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[brewersalliance]

I voted for Mandarijn right off the bat today because all day yesterday he kept asking me to share my role and any information I might have in case I die, yet it was pretty much a given atliis was going to die, so that struck me as off, so I still have scum vibes coming from Mandy.

My scum list in order of suspected scuminess:
KevinH
Jazzy
Mandy
KitKat
Yehom
Colonel MedVed
Lachiton
Rhizo
Dark Fox (there is a chance he could still flip godfather even tho Atliis confirmed him)
I feel like I'm missing some people lol
Oh yeah ABT and SBG

Put ABT after MedVed and SBG after Rhizo

[Mandarijn]

 

I was going to post that the Jazzy wagon was going to easy and there were 2/6 from the list on that wagon already, so that it is very likely that Jazzy is probably a townie.

The roleclaim only strenghtens this:

 

Sigh

 

I'm Hitmonlee the tracker

Jazzy, you should give us a complete list of who you tracked when and what the results were.

 

So that means there must be 4 scums on this list:

Colonel Medved

Rhizo

KevinH

Yehom

Kitkat

Unless both you and Jazzy are scum 

 

Sure, I was the 1st one who put Jazzy in the daylight today and now we're scum buddies.

 

I have a post somewhere as well where I explain my feelings on everyone...

[Jazzy95]

Let me get ahead of Rhizo's RC so I don't look foolish.

 

Samus- No one

Rhizo- Rafay

Rhizo- Atliis

Lach- No one

[Rhizoctonia]

Let me get ahead of Rhizo's RC so I don't look foolish.

 

Samus- No one

Rhizo- Rafay

Rhizo- Atliis

Lach- No one

 

 

I can confirm I did these actions.  Though doesn't mean Jazzy can't be a mafia tracker.

[Rhizoctonia]

I would like to know the pokemon names of everyone who hasn't RC.

 

KevinH
Mandy
KitKat
Yehom
Colonel MedVed
 

I'm not asking for your roles.  But anyone refusing to do so, is likely looking scummy

[Rhizoctonia]

So my claim is Scyther, town Pursuiter aka FBI Agent.

 

My actions:

 

N1:  Samus - No Result

N2:  Rafay - Not guilty

N3:  Atilis - Not guilty

N4:  Jazzy - Not Guilty

 

There is a reason I'm sketchy about AbT

1.  If he wasn't framed, he's mafia

 

2.  Let's for shits say there is a framer mafia, and AbT isn't Mafia, but is an SK.  I asked TW, if in fact a SK would come up guilty to a cop on a normal investigation, and he said no.  That being said, if people are going to suggest there's a framer or believe it, maybe in fact Mafia framed the SK, thus why he came up guilty.  What bothers me, is that AbT has claimed the one role that could mask a second kill at night, a Vig.  He could be using a fake Vig claim as a cover for SK kill.  Me, knowing since the start there's possibly a SK, a vig claim is one that I am concerned is a fake RC, because they can claim it and mask SK kills.  TBH, I find it odd for AbT to take a shot like he did last night like he claims to take out Canik, when he really didn't have that great of a reason.

3.  Then comes to the likes of Mandarijn.  Let's say Mandarijn is part of the scum team, and do have a framer.  They would know that AbT in there eyes was town (not knowing of a SK), and they framed him correctly.  It would make sense then for Mandarijn to be so open at defending AbT as he has, because if he does, and AbT is still lynched, he's going to look town for not being part of the wagon and not trying to get him lynched while focus will be on people who were on wagon.  See I find it quite difficult that people are believing a frame role, especially as much as Mandarijn has, unless they're scum and know they framed him and know to go to defense of him because they think he's town.  That being said, what Manarijn and their other scum buddies might not know is they framed an SK.

4.  I been thinking for awhile that my role maybe not have an actual purpose.  With the many nights of no kills, there has been no signs of an SK and I have been thinking, giving the fact I was a later entry to join this game, I was just given a role when there wasn't an SK.  But what I also think, is we could have a more experienced player, like the likes of AbT who is smart to not lynch until later in game to not give any clue there's one.

