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[Mandarijn]

It's better to lynch Jazzy than me because I'm town.

In the absence of any good intelligence, I agree with lynching less active or under the radar players,

However, that is not the case here.

Let me summarize:

LACHITON: I investigated Ali bin Turban and he's scum.

ALI BIN TURBAN: I was framed.

EVERYONE ELSE: Oh, OK.

This is funny though as you had no problem yesterday with lynching MK.

[Mandarijn]

At this point we've seen following Role Claims:

 

Brewersalliance - noone knows, but Cop confirmed. It would be nice if you show us your actions, since they could give us more info

Darkfox - did he claimed? Cop confirmed

Lachiton - JOAT

SeaBeeGipson - nympho
 

Ali bin Turban - Vig

Colonel Medved - Motion detector

Jazzy95 - Tracker

KevinH - nothing to share

Kitkat16 - Vengeful

Mandarijn - nothing to share

Rhizoctonia - FBI Agent

Yehom - Bulletproof

 

Dead People:

Atilis - MachoCop

Canik1 - Doc

Lord MK - Commuter

Rafay - Bodyguard

Samus (Canik2) - Ascetic

 

There's quite an excessive list of protective roles (doc, bodyguard, bulletproof, maybe also "Brewers knowing Rafay's not a jailer"), so Yehom's claim is not really strong.

But what seems most glaring to me are Medved's actions against Samus on N1. Ascetic is supposed to block all actions against him, yet Medved reports that he got result.

 

@TW could you confirm whether Motion Detector would get a result on Ascetic or not? Because MafiaWiki states about MotionDetector that:

If their target is Ascetic or targeted by a Rolestopper, they should receive a "No Result" pm
 

Until we get an explanation from TW about motion detector

 

vote Colonel Medved

 

Because his RC seems crafted.

I'm glad someone else caught this as well. Besides that all his 'actions' are on people we know what happened with them and not on 'unknown' people like DarkFox, me, Kitkat, ... So this is indeed a clear no no and a mistake made by a scum.

 

Vote: Colonel Medved

Which is basicly what MK did and he was lying...

[Rhizoctonia]

 

 

And I don't believe you're town, so we got that in common.  You're either scum JOAT getting a 2nd kill, or you're an SK.  If you're so sure, pop me tonight o mister Vig, so tomorrow when I come up it, you'll seal your fate, because yes, I'll be targeting you tonight with my investigation.  As a town Vig as you claim, you already cost us a life being wrong (the guy who called people out from D2 about not caring about the life of other town connected to you yet you pop a town with hardly 0 to go on).  Well done!  Try again tonight and be 0 for 2.

And no, I didn't investigate you because of the simple fact you came up guilty to a cop, and after asking TW as I already stated what you would come up if you were an SK to a cop and he said not guilty.  After you popped a town last night, and some people want to keep believing you came up guilty to a cop due to a framer, then I started to think, hmm well a framed SK would come up guilty as well to a cop.  

 

I'm really not that concerned what you really have to say, because I highly suspect you're one of the two.  I just rather see a likely scum Yehom go then possibly an SK, and I either investigate you tonight and find if you're one or not, or I'm killed tonight by you and your scum buddies, you as an SK, or you as a stupid town Vig and my identity will be verified.  

 

 

First of all, you're being rude. I didn't call you stupid and I'd really wish your manners would also prevent you from calling others like that.

Secondly as I've mentioned I'm one-shot Vig, so I won't be killing anyone else.

Thirdly as I said already and in your internet rage you chose to ignore that. I actually had no choice but to shoot blindly last night. If I didn't do that, two townies would get lynched today (me+SBG) as noone would believe my claim. 50% chance to get a scum seemed a decent gamble given the circumstances. I'm pretty sure you'd do the same, but I don't really expect such confirmation coming from you.

 

Finally get a Snickers, maybe it will help you.

 

 

 

Stating that killing me in night would be a stupid move is not being rude, it's being quite honest.  Killing another town, after already killing one at night would in fact be a stupid choice.  

You didn't need to blindly shoot someone to somehow legitimize you're role.  Being that there was a town JOAT, I wouldn't be surprised there was a scum JOAT, for which many times has a vig role.  Also, unknown to you or others, I knew the possibility of a SK in this game.  You choosing to randomly pick someone does not somehow make me  believe your role anymore then before, as there's 2 other possibilities for why you were able to kill someone other then town Vig.  The people that were going to believe that you were framed were likely to no matter if you shot someone or not.  Hell I'd probably give you more credit you didn't saying you weren't positive on who to hit then just doing so.  Also you seem to have it out with Kevin, for which you bring up something he said back on D2 about you not having a role, and yet you didn't go after him over Canik

[brewersalliance]

Why dont you name claim then? Well you can also full claim if you want because I guess all of us have already figured out what your role is.

