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[Kitkat16]

 

there's a simple way to clear this up
 
KevinH please clarify
...... Oh. I just rechecked my role PM, and it said nothing about being one-shot. I thought I was one-shot and wasn't. I suppose you'll just assume that I'm a werewolf one-shot bulletproof though. I'm really, really not. It was an honest mistake. Oh well. When you find out that I'm telling the truth tonight, please lynch Lach and LS tomorrow and the day after that.
 
(This was a separate post but it has merged into the "please clarify" post...)

What exactly is your role claim?

 

 

Bulletproof Townie.

[brewersalliance]

But then how does that explain you saying Kevin said you could be killed by WW and the sk when the role pm says you are immune to all knight kills and Kevin stated he did not modify any roles? Because that would be modifying a role

[Kitkat16]

But then how does that explain you saying Kevin said you could be killed by WW and the sk when the role pm says you are immune to all knight kills and Kevin stated he did not modify any roles? Because that would be modifying a role

 

Now on this one, I'm on solid ground.

 

KevinH Please explain.

[Canik]

I see you Jazzy

​Name-claim? Thoughts on stuff?

[KevinH]

Phasma: [contemptuous] You were always scum.
Finn: [proudly] Rebel scum.
 
One-shot Bulletproof Townie is not on the list at Greater Idea Mafia
 
I'm won't get into confirming or not confirming roles other than to say that if you look back to what I said it included some room for interpretation and don't exactly say exact.

Vote count:

Lachiton (3): The Warrior, Kitkat16, Samus,
Kitkat16 (2): Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance,
Brewersalliance (1): Canik, 
Sister Midnight (0):
Samus (0):
The Warrior (0): 
Canik (0):
Jazzy95 (0): 
LordSunday (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting:  Lachiton, LordSunday, Sister Midnight, Jazzy95, 

 

Consider this vote count official as of now. As I went through it, I had an unvote when I didn't see a previous vote and vote for a second time on the same player. If I missed something, please just make the vote again.
 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 29, at 08:00 EDT.

[Kitkat16]

Phasma: [contemptuous] You were always scum.
Finn: [proudly] Rebel scum.
 
One-shot Bulletproof Townie is not on the list at Greater Idea Mafia
 
I'm won't get into confirming or not confirming roles other than to say that if you look back to what I said it included some room for interpretation and don't exactly say exact.

Vote count:

Lachiton (3): The Warrior, Kitkat16, Samus,
Kitkat16 (2): Ali bin Turban, Brewersalliance,
Brewersalliance (1): Canik, 
Sister Midnight (0):
Samus (0):
The Warrior (0): 
Canik (0):
Jazzy95 (0): 
LordSunday (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting:  Lachiton, LordSunday, Sister Midnight, Jazzy95, 

 

Consider this vote count official as of now. As I went through it, I had an unvote when I didn't see a previous vote and vote for a second time on the same player. If I missed something, please just make the vote again.
 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 29, at 08:00 EDT.

 

 

"I'm won't get into confirming or not confirming roles other than to say that if you look back to what I said it included some room for interpretation and don't exactly say exact." ----- This good enough for you, Brewers? It essentially confirms that there's some flexibility around what Bulletproof Townie means exactly. If it's not good enough for you, I'll pressure Kevin to clarify further. () But surely if it were absolutely clear that Bulletproof Townie protected me from werewolf night kills, Kevin would have said so.

[Ali bin Turban]

Kitkat messed up his RC, but there are things to consider:

 

Firstly:

- We had a guy immune to werewolves kills only

- We have a guy immune to SK kills only

In this light having a guy immune to Mafia kills only makes sense. It also means that we probably don't have a doctor (since we also got other protective role - jailer).

 

Secondly:

I think Kitkat didn't lied but just got mistaken. When he presented KevinH explanation, he mentioned: "You are totally bulletproof against the Mafia proper and vigilantes."

Totally means totally, not just for one occasion. Why would he so carefully craft that statement suggesting he's not just one shot and then said he's one shot?

 

Thirdly:

He tried to see if SM would lie about her survival (I think hoping her to say she's bulletproof). He wouldn't do it if he was a scum, because he couldn't counter her claim.

 

While his play wasn't really townish I don't think he's a scum.

 

unvote

[Kitkat16]

praise the lord

 

brewers hurry up and unlynch me before lach and LS dogpile me

[brewersalliance]

Ok I just scrolled back and found Kevin's post. I was slightly mistaken as Kevin didn't say he wouldn't modify roles, but rather he did not change their alignment. And with what he said, Kevin left it ambiguous if he modified the roles or not. I understand why he did that because answering the question in any way with a yes or no would basically confirm KitKat is either town or scum and I don't think Kevin wants to do that.