 

5.  Been reading a lot of TW's story and also his random mention of pokemon.  Thus I want to hear names of people who aren't yet confirmed.  
 

Also why I brought up RB, as my N1 action did not go through and thus something blocked it when I went after Samus.  Could of been a town who did it, but yet to hear anyone come forth with information on possibly why

[brewersalliance]

If Rhizo is telling the truth, then i would tend to agree that ABT is indeed the SK

[KevinH]

I don't like the way you're trying to oversimplify that. It's like you're not even thinking about possibility of being wrong and just pushing for the lynch.
 
Also you've decided to ignore my question about your actions. Let me fully quote what you've said on D2 about me:

Even if it's not game-long, I'm inclined to lynch Ali bin Turban today.
At best, we lynch a scum who tried a clever gambit.
At worst, we lose a townie that doesn't have a power that will help the town.

Vote: Ali bin Turban

Unless ... does anyone want to confess to being Lovers with Ali?

 
How did you know I didn't have a power? I didn't use my action till N4, so a tracker targeting me on N1 would see me doing nothing and could come to a conclusion I've no role. And don't say it was a mistake. Noone makes such mistakes (anyone of you guys - when the game is starting could you look at any other player and think "he surely has no role"?).
You either knew something or were lying to enforce your point.

 

 
 Note how Ali bin Turban conveniently ignores my following post from 8 minutes later.
 

Amend that ...
Ali still might have a power, but at this point I don't see a better option.

 

I think he's a desperate scum trying to make anything stick.

Could I be wrong?  Sure.  But we have to make some assumptions and consider the odds.

We assume that all the innocent investigations by the cop are true, but any one of them could be a Godfather or maybe a Tailor made them appear innocent in exactly the same way that a Framer might have made an investigation appear guilty.

[KevinH]

By the way, I am Gengar.  I have nothing useful to share from my role.

[Yehom]

I just read back all the flavor texts that TW made and I'd argue that only the last couple of texts are really worth looking into. The Pokemon that have been mentioned are Pikachu, Spearow, Bulbasaur, Charizard (allegedly Ali), Arcanine (MK), Chansey (Canik v1), Snorlax (Canik v2), Blastoise (Atliis), Venasaur, Hitmonchan and Rhydon. Only the last ones are interesting for us as those are the ones that drop the most names, but Machamp (Rafay) wasn't named anywhere. So I'd say we shouldn't really focus on the first couple ones all to much as I don't someone is going to claim Spearow, Bulbasaur or Pikachu. Venasaur and Rhydon could be mafia Pokemon, as mentioned before.

 

That being said I'm Golem

[Rhizoctonia]

I just read back all the flavor texts that TW made and I'd argue that only the last couple of texts are really worth looking into. The Pokemon that have been mentioned are Pikachu, Spearow, Bulbasaur, Charizard (allegedly Ali), Arcanine (MK), Chansey (Canik v1), Snorlax (Canik v2), Blastoise (Atliis), Venasaur, Hitmonchan and Rhydon. Only the last ones are interesting for us as those are the ones that drop the most names, but Machamp (Rafay) wasn't named anywhere. So I'd say we shouldn't really focus on the first couple ones all to much as I don't someone is going to claim Spearow, Bulbasaur or Pikachu. Venasaur and Rhydon could be mafia Pokemon, as mentioned before.

That being said I'm Golem

Machomp, actually was mentioned. It was not in the end of the day/beginning of day flavor, but it was a Pokemon TW posted randomly during a day, and said Machomp became Machamp.

I also find your name a bit unique being golem. You're a rock Pokemon, and the flavor mentioned a death by falling rocks.

[Rhizoctonia]

Ash was restless. Visions of New City danced in and out of his mind as he tossed and turned in his sleeping bag next to the campfire. It was nearly dawn when Pikachu shook Ash awake.