 

 

okay, I am Venusaur, a town Even Night Constrictor (Jailkeeper)

 

I jailed ABT night 2, and Venusaur is an evolution of Bulbasuar, so it might just be a coincidence on the flavor text or it could be a mistake on TW's part idk, but n2 I protected and rb'd ABT,  since he claimed he was a lover and I did not want two townies to die

 

n4, i targeted Atliis to protect since I figured scum would target him as cop (and u can see in the flavor I shot my vines at him, just like what happened with Charizard n2 in the flavor) however, because Atliis was a Macho cop, he could not be protected.  Therefor, nothing happened with my protection.

 

Thats also why I called Rafay out for the jailkeeper thing, since I did not know there could be multiple roles that were the same. i assumed there could only be one of each role (though later TW said there could be multiples)

[Rhizoctonia]

 

Thanks for showing it! I also suggest you read it again carefully. First of all it was N2 in the description. Secondly I didn't perform any action and the description does not say Charizard performed any action.

 

yeah my bad, that was a fat finger on my part, i meant n2.  if enough people do not believe me and think i fucked up and lied, I have no issue fully role claiming.  Charizard had fire about to come out of his mouth, that means charizard was in the process of trying to attack.  ash called him back into his poke ball, thus preventing the attack

 

 

 

So did you stop him N2, or N3?

[brewersalliance]

i blocked/protected ABT n2, which lines up with the flavor text of an attack by charizard trying to attack, and having it blocked

[Ali bin Turban]

Omg, I can't believe that.

 

So you're the one that targeted me on N2, which is clearly shown in the flavor ( Bulbasaur targets Charizard and then they struggle) and yet you claim i did target someone and vote me because of that.

 

That's it, I'm out of mafia after this game.

[brewersalliance]

Omg, I can't believe that.

 

So you're the one that targeted me on N2, which is clearly shown in the flavor ( Bulbasaur targets Charizard and then they struggle) and yet you claim i did target someone and vote me because of that.

 

That's it, I'm out of mafia after this game.

 

 

Lets read again how the Charizard flavor text started: "Pi-Pika! Pikachu!" the Pokémon shouted pointing behind Ash. Ash turned around and saw Charizard leaving the campsite.

 

"Hey Charizard!" Ash called. "Charizard, where are you going?"

 

Ash caught up to his Pokémon and got in front of Charizard since he would not stop or turn around when called. The Pokémon's gaze was fixed on the trees in front of him and refused to break his stare or cease his forward movement. No matter what Ash did he could not get his Pokémon's attention.

 

So it starts out with Charizard doing something before the bulbasaur even gets invloved.  Its not until after Charizard seems intend on going to the trees to do something, that balbasaur attempted to stop him.

 

Secondly, your defense to my accusation is " Im quitting mafia"?!? really?  

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

 

Ali bin Turban (2): KevinH, Brewersalliance

Colonel Medved (2): Ali bin Turban, Mandarijn

KevinH (2): Kitkat16, SeaBeeGipson

Jazzy95 (1): Yehom

Yehom (1): Rhizoctonia

Brewersalliance (0):

Darkfox (0):

Kitkat16 (0):

Lachiton (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

 

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Colonel Medved, Darkfox, Jazzy95, Lachiton

 

With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, June 7th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill:

[Rhizoctonia]

 

Omg, I can't believe that.

 

So you're the one that targeted me on N2, which is clearly shown in the flavor ( Bulbasaur targets Charizard and then they struggle) and yet you claim i did target someone and vote me because of that.

 

That's it, I'm out of mafia after this game.

 

 

Lets read again how the Charizard flavor text started: "Pi-Pika! Pikachu!" the Pokémon shouted pointing behind Ash. Ash turned around and saw Charizard leaving the campsite.

 

"Hey Charizard!" Ash called. "Charizard, where are you going?"

 

Ash caught up to his Pokémon and got in front of Charizard since he would not stop or turn around when called. The Pokémon's gaze was fixed on the trees in front of him and refused to break his stare or cease his forward movement. No matter what Ash did he could not get his Pokémon's attention.

 

So it starts out with Charizard doing something before the bulbasaur even gets invloved.  Its not until after Charizard seems intend on going to the trees to do something, that balbasaur attempted to stop him.

 

Secondly, your defense to my accusation is " Im quitting mafia"?!? really?  

