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[Soc-01] No Stones Left Unturned (Town WINS!)

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What were your results on the days before?

 

N1= Kev= Nothing

N2= brewsers= Nothing 


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Normally I'd say "I'm a cop, here are my results!" But that's just how we say hello now.

 

You guys are lame. 



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... That being said

 

Vote: Robert

 

Assuming SeaBee is not lying and considering the fact that I know I'm a cop, that means Robert has to be guilty.



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Hello jazzy. I know I'm a cop too. So it's either sea bee is lying, or your scum.

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Well, I investigated TW on N1 and got "Not Guilty", and My second one was on brewers cause the town was adamant on him being investigated and I got nothing.

If that is true, then I'm possibly an insane cop or along those lines.

If you can investigate, you're a town cop and my guilty result on you gives me a good idea of my sanity if this is true

So Robert's results.
So he is either a sane cop or naive cop.
Or scum.
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I investigated Rafay and he showed not guilty.


So Canik has posted just one result.
So need to hear more from him.
Especially due to this.

3) Colonel MedVed (Insane Cop or Paranoid Cop) - Claims to have investigated Brewers night 1 and received "Guilty". Investigated Rafay on night 2 and received "Guilty". Due to his "Guilty" result on Brewers a known townie he can only be Insane or Paranoid. If he's paranoid then his results are worthless. If he's insane it means that Rafay is Town which also could mean that Canik is a Sane Cop. Placed 5th vote on scum Mandarijn.


So if Colonel Medved is town, that clears rafay and also canik.
So basically, if Canik gives us all his results, then we can mass clear a lot of people.
At night, everyone should effectively investigate Colonel Medved.

So Canik, we need your results.
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Well, I investigated TW on N1 and got "Not Guilty", and My second one was on brewers cause the town was adamant on him being investigated and I got nothing.

If that is true, then I'm possibly an insane cop or along those lines.

If you can investigate, you're a town cop and my guilty result on you gives me a good idea of my sanity if this is true

So Robert's results.
So he is either a sane cop or naive cop.
Or scum.

 

this would be true. except I'm not scum. Thank you for gathering all this info up. It makes things clearer. 


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N1 - investigated Rafay got not guilty
N2 - investigated Brewers got no result 
N3 - investigated MedVed got a guilty result on him

So I am either a sane cop or another insane cop.

MedVed did vote to lynch Mandarijn last turn but it was only after Mandys fate was sealed. His getting guilty on everyone could just be a convenient cover for scum too so I'm leaning towards him actually being scum.

Vote: MedVed



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N1 - investigated Rafay got not guilty

N2 - investigated Brewers got no result 

N3 - investigated MedVed got a guilty result on him

 

So I am either a sane cop or another insane cop. MedVed did vote to lynch Mandarijn last turn but it was only after Mandys fate was sealed. His getting guilty on everyone could just be a convenient cover for scum too so I'm leaning towards him actually being scum. 

 

Vote: MedVed

 

 

There's nothing i can really say to make you believe my word, since it is very hard in this game specifically and this early in general as well. At the time of posting the vote on Mandi, i was unaware of how close I was to being the hammer vote (if i wasn't). Being that this game specifically can be pretty hard to tell who is scum since everyone has a random cop role, and that i am new to IRON mafia in general, I read what TW was posting; and due to his experience in mafia i decided to take a side (even though it was late). I rather voice my opinion than sit quietly in the corner when i could say something, but that's just my play style. 

 

What i can say at the very least is that i am Brian Taylor, a Cop. I've given my night results every night since N1 (I was actually the first to give any results). I feel like some people have been very quiet throughout the game so far, which there should be no excuse; since you are either cop or scum. In this game, i feel the quiet ones should have more of a spotlight on them to give information in my opinion. Their silence could be the end of us, we all need to work together.


