all. must of been in the fine print. use your night action people get quiet. 


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Since we have nothing to go from expect the ones that voted for Imran:

 

SeaBeeGipson The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Lord MK, Canik, Robert2424, Legoboyvdlp, Sister Midnight,
 

Let me start saying that i didn't like SBG's post that prompted the wagon to begin with. The accusations made from that post were based hot air and people fell for it blindly. Just a nod, no arguments as to why SBG was right, just that he sounded right. Though I can't immediately project all SBG's posts on TW, I am however wary as to what he has to say.

Brewers to me is so 50/50. A SK has been confirmed last night, he could have a role like he said he has, but the way he out of the blue just announced that, including his 'immunity' to the SK, makes me wonder why he would play it like that. There is no good way to explain that, so quite frankly I believe Brewers should just RC right now. The cat was already out of the bag to begin with, better to commit, let us see what he has to say, whether it is believable etc. The SK already knows anyway not to kill Brewers, should his claim be the truth. 

MK was revealed to be scum

Canik is on the chopping board as we speak, as of now I see no real reason for the gladiator to choose him, but he did anyway so that can't be helped. I personally think Canik is more likely town

Robert has RC'ed to be the gladiator. Because nobody has counterclaimed that, I'm going to assume that statement is true which means Robert is 100% confirmed town

Lego has been off lately. His role claim was weird, but some what defendable, however his voting pattern has been really off last day. He jumped wagons a couple of times, which makes you wonder whether his role claim is true or not. Reloader is also a very easy power role to buff.

SM I have no read on. Voting was off obviously, jumping in last second, confused about deadlines etc. Could be an honest mistake, but could be played stupidity too. Can't quite make out what it is exactly, but I feel that Lego was a bit more off.  


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Agreed with Yehom. Brewers, you should be roleclaiming, now.


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