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[brewersalliance]

Nope, I wasn't blocked and it wasn't about me.

 

 

so u did other night actions?  im confused

edit;  never mind, i went back and re-read what you said.  it makes sense now .  

[Ali bin Turban]

I also don't get Brewers. I very well agree with Kevin that there could be a JOAT scum role, considering we had a town role with it, and a lot of games I've played if there's a town JOAT, there's a scum JOAT. I also have played a a scum JOAT (or maybe just was part of scum team, was awhile ago) where restrictions are put on that they can't use it until a certain day, think mine was N3. Him bringing that up is actually something worth noting, and using their Vig ability last night to help AbT's story would be a smart move. Also, from D2 the scum knew that there was a Nympho. Once AbT came out that he was hit by what he thought was Cupid, scum knew it wasn't their action (cupid), so knew there were lovers/nympho, and yet he remains alive. If AbT is scum, they obviously wouldn't want to target SbG or AbT to kill one of their own. It's also obvious that scum have a RB, given atilis N3 action didn't go through. They very well could of RB's atilis last night and took out 2 for 1, or hit someone else, since as long as they could keep RB atilis, he wasn't that much of a threat given he didn't really do much talking. Brewers also back to allowing AbT to live further because of fear of losing 2 people, which has allowed him to continue since D2 on this fear

 

 

That's a nice story, let's talk about it.

1. Atilis was not RB. As Jazzy's mentioned, his action didn't reach TW (probably because of forum issues we were experiencing). So scum having RB is actually unlikely.

2. Why am I still alive? Killing two townies in one swipe is to good to pass on. Unless...

     - You can have town do your dirty job. Killing someone at night when he might get lynched during the day is a waste of shot, isn't it?

     - One of them has no role and second one is nympho...so they are no threat and it's better to look for a Cop or a Doctor.

 

Why would scum think I have no role? Maybe because of this post #200 : link ? So, KevinH are you a tracker who saw me doing nothing on N1? Don't say it was a mistake, I don't buy it. I don't think such conclusion could even come to anyone's mind (there are multiple questions, like what if he's a cop, or a doctor, etc.) if they didn't got extra information.

[brewersalliance]

  It's also obvious that scum have a RB, given atilis N3 action didn't go through.  They very well could of RB's atilis last night and took out 2 for 1, or hit someone else, since as long as they could keep RB atilis, he wasn't that much of a threat given he didn't really do much talking.  Brewers also back to allowing AbT to live further because of fear of losing 2 people, which has allowed him to continue since D2 on this fear

 

Atillis said his action never got sent to TW cause of the forums being down, not that he was role blocked.  Secondly, I am not keeping ABT alive because SBG could die with him.  I am leaning towards believing ABT and that ABT is town.  Sure he hasnt been killed yet, but maybe there is a protective role that has been protecting ABT.  We have had a couple nights with no kills, so maybe that is why he is both alive and we had nights with no scum kills. 

[Ali bin Turban]

Also out of the unknown 7 I'm leaning on the first two to be town:

 

Jazzy95 - mostly for posting the right questions/facts (like questioning Atilis how could he know that Rafay was lying). He's posting little, but it feels like he's genuinely trying to help.

Yehom - mostly after he was calling canik out for not posting the day after Canik died (less probable for the scum to be so lazy not to notice who they killed).

 

If that's true, that would mean there's just one town in the bunch:

 

Colonel Medved

KevinH

Kitkat16

Mandarijn

Rhizoctonia

[Rhizoctonia]

It's also obvious that scum have a RB, given atilis N3 action didn't go through. They very well could of RB's atilis last night and took out 2 for 1, or hit someone else, since as long as they could keep RB atilis, he wasn't that much of a threat given he didn't really do much talking. Brewers also back to allowing AbT to live further because of fear of losing 2 people, which has allowed him to continue since D2 on this fear

Atillis said his action never got sent to TW cause of the forums being down, not that he was role blocked. Secondly, I am not keeping ABT alive because SBG could die with him. I am leaning towards believing ABT and that ABT is town. Sure he hasnt been killed yet, but maybe there is a protective role that has been protecting ABT. We have had a couple nights with no kills, so maybe that is why he is both alive and we had nights with no scum kills.

Could you link me to where he said that. I may have missed him saying that, I went back to the one post I saw where he revealed his actions was him stating he got "no result" which is what one gets when their action doesn't go through due to something in game.

[brewersalliance]

here you go Rhizo

 

Vote for Lord MK

I think it is pretty clear he is scum. Sorry guys I haven't been active because the server expiring fucked up my night action and this game sucks now!

[Rhizoctonia]

here you go Rhizo

Vote for Lord MK
I think it is pretty clear he is scum. Sorry guys I haven't been active because the server expiring fucked up my night action and this game sucks now!

Thanks. Assumed I missed it since more then one mentioned it, I just went back to his post of all his actions and saw the "no result" the one night and assumed something prevented him in game since that's the message one would get.

[brewersalliance]

yeah he said it a few days earlier 

@kitkat

 

you said you might have more info to share on ABT, depending on what he says. well ABT has made his remarks, so I am curious if you have anything to share that could help us out 

[Mandarijn]

Also out of the unknown 7 I'm leaning on the first two to be town:

Jazzy95 - mostly for posting the right questions/facts (like questioning Atilis how could he know that Rafay was lying). He's posting little, but it feels like he's genuinely trying to help.
Yehom - mostly after he was calling canik out for not posting the day after Canik died (less probable for the scum to be so lazy not to notice who they killed).