 

"Pi-Pika! Pikachu!" the Pokémon shouted pointing behind Ash. Ash turned around and saw Charizard leaving the campsite.

 

"Hey Charizard!" Ash called. "Charizard, where are you going?"

 

Ash caught up to his Pokémon and got in front of Charizard since he would not stop or turn around when called. The Pokémon's gaze was fixed on the trees in front of him and refused to break his stare or cease his forward movement. No matter what Ash did he could not get his Pokémon's attention.

 

Ash took another pokeball from his waist and threw it toward the ground. "Bulbasaur!" came the call of Ash's Pokémon as it was released from the ball.

 

"Bulbasaur, use your vine whip to snap Charizard out of this." Vines shot out of Bulbasaur's back and slapped Charizard across its chest. Charizard shrugged off the attack and turned on Bulbasaur. He tilted his head back and opened his jaws. Ash could see the glint of fire building in Charizard's throat. He ran over to his backpack, grabbed Charizard's pokeball, pointed it at the Pokémon and called "Charizard return!" A beam of light shot out of the pokeball and Charizard returned.

 

"Something's not right here. We have to get Charizard to the nearest Pokémon Center. Maybe Nurse Joy can help." Ash called back his Bulbasaur and quickly packed up his campsite before setting off to find his way out of the forest. They finally found the trees thinning after a 20 minute walk to the East. Ash could see a path in the distance and quickly began running toward it. The companions sprinted up a hill and could see a town below them as they reached the hill's crest.

 

As they reached the edge of town, a large circular building with what appeared to be a giant pokeball on the roof came into view. The Poke Center was on the Southeast side of town flanked by a large cliff. As Ash sprinted toward the building the front sliding glass doors opened and Nurse Joy ran toward them followed by a Chansey pushing a stretcher.

 

"We saw you running toward the Poke Center through the window!" Nurse Joy called to Ash. "We figured there was a problem."

 

"I'm not really sure what is going on" Ash replied. "Something is wrong with my Charizard."

 

"Let's leave him in the pokeball then. This stretcher is too small for a Charizard."

 

As the group hurried back toward the Poke Center they heard a loud rumble overhead. Several large boulders came cascading down the side of the cliff and thundered toward them. Ash grabbed Nurse Joy's hand and pulled her out of the way. Pikachu managed to dodge the rockslide as well but Chansey had not. The boulder slammed into Chansey and sent her flying. She hit the ground with a thud and lay motionless in the grass.

 

 

Canik (Chansey), a town Heal Pulser (Doctor) has been knocked out on night 2.

 

It is now day 3.

 

Vote Count

 

Ali bin Turban (0):  

Atliis (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Colonel Medved (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rafay (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Samus (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Atliis, Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Darkfox, Jazzy95, KevinH, Kitkat16, Lachiton, Lord MK, Mandarijn, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Samus, SeaBeeGipson, Yehom

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch or 5 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Friday, May 4th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill:

 

 

In red is the part I'd like to bring to everyone's attention.  The flavor suggests that Chancey, aka Canik (v1), was killed by rocks falling.

Yehom now claims Golem.  Let's look at Golem's card

 

 

As you see, one of his actions is Avalanche.  This leads me to believe maybe TW's flavor may have in fact just caught us a scum.  I'm also waiting to hear from the others what their names are, and check them as well.  Both if they've been mentioned in TW's flavor, and such.  I imagine some scum will look to change their name if they realize some info in Flavor, and then I'd tell town to check names mentioned in past Flavor against their claims.  With 4 confirmed town, and getting down to low numbers who scum possibilities are, should be able to maybe find whose fake RC names.  

What worries me a bit is what the card's other ability of Golem is, and that's a self destruct.  Could this be a supersaint that will take someone with him?  I encourage the town confirmed to look into some of the flavor of TW's posts, may give some hints.

AbT to me could very well be Mafia, or could possibly be an SK.  Could be town, but I'm still siding with either Mafia/SK.  At this point, we need to be taking out scum however most importantly.  If AbT is actually SK, scum would like him out as much as Town if he kills one of them at night.  So I'm looking at this vote possible elsewhere.