 

 

 

I'm at a crossroads, because I believe your roleclaim, I'm just trying to figure out if the "Flavor," was telling that he tried to kill someone and was blocked, or not.  It seems with both of your actions, both you jailing AbT, and jailing Atilis, there was mention of pokemon not responding and acting weird.  Makes sense of they are jailed, they aren't responding because they can't do any action.

Who did you Jail N1, N3?  What I do find odd is there is mention of other Pokemon acting the same way, but none mentioned by name besides specifically N2 with Charizard, and N4 with Arcanine.  The other nights there is no specific name brought up with acting odd

[Mandarijn]

Ali is right, you targeted him and that's exactly what the flavor says. Besides that Ali got visited by atliis and most likely a framer as well, which indeed explains the flavor after N2. And lastly Charizard is clearly one of the good guys, just like Venusaur... Blastoise, Venusaur and Charizard would all be included the story as good guys, no one has counterclaimed 'Charizard' either.

 

Rhizo pointed out the flavor with Golem (Yehom) killing Chansey (Canik), I feel he would not do this if he was scum. 

Medved fucked up with his RC, so he's lying as well.

The wagon on Jazzy went to easy, especially seeing both Yehom and Medved were on the wagon.

 

Brewers, DarkFox, SBG and Lachiton are confirmed town. I'm town as well. I believe Ali's story, seeing 2+ people visited him that night (making it very likely a framer would have to) + the flavor stating that Charizard was acting weird.

 

Which leaves Kitkat and KevinH as scum number 3 and 4.

 

 

 

Who did you Jail N1, N3?  What I do find odd is there is mention of other Pokemon acting the same way, but none mentioned by name besides specifically N2 with Charizard, and N4 with Arcanine.  The other nights there is no specific name brought up with acting odd

 

 

 

He's 'Even', so no one.

[Rhizoctonia]

I also am surprised, as Blastoise has been mentioned by TW (or by mention, talked about the character), and there was mention of Spearow and Rhynhorn, yet no one claimed those.

[brewersalliance]

s. Besides that Ali got visited by atliis and most likely a framer as well

 

 

atliis never visited ABT, he visited Dark Fox

I guess the smart play could be to leave ABT alive for now, and have Rhizo investigate him tonight, and then we will get our answer for sure, and then we can lynch one of the other potential scum.  

[Yehom]

Unvote Jazzy

I don’t know who started this bullshit but the moment we start having the flavor text dictate how we should play we are done for. I understand the fact that we are grasping for straws in a game that has progressed as it has but honestly actions should be louder than words and so far I’ve seen people just yell random shit to justify their actions and not the other way round. I honestly don’t want to lynch Ali just yet because it would kill SGB in the process but with the game this tight it’s preferably him over me.

Also to point out the Jazzy wagon. Nobody in this game was willing to do anything before I put some pressure on Jazzy,but let’s forget that part shall we. Better to all collectively sit on our hands right

[Lachiton]

I also am surprised, as Blastoise has been mentioned by TW (or by mention, talked about the character), and there was mention of Spearow and Rhynhorn, yet no one claimed those.

 

Most likely mafia has been given alternate names. Did everybody name-claimed? What about DarkFox?

 

 

 

s. Besides that Ali got visited by atliis and most likely a framer as well

 

 

atliis never visited ABT, he visited Dark Fox

I guess the smart play could be to leave ABT alive for now, and have Rhizo investigate him tonight, and then we will get our answer for sure, and then we can lynch one of the other potential scum.  

 

If Rhizo is FBI agent, no way SK will let him live tonight. That will be too much of a gamble. If AbT is SK he will surely take out Rhizo tonight, unless he wants to gamble on the framer angle again next day. That being said, I am just going with whats the general feeling town has towards AbT. I am on the fence right now but I can never get fully behind him as he came out guilty to my investigation. But I agree with what SBG said previously, we can maybe lynch him as a last resort. At this moment my top suspects are KevinH and Medved.
 

[Mandarijn]

 

s. Besides that Ali got visited by atliis and most likely a framer as well

 

 

atliis never visited ABT, he visited Dark Fox

I guess the smart play could be to leave ABT alive for now, and have Rhizo investigate him tonight, and then we will get our answer for sure, and then we can lynch one of the other potential scum.  

 

You're right it was Lachiton who visited him on N2.

[brewersalliance]

unvote

 

vote:  yehom

 

if ABT dies and is town, and SBG dies with him, its 6 town 4 scum.  then scum get a night kill and its 5 town, 4 scum. 