If that's true, that would mean there's just one town in the bunch:

Colonel Medved
KevinH
Kitkat16
Mandarijn
Rhizoctonia

That would be me.

I’m out of town at the moment till monday, I’m reading but don’t really have time to do much more.

[Yehom]

If we go by Pokemon names and how it would translate into mafia roles, I'd say that Charizard, which Ali claimed, would more likely be a Vig than a scum JOAT. This is of course assuming that Ali is indeed Charizard, but I don't see Ali tooking a shot at claiming a Pokemon that any other townie could have had. That kind of risky play is not something I would see Ali doing (whether that be as town or scum), so I'm more inclined to believe that Ali is town and he got framed than him being a scum JOAT as Kevin is suggesting. I'm not completely convinced yet, because the argument that Kevin makes is still valid. However given all the information that Ali has given us is lining up with how the game has been played so far, it's all pointing at Ali telling the truth 

[Kitkat16]

yeah he said it a few days earlier 

@kitkat

 

you said you might have more info to share on ABT, depending on what he says. well ABT has made his remarks, so I am curious if you have anything to share that could help us out 

 

I'm afraid not. All I was going to do was to share my thoughts about Kevin, but decided there wasn't much point in waiting for AbT to post because I believed him anyway.

 

P.S. I have very limited internet atm, sorry for my absence all.

[Lachiton]

We cant afford anymore mislynches now so its better for "unknown" guys to show their hands and prove that they're town. There is no point in withholding information anymore.

[KevinH]

oh dang, you got me.  i should unvote then right?

Yes, unless you want to lynch a townie.

[SeaBeeGipson]

We cant afford anymore mislynches now so its better for "unknown" guys to show their hands and prove that they're town. There is no point in withholding information anymore.

What are the stats we're sitting at? How many mislynches do we have left?

(Assuming 4 scum and AbT+myself get killed tonight, assuming we're both town)

[brewersalliance]

Current totals

(assumes ABT and SBG town and 8 town 4 scum left)

12 alive-8 town, 4 scum

 

D5 mislynch-7 town 4 scum

N5-ABT+SBG killed, 5 town, 4 scum

D6 mislynch-- 4 town, 4 scum, town looses

[Mandarijn]

So there must be 4 scums on this list:

Colonel Medved

Rhizo

KevinH

Jazzy

Yehom

Kitkat

[Rhizoctonia]

So there must be 4 scums on this list:

Colonel Medved

Rhizo

KevinH

Jazzy

Yehom

Kitkat

 

 

Cute that you forgot to include AbT, and Lach(I forgot him as well on mine).  Along with your name 

[Mandarijn]

 

So there must be 4 scums on this list:

Colonel Medved

Rhizo

KevinH

Jazzy

Yehom

Kitkat

 

 

Cute that you forgot to include AbT, and Lach(I forgot him as well on mine).  Along with your name 

 

We have to start somewhere. I believe Lachiton's claim for 95% and I believe Ali for 85%. And I'm town as well, so the rest is on my list...

[Yehom]

This game has been very stale and I think it has something to do with the fact that we've had two players intentionally throwing this game which makes the game that much harder. Like Brewers calculated we're only two mislynches away from losing this game and it's showing. Nobody seems to want to pull the trigger on anyone. Deadline is in about 3 days and we're in the dark as our most important information roles have been either killed (Atliis) or already used (Lachiton, assuming he's telling the truth). The problem is that we can't sit on our hands either. We don't do something, this day will just go to no-lynch, scum get a free kill and town will still be absolutely nowhere. I'd rather risk something and hopefully get something right than doing absolutely nothing and just lose this game passively. 

 

That being said I'm going to 

 

Vote: Jazzy

 

You can defend yourself with 'grasping for straws' all you like but you were literally the only person not to involve themselves in the Ali vs MK discussion yesterday. According to you 

 

 

I want to vote but I'm really on the fence, and maybe (tin foil hat time) that's the point. MK as scum took heat all day, knowing most players like to run out the clock rather than early lynch, giving Lach an opportunity for a last minute distraction to split the vote. Not to mention, if AbT, MK, and Lach are a team, they now know which innocent to leave alone since SBG has claimed nympho.

 

There was absolutely no reason for you to join the discussion that late and still be on the fence. You heard every argument that every other person made, yet you were reluctant to even make an argument yourself. I've heard every single person take a side with at least an argument why they thought X over Y or vice versa. Your only contribution to that discussion was that you were on the fence and that was it. No follow-up, the day ended and MK got lynched. Granted that he threw that himself, it doesn't excuse the fact that didn't take a stance in a discussion that divided town pretty much in half. It now seems that neither MK nor Ali may be scum, which means that it could work in your favor to not be on either wagons. Can't act scummy if you're never on any townie wagons, right?

[Colonel Medved]

I was hoping by now Jazzy would reply to my post, but it looks like it won't happen. For us to come this far and not get one scum is very troubling, which makes me easily believe that Jazzy could be flying under the radar as scum (As i said in my last post, which jazzy did not rebuttal). I agree with Yehom, i rather take a chance than lose passively. Hopefully Jazzy comes forward after this, with some kind of information.

 

Vote: Jazzy