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Vote count: Day Four-o
1. Lord MK (0);
2. Colonel MedVed (1); Colonel Medved
3. Brewersalliance Killed Night Two
4. Robert2424 (1); Jazzy95
5. The Warrior Killed night three
6. SeaBeaGipson (0);
7. KevinH killed night one
8. Lachiton killed night three

9. Rafay (0);
10. Canik (0);
11. Mandarijn Lynched Day three
12. KitKat16 Jazzy95 (2); Wolfpack, SeaBeaGipson
13. Wolfpack (0);

14. No Lynch (0);

Not voting: Robert2424, Lord MK, Canik, Rafay

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, July 14th , 2018 at 10:00 CN Time


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Vote count: Day Four-o
1. Lord MK (0);
2. Colonel MedVed (1); Colonel Medved
3. Brewersalliance Killed Night Two
4. Robert2424 (1); Jazzy95
5. The Warrior Killed night three
6. SeaBeaGipson (0);
7. KevinH killed night one
8. Lachiton killed night three

9. Rafay (0);
10. Canik (0);
11. Mandarijn Lynched Day three
12. KitKat16 Jazzy95 (2); Wolfpack, SeaBeaGipson
13. Wolfpack (0);

14. No Lynch (0);

Not voting: Robert2424, Lord MK, Canik, Rafay

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, July 14th , 2018 at 10:00 CN Time


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Colonel Medved didn't vote for himself.
Canik did.
You might want to correct that.
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N1 - investigated Rafay got not guilty
N2 - investigated Brewers got no result
N3 - investigated MedVed got a guilty result on him

So I am either a sane cop or another insane cop. MedVed did vote to lynch Mandarijn last turn but it was only after Mandys fate was sealed. His getting guilty on everyone could just be a convenient cover for scum too so I'm leaning towards him actually being scum.

Vote: MedVed



There's nothing i can really say to make you believe my word, since it is very hard in this game specifically and this early in general as well. At the time of posting the vote on Mandi, i was unaware of how close I was to being the hammer vote (if i wasn't). Being that this game specifically can be pretty hard to tell who is scum since everyone has a random cop role, and that i am new to IRON mafia in general, I read what TW was posting; and due to his experience in mafia i decided to take a side (even though it was late). I rather voice my opinion than sit quietly in the corner when i could say something, but that's just my play style.

What i can say at the very least is that i am Brian Taylor, a Cop. I've given my night results every night since N1 (I was actually the first to give any results). I feel like some people have been very quiet throughout the game so far, which there should be no excuse; since you are either cop or scum. In this game, i feel the quiet ones should have more of a spotlight on them to give information in my opinion. Their silence could be the end of us, we all need to work together.

CM, you might want to check my previous posts.
There is no one left to post results. Except me. (That's a altogether different story)
So you are just trying to deflect everything inbound.


So based on everything so far, we have Jazzy(KitKat) who have been posting nothing much throughout the game.
He makes a good Lynch target for today.
Then we have Robert who is fighting it out with Jazzy.

Then there is Colonel Medved, who is been claimed as scum by canik.
If it is proved, rafay is also cleared.

Then all this can change based on whether SeaBee is lying.

In my opinion, today's lynch target should be between jazzy and Colonel Medved.
Who as it turns have not turned on each other yet. Adding to my suspicions that they are both scum.
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Town

1) Wolfpacks - correctly discovered the alignment of both TW and Mandarijn, although he didn't know it himself.
2) MK - investigated and found to be guilty by the confirmed insane cop, Wolfpacks. So reversing that, i am comfirmed to be town.


Leaning Town

1) Rafay - have been left alone by almost everyone, which is very rare, thus making him townish in my opinion.
Have results which confirm WP's alignment some more.
You can argue that he is just posting confirmed results. But i am going to let him slide.

2) Robert2424 (sane cop or naive) - he had a not guilty result on TW and also placed the second vote on Mandy, a then potential scum and a note confirmed scum.
There was never a sure chance that TW would have his way and get Mandy to be lynched when Robert placed his vote.
Scum will definitely vote for other scum, but not when there is no need to do so.
TW was not believed by anyone, until late in the day. WP was going against TW all day, so there was a very small chance.
Even i didn't believe TW.
I thought that Brewer's vote on Mandy was just a case of brewers being Brewers.

3) SeaBeeGipson (Insane cop) - investigated Robert and Colonel Medved and got opposite results.
He is too experienced to randomly throw false results.
Of all the cop sanities, Insane is the least favored by scum. You have to out a teammate to do that.
And at this stage, with just 2 scum left, no scum is going to sacrifice the other.