With what I just presented...
 

Vote:  Yehom

[Rhizoctonia]

By the way, I am Gengar.  I have nothing useful to share from my role.

 

 

This is odd too, since flavor mentions a couple times of pokemon not acting right, both Charizard and arcanine...and mentions others.

Also, google searching Gengar

 

http://www.pokemonperfect.com/forums/index.php?threads/gengar-done.3364/

 

There's a part in there that I find kinda unique.  A few times, both Gengar, Golem, and Rhydon are mentioned.

 

Gengar has a plethora of other options, some better than others. Perhaps most notably, Mega Drain is a particularly powerful attack versus Golem and Rhydon, as well as granting it some recovery.

 

Golem and Rhydon, whilst disliking Mega Drain, can force it out once it has put something to sleep, as Earthquake OHKOes it

 

 

To me, this makes me think possibly you may be on opposite sides of Golem/Rhydon (evolves in Rhyhorn which is in flavor).  But not sure

[Kitkat16]

I am Ninetales, a Pay-backer (Vengeful).

[DarkFox]

Is every pokemon that was mentioned so far in the game? Jazzy could have lied in hopes that no one will have the pokemon. With that said I am learning more on his side and with that

 

Unvote Jazzy

[DarkFox]

Ahh wait he said he is hitmonlee and not hitmonchan. Maybe oh maybe he is still scum, but for the time being I am going keep the unvote.

[Mandarijn]

I’m Electabuzz and I have also nothing to share.

Rhizo is looking more and more town to me, which leaves me with these 4 suspects:
Medved
Yehom
KevinH
KitKat

[Rhizoctonia]

I'd like to remind people we have a little over 24 hours until day ends.  We need to figure out what we're doing.  I'm likely sticking to Yehom for what I presented.  Some are on Jazzy, and I do not believe Jazzy is officially town confirmed, just that he's not lying about being a tracker.  Very well could be a mafia tracker, as TW in an early post made the comment that only 1 role on his list was Town or Mafia specific.  Which means as much as I'd like to be town confirmed, I understand I cannot be as well.  Hopefully my actions however speak for themselves.  Still like Yehom better for today

[Yehom]

Talk about a stretch and then some. I could go online to find whatever connection to all of the Pokemon mentioned, but that doesn't mean that Pokemon X is for sure part of a scum team that could be literally any Pokemon. If it were true that scum team was consistent of all Rock-type, or Pokemon that are mentioned in whatever Pokedex entry together or what not, would I seriously take the chance to roleclaim Golem? Think about that

 

I'll fully roleclaim so people won't get persuaded to follow this nonsense that Rhizo is spewing, however I will confirm something that he threw out there as I believe there is a SK in this game, because I'm Golem, a X-shot Defense Curl-er (Bulletproof). I'm not saying how many shots I have because I honestly believe seeing as there have been 2 nights where no kills have occurred that I've been targeted at least once. However as I've asked TW I will not be informed if and when my power is used to protect me. I'd like to point out that Rhizo being a FBI-agent doesn't automatically make him town. He could very well be a scum FBI agent. Seeing as Manda is again so easily swayed into believing him, I wouldn't be surprised that those 2 are on the same team. 

 

Do I believe Ali is a Vig or a SK, I'm not sure. I wanted to wait out this night to find out as it's also possible that TW gave town a Bulletproof as protection against an unfortunate Vig kill + scum protection. If there were 2 kills again this night it would have fully confirmed my suspicions but unfortunately Rhizo forced my hand. 

[Colonel Medved]

Due to recent events, i'm more inclined to believe Jazzy's claim. I haven't been able to read all of the posts, but i have seen that people are RC'ing, so i'll go ahead and do the same. I'm (Sandslash): Earthquake-er (Motion Detector). After i catch up on all the posts, i'll post again with my opinions.

 

unvote Jazzy