Deadline isn't for another 5 days, so I am keeping my vote where it is for now, as I am not completely sold, and if scum wants to jump on and dogpile more power to them. At least it would help make it more obvious who they are

[The Warrior]

  <--- Me on the Enterprise when reading KitKat's role claim.

 

I'm inclined to believe your bulletproof claim but it is hard to take it completely at face value with how you butchered delivering it.. However, if we did assume this to be true it would almost certainly mean at least one of (and maybe both of) Lachiton and LordSunday are Werewolves. I will stand by my vote of Lachiton unless something real comes to the table that can change it. As the very worst, we can lynch Lachiton or LordSunday and then lynch KitKat next if need be.

[Canik]

Yeah I'm doubtful Kitkat made up all that "I can only be night killed by WWs" stuff. I'd bet on him being legit right now and the oddness of his role was Kevin giving it a twist for this game set-up.

[Ali bin Turban]

I agree TW, especially that Lord Sunday was supposed to get more active and come on his day (which was yesterday) and yet there's nothing happening. We need to shed some light on those two and if no other means are available, let it be the way of the lynch.

 

Lachiton, LS it's probably your last chance to come in and share your thoughts. If you're not scums, then who do you think they are? If you're town you have to have suspects.

[LordSunday]

I think the ww's are between Lachiton, SM, or KitKat.

 

Lachiton hasn't claimed yet, is somewhat inactive and doesn't share many thoughts. I think he would be most likely of these three

 

SM made her claim, but there's no way to prove that would help the town. It's also a pretty random role that she may think unlikely to be counter-claimed by anyone else.

 

KitKat's roleclaim is more reasonable, but bulletproof is a possible werewolf role and KitKat's initial claim matched the ww version. It could have been a mistake as he claims or maybe a very costly slip.

[KevinH]

[Hux finds Ren lying unconscious on Snoke's throne room floor amid the wreckage following the battle with Rey and the Praetorian guards. He reaches for his blaster pistol, but instantly recoils once he sees Ren come to]
Hux: What...happened?
Ren: The girl murdered Snoke. [looks out the window and sees half the ship floating away] What happened?!
Hux: She took Snoke's escape craft.
Ren: [surveys the room] We know where she's going. Get all our forces down to that Resistance base; let's finish this.
Hux: "Finish this"? Who do you think you're talking to? You presume to command my army?! Our Supreme Leader is dead! We have no ruler!
Ren: [angrily uses the Force to choke Hux; he brings Hux to his knees] The Supreme Leader is dead!
Hux: [choking] Long live the Supreme Leader.
 
Vote count:

Lachiton (3): The Warrior, Kitkat16, Samus,
Kitkat16 (1): Brewersalliance,
Brewersalliance (1): Canik, 
Sister Midnight (0):
Samus (0):
The Warrior (0): 
Canik (0):
Jazzy95 (0): 
LordSunday (0):
Ali bin Turban (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting:  Lachiton, LordSunday, Sister Midnight, Jazzy95, Ali bin Turban, 

 
Consider this vote count official as of now. As I went through it, I had an unvote when I didn't see a previous vote and vote for a second time on the same player. If I missed something, please just make the vote again.
 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 29, at 08:00 EDT.

[Kitkat16]

I think the ww's are between Lachiton, SM, or KitKat.

 

Lachiton hasn't claimed yet, is somewhat inactive and doesn't share many thoughts. I think he would be most likely of these three

 

SM made her claim, but there's no way to prove that would help the town. It's also a pretty random role that she may think unlikely to be counter-claimed by anyone else.

 

KitKat's roleclaim is more reasonable, but bulletproof is a possible werewolf role and KitKat's initial claim matched the ww version. It could have been a mistake as he claims or maybe a very costly slip.

 

Changed your tune? I thought I was "almost certainly" scum, and that was BEFORE it was pointed out that one-shot bulletproof is a werewolf role.

[brewersalliance]

Lachiton hasn't claimed yet, is somewhat inactive and doesn't share many thoughts. I think he would be most likely of these three

 

 

and correct me if im wrong, but I dont think you have claimed either so thats kind of hypocritical of you 

[The Warrior]

No he hasn't. Although to be fair Brewers, you haven't actually claimed either..

[LordSunday]

@brewers I haven't claimed because I believe my role could be valuable and do not want scum to know about it

 

@KitKat I am more lenient towards you currently because of the other roles that relate to your claim. It's your initial RC that I still find suspicious

[Samus]

abt, you gonna reload me tonight?

[brewersalliance]

No he hasn't. Although to be fair Brewers, you haven't actually claimed either..

No I haven't, but I'm also not saying people not claiming are scum or using it as my "we should Lynch you arguement"

I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in his statement.