 

If there are indeed 4 mafia, then they know its very unlikely we have a SK, and ABT is most likely town, so scum would know they are making the game 5-4

 

sure Yehom putting in the killing vote could draw him more criticism if ABT did flip town, and would probably lead to a lynch of Yehom D6, thus making it 5 town, 3 scum.  Then at night scum would kill again, bringing it to 4 town, three scum.  Im guessing our confirmed townies would be the ones offed at night, making it really a crapshoot for who is who and therefor, scum would have an advantage since they are the only people who know what the teams are.  I think Yehom coming out with the 3rd vote here is worth the risk if you are scum and you have four partners.  hell, even if ABT is an SK, it gets rid of the sk and town, and makes yehom look like hes more town, since he put the deciding vote on the sk, while at the same time removing the sk who could in theory kill scum at night. 

 

plus this way rhizo can still check for sure if ABT is a SK or not tonight.  

and if there are only three mafia, you have to think they are almost sure right now ABT is probably the SK, so putting in the deciding vote on ABT that would get him lynched could cause some people to think yehom might be more townish for killing a scum

and also, if rhizo gets killed and there are two deaths, we know there is an SK.  if rhizo gets killed and there are only one death, chances are that the mafia are trying to frame ABT for killing rhizo, as the SK would clearly like to see rhizo dead.

 

im guessing if  ABT is the sk, he would not kill anyone n5, since if he did, and the mafia kill as well, he is pretty much confirmed as the SK and will be lynched, therefor losing the game for him

[Mandarijn]

I would be fine with lynching Yehom as I think he's scum to. But Medved's role claim is fabricated as Ali pointed out as he cannot get the result "received action" as he was Ascetic, just like Rhizo got "No result" on his action on Samus. Which makes Medved the preffered lynch today...

[Rhizoctonia]

 

s. Besides that Ali got visited by atliis and most likely a framer as well

 

 

atliis never visited ABT, he visited Dark Fox

I guess the smart play could be to leave ABT alive for now, and have Rhizo investigate him tonight, and then we will get our answer for sure, and then we can lynch one of the other potential scum.  

 

 

 

Think he meant Lach visited him.  I screwed up that earlier as well thinking Atilis was the one who came forward with the Guilty on AbT

I also agree AbT makes a good point about the motion detector N1 on Samus claimed by Medved.  I would assume, that a motion detector would not pick up on an action of an Ascetic, since outside of a kill no one can.  I know I investigated Samus N1, and got No Result (was thinking I was RB, I almost did it on him again N2, glad I didn't).  I would assume that a motion detector would not pick up on me visiting when my action was not possible to be done.

I still like Yehom.  What worries me about Medved is the fact the two people on it are two people who have been fairly connected for awhile, as Mandarijn has sided with AbT since early on and continues to.  I'm sketched by AbT for multiple reasons, and Mandarijn I am because he seems so sold on AbT when I don't know how someone could be that sure.

As I stated, I think AbT has the potential to be possible any of 3 possibilities, scum/sk/town.  If he's scum it would be a good lynch, if he's a SK or Town, it's not preferably given that we need to lynch Scum, and if AbT is SK, he's a threat himself to the likes of Scum.  I've been hard on him, but nonetheless I think the better lynch is elsewhere.  

I also will bring up, though I'm comfortable with Brewers coming up town by Atillis, Darkfox did too and has been less talkative and the possibility remains we have a Godfather role.  

I feel more comfortable with the likes of Medved/Yehom today personally

[Rhizoctonia]

 

I also am surprised, as Blastoise has been mentioned by TW (or by mention, talked about the character), and there was mention of Spearow and Rhynhorn, yet no one claimed those.

 

Most likely mafia has been given alternate names. Did everybody name-claimed? What about DarkFox?

 

 

 

s. Besides that Ali got visited by atliis and most likely a framer as well

 

 

atliis never visited ABT, he visited Dark Fox

I guess the smart play could be to leave ABT alive for now, and have Rhizo investigate him tonight, and then we will get our answer for sure, and then we can lynch one of the other potential scum.  

 

If Rhizo is FBI agent, no way SK will let him live tonight. That will be too much of a gamble. If AbT is SK he will surely take out Rhizo tonight, unless he wants to gamble on the framer angle again next day. That being said, I am just going with whats the general feeling town has towards AbT. I am on the fence right now but I can never get fully behind him as he came out guilty to my investigation. But I agree with what SBG said previously, we can maybe lynch him as a last resort. At this moment my top suspects are KevinH and Medved.
 

 

 

 

I assume I'm likely to be taken out tonight, be it by an SK, or by Mafia.  I realize me coming out would hinder this likely, maybe will turn out to be a bad choice.  But assume if there's an SK, I'll be killed, and Mafia may want to kill me to frame AbT if he's in fact town.  Still think if we knock off a few scum, that decision maybe easier, and Mafia are eventually going to want to take out the double kill if AbT/SBG both are town.