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[Ali bin Turban]

If you were pressuring others, I might have simply not noticed that, especially given I wasn't playing quite a bit of time. You may point me to that moments any time you want to show me my errors.

 

Secondly you've almost stayed low on D2. You've not made a move just until the very end, just as if you were waiting for someone else to jump the wagon. Sitting on a CoD's wagon just to say 7 hours before deadline, that you find Imran very scummy and changing your vote (BTW what did you have against CoD, that even though Imran seemed very scummy, you were still voting CoD till the last moment?).

 

Anyway 7 hours before deadline none of the wagons is reaching its cap and it's the last call for the scum, if they want to see town lynched.

 

Imran Ehsan (4): SeaBeeGipson, Legoboyvdlp, Brewersalliance, Lord MK,
Chaplain of Death (3): Samus, Canik, Imran Ehsan,
Brewersalliance (3): Yehom, Lachiton, Kitkat16,

 

In that situation I find it perfectly possible for you make a quick argument to look valid, abandon a wagon that probably won't work and secure the lynch. If you were a town, why would you wait so long? Why would you sit on CoD's wagon instead (what were his "crimes"?)?

 

And ironically, just a day after you've mislynched a town, you're lecturing others about failing when scumhunting.

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As for brewers, yes, his reply is worse, but do you insist I should judge him and you on just one action?

Brewers has made many mistakes, but at the same time he has done other things (roleclaiming) that put him in a different light and suggest that his actions are just the ones of an inexperienced newbie. Are you an inexperienced newbie too? You're an expert, aren't you? So I'm analyzing your actions in a different way.

[Canik]

If you were pressuring others, I might have simply not noticed that, especially given I wasn't playing quite a bit of time. You may point me to that moments any time you want to show me my errors.

​Well, as I said I don't apply extreme pressure all over the place at random. However in D2 I started voting Samus to put a little pressure & encourage posting hopefully. Samus criticized voting on inactives (tho IMO if you have no leads it's better than sitting around with no vote) and said something about his votes being more serious. What you need to understand here is that I had just lead a mislynch on TW in the Pick Your Power game and at the time things seemed to be going very poorly so I was frustrated, didn't really want to take the lead again, didn't have any real leads so I figured I'd just follow Samus. See how he does.

​He did make a decent case against CoD although it was still highly speculative. It was as good as any other theories at the point so I followed and voted for CoD. Which added pressure against him. So that's 2 pressures applied.

​Then the Imran wagon gained some momentum and Imran roleclaimed. I made a couple of posts questioning Imran and his logic (applying pressure in my book), I wanted to go ahead and switch votes but wanted to keep following Samus if possible. That's why I waited until so close to the deadline.

​Oh and today of course I put some pressure on Jazzy, Kitkat, Rafay and to some extent SBG/TW questioning the motives behind his orginal Imran accusations. Or 'casting shade' as TW might call it.

​So that's at least 7 people I've applied some amount of pressure to in the past day and a half. Don't ask for post links, go back and find them yourself or wait for people who've been here to confirm. I'm not digging through for all the links.

And ironically, just a day after you've mislynched a town, you're lecturing others about failing when scumhunting.

​Not lecturing, just looking on the bright side in the scenerio that I am lynched.

As for brewers, yes, his reply is worse, but do you insist I should judge him and you on just one action? Brewers has made many mistakes, but at the same time he has done other things (roleclaiming) that put him in a different light and suggest that his actions are just the ones of an inexperienced newbie. Are you an inexperienced newbie too? You're an expert, aren't you? So I'm analyzing your actions in a different way.

​No I don't insist on judging us on just one action. I was fine with your explaination the first time you gave it but you asked why I found it funny in the first place so I answered. 
 

[KevinH]

Luke: Now that they're extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified. But if you strip away the myth and look at their deeds, the legacy of the Jedi is failure. Hypocrisy, hubris.
Rey: That's not true!
Luke: At the height of their powers, they allowed Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire, and wipe them out. It was a Jedi Master who was responsible for the training and creation of Darth Vader.

Vote count:

Brewersalliance (1): Robert2424,
Canik (1): Ali bin Turban 


No Lynch (2): Brewersalliance, Rafay,

Not voting: Jazzy95, LordSunday, SeaBeeGipson, Canik, Sister Midnight, Yehom, Lachiton, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, Samus,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 14, at 23:00 EST

[Kitkat16]

Alright. I think it's more advantageous to the town to lynch today than to not. I have no idea whether Canik is town or not. But I'm pretty sure Brewers IS town. Therefore, I'm going to place my lynch on Canik.

 

Vote: Canik

[Samus]

Alright. I think it's more advantageous to the town to lynch today than to not. I have no idea whether Canik is town or not. But I'm pretty sure Brewers IS town. Therefore, I'm going to place my lynch on Canik.

 

Vote: Canik

how is it?

 

We only have 2 choices, both which there are very flimsy cases against.

 

3 dead tonight is better than 4 atm and 3 people are going tonight.

 

My biggest scum target is Rafay, unfortunately I can't vote for him. Or he may just see this and get his buddies to kill me

[Kitkat16]

 

Alright. I think it's more advantageous to the town to lynch today than to not. I have no idea whether Canik is town or not. But I'm pretty sure Brewers IS town. Therefore, I'm going to place my lynch on Canik.

 

Vote: Canik

how is it?

 

We only have 2 choices, both which there are very flimsy cases against.