Neutral

Canik - got not guilty on rafay and guilty on Colonel Medved.
So not naive or paranoid.
Either sane or insane.
Needs to investigate more.
Should investigate either of me or Wolfpacks to confirm his sanity.
But then again, he could be scum as well. Since his investigations were on first rafay, someone who is not going to mind someone saying that he are town, and then on Colonel Medved, who was already under heat when Canik posted the results.
But still, it's too risky to put yourself on the line with just 2 scum left.


Leaning Scum

1) Jazzy - have no useful results, from N1 and N2. Then claimed to have investigated Colonel Medved as not guilty.
Could be naive or sane or insane.

2) Colonel Medved - claims to have investigated Brewers to be guilty on n1 and rafay as guilty on n2, thus signaling a paranoid sanity or insanity.
Then he investigated jazzy to be guilty.
So basically, he is trying to establish solidity with two results on townish characters and then a town result on a possible partner.

Interestingly, both ColonelMedved and jazzy posted within 13 minutes of each other, indicating that they are both town.

Voting for one of them today is the natural course.
Other wayward votes are unwanted and suspicious to say the least.

Everyone, please chime in on this discussion. Post what you think of all this.

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I'm basically being lynched because town dropped the ball and never followed up on SB's N1 guilty finding for Robert. There's literally nothing for me to say to stop me from being lynched if you guys feel like lynching me. Robert came up guilty and no one cared, I came up not guilty and no one cared. And a paranoid/insane guy found me guilty so that means nothing.

 

The longshot for Robert is that SeaBee is actually just mafia putting down random names in random order hoping to drive a wedge in town.

 

Based on TW's own categorization of town/leaning/neutral/scum I should at LEAST be in the leaning category:

 

N1: Like a majority of town, Kitkat visited Kevin

N2: Kitkat sat on his hands like a lot of people (a lot of people also visited another dead guy)

N3: I investigated the guy with the most votes.

 

 

 

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Mod note: Shouldn't we have seen TW's findings posted by iSoc since he was publishing cop? Also, can you explain how you chose day cop to work? Mafiascum leaves a lot of room for mod to decide. Obviously not doubting either of their roles now that they're dead lol. Just wondering what's up.


Also, since I won't edit my posts: 

 

2) Robert2424 also placed the second vote on Mandy

 

 

Let's not give that too much weight considering he was also the second vote for Kevin, joke or not.



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Something doesn't sit right with me, the only person I believe is town is MK

I need to have a rethink until then

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Your really digging deep if you think my vote on Kevin meant anything. Everybody was in a hurry to end the day while I was trying unsuccessfully to cause some discussion. If I was fully convinced by Seabee, I would already be voting for you. I investigated him last night for a reason. I don't trust any of the people left.

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Side note: Both mafia can kill?

Mod note: Shouldn't we have seen TW's findings posted by iSoc since he was publishing cop? Also, can you explain how you chose day cop to work? Mafiascum leaves a lot of room for mod to decide. Obviously not doubting either of their roles now that they're dead lol. Just wondering what's up.


1) only one (either one) can kill per night.
2) we didn't see the results of TW because both of his targets turned up dead the next day.
The third day, we didn't get any results.
I think that iSoc interpreted the rules as results published only if the cop survived. It depends on the mod.
Some would publish the results even without the condition that the cop survives (if that's what you meant)
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Night 1: Guilty on Robert2424
Night 2: no action
Night 3: Not Guilty on Jazzy

So based on sanity (not sure what mine is), one of the above two are scum

I investigated seabeegibson. Got not guilty

What were your results on the days before?


 

Was this ever answered?

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Also, did we ever figure out how two towns could've died?


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I'm a bit confused myself how there are two kills. Unless there's a sk?

I investigated tw night 1 not guilty and Brewers n2 nothing. Since you didn't look back at mk who he qouted everyone's in qoutes, or remembered the conversation with everything yesterday why I didn't think tw was scum while wolfpacks did. I mean I guess you didn't catch that since you didn't end up voting for anybody Seabee.
Hince my reasoning for investigating you.

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For this game,
Day cop investigate someone during the Day, they get the results when the day ends and the night begins.

If your target is killed, you get the response of "nothing"
If you are killed no results are given back to your. If you're a publishing cop the same would imply. Your results aren't given to you but instead published. Unless your target or/and you were killed
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