 

3 dead tonight is better than 4 atm and 3 people are going tonight.

 

My biggest scum target is Rafay, unfortunately I can't vote for him. Or he may just see this and get his buddies to kill me

 

 

Simply because we can then analyse the wagon. The more information we have to go on, the better. Then again, you might have a point in that with three more people down tonight statistically we have a greater chance of hitting scum tomorrow. But we won't have any more information to go on.

[KevinH]

"My worthy apprentice, son of darkness, heir apparent to Lord Vader. Where there was conflict, I now sense resolve. Where there was weakness, strength. Complete your training, and fulfill your destiny." -Supreme Leader Snoke

Vote count:

Canik (2): Ali bin Turban, Kitkat16,
Brewersalliance (1): Robert2424,


No Lynch (2): Brewersalliance, Rafay,

Not voting: Jazzy95, LordSunday, SeaBeeGipson, Canik, Sister Midnight, Yehom, Lachiton, Rhizoctonia, Samus,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 14, at 23:00 EST

[Canik]

Lynching me could provide a little information perhaps but nothing solid. And it is possible we get more info tomorrow since this is a role madness game. Two investigators may already be dead but there could still be something like tracker/watchers still out there. Plus a bit of info perhaps from the night kills.

[Robert2424]

UNVOTE

for now. I need to catch up.

[Yehom]

Vote Brewers

 

I still feel that there is absolutely no reason why he hasn't fully role claimed yet. Your power is already known to the SK, he's not going to target you. Making that known to everyone and everybody without any reason or pressure on you was stupid, or maybe just a play. Yes you could just give a name that is on whatever list, however you run the risk that someone else has that name, so I do fully believe that without a role claim, I can't trust Brewers 100%. If he turns out to be whatever he claims to be, I can prove next day that I'm not the SK, like he wants to suggest. 

[brewersalliance]

I already told you what my role does. If u need to know what it's called just scroll thru the list of roles until you find it as there is only one role listed that does what mine does. You have been pushing a Lynch of me this entire time since u found out the sk can't kill me. Only reason to do that is either you think I just decided to make this entire thing up and draw attention to myself or you are the sk. My money is on you are the sk
So if you don't believe me just try to kill me tonight and find out for yourself

[Yehom]

You have been pushing a Lynch of me this entire time since u found out the sk can't kill me.

That's the thing though. I didn't find out anything, you just shouted it into the open world yourself, but for some reason you can only say A, but can't say B. What are you hiding?

[brewersalliance]

Hiding? Nothing at all. Let's say im making this all up. Where would I have gotten the role from? Kevin's list. So I could easily just post the name of the role and a star wars character name , say it's me and go from there.
Please explain to me how me stating the name of the role is going to miraculously make you Change your mind that was made up like 150 posts ago

[Robert2424]

Yeah. I think he just wants to know your role.

Also with anti town falling, nobody can say for sure how many deaths there will be. 3 is high. We might have vigs, they could shoot. We could have docs or role blockers. You can't say for sure unless you know something that most people don't.

[brewersalliance]

We have already established my claim was "stupid" and I see why everyone says that, and it seems everyone has come to the conclusion that my claim was most likely just that-a stupid townie mistake. Well everyone but one person-Yehom.

If you are town, thinking it's just a stupid mistake on my part is completely acceptable

If you are mafia or a WW, you can also be fine with saying it's a dumb town mistake and not push for my Lynch as lynching a different person could yeild killing a power role as I pose no threat to either faction

If you are the sk you need me to be lynched and having the consensus be that it was a stupid mistake by me as a new player and nothing more is the last thing the sk wants since the only way they can kill me is with a lynch so the sk needs the town to think I'm scum.

Now of all the roles there is only one role that can't say "Brewers made a dumb mistake as a new player". Only one role has to say "Brewers is scum because of his mistake" and that's the sk..and we have only one player sticking to the "Brewers is scum because of his role call," and that player is yehom

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck guess what... It's a duck

[Robert2424]

*Robert dresses in a duck costume* "quack!" (Sorry I had to).

I'll be a bit honest. I haven't actually looked at what you claimed........

[brewersalliance]

It was a while back, near the beginning of d2

[The Warrior]

Personally, I don't really care whether you say your official role title or not, but I don't blame anyone for questioning you about it either.

[Yehom]

I at least have ways to back my actions when push comes to shove. You on the other hand are just throwing out statements like omg he has to be the SK, because he wants me dead. The moment someone asks you to verify your claim, you get all antsy to 100% clear all doubt. You honestly believe that, if I were to be the SK, I would be stupid enough to expose myself this early? You keep saying that SK can't kill you, yet you're so reluctant to reveal what you are exactly. Why shouldn't town believe you are the SK instead? 

[brewersalliance]

i dont get how me saying the name of my role when you legit already know what it is will " 100% clear all doubt".  like i said before, how would me telling you the name of the role that you know I already claimed make you change your mind?  it wouldn't.  and like i said before, even if I was lying, I could just scroll thru the list and say the name of it.  And if you are the SK, of course you would say "I would not be that dumb to do that"

 

so please correct me if any of this is wrong:  you want me lynched because I said the SK cant kill me,  because you saw no point in the role claim, and now you are saying if i say the name of the role that you know I am going to say since Kevin posted the list of roles and there is only one role in it that says immune to SK kills, that will make you no longer think i am suspect and it would "clear me"?