Players:

 

1. brewersalliance (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 6th Gunbearer Wolfpacks, on D9

2. SeaBeeGipson (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 3rd Gunbearer Robert2424, on D5

3. Robert2424 (Vanilla Town) 3rd Gunbearer, died on D6

4. Lachiton (Vanilla Town) survived

5. The Warrior (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 3rd Gunbearer Robert2424, on D4

6. Wolfpacks (Vanilla Town) 6th Gunbearer

7. Lord MK (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 1st Gunbearer KevinH, on D1

8. KevinH (Vanilla Town) 1st Gunbearer, died on D2

9. Rafay (Vanilla Town) 4th Gunbearer, died on D7

10. Sister Midnight (Vanilla Town) 5th Gunbearer, died on D8

11. Velocity (Vanilla Town) 2nd Gunbearer, died on D3

 

Setup:

 

• Before the game starts, mafia must elect a townie to be the gunbearer. That player has until deadline runs out to shoot another player.
• The town discuss amongst themselves, and the gunbearer picks someone to target by posting shoot.
• If their target is mafia, the target dies and the gunbearer keeps the gun. 
• If their target is town, the gunbearer dies and the target becomes the new gunbearer.
• If the gunbearer does not shoot by deadline, they die and the mafia are given 48 hours to pick a new gunbearer. 

 

This is an open setup, all information can be accessed here: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Popcorn_Mafia

 

Rules:

 

• This game is a nightless game, as soon as the gun bearer votes; the action is processed and the next day is started
• You play to win, game throwing will not be tolerated.
• You are not allowed to discuss this game outside of the game thread unless I have given you means to (a quicktopic) or the game is over.
• Offensive comments, Slandering, or slurs will not be tolerated. One warning will be issued for the first offense, and the next offense gets you forced-replaced
• All dead players can no longer participate in the game.
• Do not quote any private communications in this thread, which includes role pms. You may paraphrase. 
• Do not use cryptography, invisible text, tiny text, or the like.
• Breaking one of these rules may, at my discretion, result in a modkill. If you are modkilled, you will become a Neutral Survivor, and thus automatically lose. Modkilling may or may not end the game day.
• Do not edit or delete your posts in this thread. If there is a problem with a post, such as incorrect formatting, ask me to fix it for you.
• You must remain active to be in this game. If you do not post within a 72 hour period you may be force-replaced.
• Rules may be added or subject to change.

Okay, so I've done my best and I gave everybody townie and scum points based on what's gone on, and I read every single post, and heres what I've got. + points are townie, - points are scum, and everybody startss at +1. Brewer is +2 for being very active and using calculations to figure out things. SBG is at +1 for being accused by MK, a scum, but not being active and not helping. Robert is at +1 for being accused by scum, but not doing anything to help. Lach is at +5 because of PM and accused by scum. TW is at +2 for being active and helpful. Wolf is at +1, nothing good, nothing bad on him yet. MK dead. Kevin dead. Rafay is at +0 for being accused by scum but throwing accusations around, and claimed I was scum, which as we all see i am not. SM is at +0 for throwing accusations around. I am confirmed town, as gunbearer. So here is how it breaks down:

 

+0 Rafay

+0 SM

+1 Robert

+1 SBG

+1 Wolf

+2 TW

+2 Brewer

+5 Lach

Confirmed town: Velocity (gunbearer)

Dead: Kevin, MK

So you think that either Rafay or SM (or both) are potentially scum at this point?

So you think that either Rafay or SM (or both) are potentially scum at this point?

I'm not saying what I believe, I'm just stating the points from what I've gathered in who is scummy. For all we know, TW brewer and Wolf are the three last scum, but I am keeping an eye on it. As of now I believe SM should be kept in watchful eye

 

 

Sorry yall. Working 12 to 14 hour days and should slow down here a bit.

 

My thoughts? I dont know if SM is seriously pushing this hard for my lynch based on "I'm always scum" or if she's joking. I definitely need to read back to see what's going on but the only one alive I know is town is Velocity. Lachiton ks highly likely from his post about the roles (was that lachiton?)

 

What stands out to me recently is the tunnel vision on SM and what seems to be a quick wagon forming on me. Why would a scum have just a quick wagon unless some people were jumping on? Maybe because I'm not posting I seem like an easy target. My biggest FoS is DarkFox and TW who seeming 1) jump in to follow and 2) state a soft "if you dont post you got my vote

 

Voting doesnt kill here. It doesnt change whether you vote or FoS. Feels like testing the waters.

 

But for sake of following the voting,

 

Vote: DarkFox

 

Jumping in to vote for me and adding nothing that wasnt already said

 

 

Do you mean Wolfpacks?

Lmao. Yeah my bad.

 

Still we should lynch @DarkFox

Suspicion Count

 

 

"I am serious, and don't call me Shirley."

- Dr. Rumack

 

 

brewersalliance (0):

SeaBeeGipson (1): Wolfpacks

Robert2424 (0):

Lachiton (0): 

The Warrior (0): 

Wolfpacks (2): brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson

Rafay (0):

Sister Midnight (0): 

Velocity (0): 

 

 

Not Voting: Lachiton, The Warrior, Rafay, Sister Midnight, Robert2424, Velocity

 

Deadline is October 15th, 9:00AM CN for Velocity to Shoot

1,2, I think it was you, 3,4, better check it before, 5,6, beat him with some sticks, 7,8, firing guns is great, 9,10, I'm in the devils den..... NOW GET OUT

Sorry yall. Working 12 to 14 hour days and should slow down here a bit.

 

My thoughts? I dont know if SM is seriously pushing this hard for my lynch based on "I'm always scum" or if she's joking. I definitely need to read back to see what's going on but the only one alive I know is town is Velocity. Lachiton ks highly likely from his post about the roles (was that lachiton?)

 

What stands out to me recently is the tunnel vision on SM and what seems to be a quick wagon forming on me. Why would a scum have just a quick wagon unless some people were jumping on? Maybe because I'm not posting I seem like an easy target. My biggest FoS is DarkFox and TW who seeming 1) jump in to follow and 2) state a soft "if you dont post you got my vote

 

Voting doesnt kill here. It doesnt change whether you vote or FoS. Feels like testing the waters.

 

But for sake of following the voting,

 

Vote: DarkFox

 

Jumping in to vote for me and adding nothing that wasnt already said

I’m joking about always scum, but I was serious about your silence. Glad you posted.

Ok, I just read the rest of the stuff written. Why do I get 0 town points, Velocity? That makes no sense to me.

 

Brewsky, I didn’t know the game started until someone contacted me in Discord. I’ve gotten no notifications in my email of any kind.

 

Since finding out the game started I went on vacation, but still posted more than most of the people playing. I have tried to move things forward to help catch scum, including encouraging the bandwagon/vote approach when it was presented as the only way town can win.

I wonder what col medved would do if we all voted Darkfox....would he go crazys. 

 

Anyways, so why would town care if they were to get "shot" since they don't die. They would be the next gun bearer anyways. 

 

But we should be careful. Voting will likely go towards the inactives. If an inactive town dose get shot, they might not get the shot off in time before the deadline....

Every time a townie gets shot the chances of town winning drops, and the shot townie becomes the shooter, which means if they shoot the wrong person (odds are they will), they will die.

"Ok, I just read the rest of the stuff written. Why do I get 0 town points, Velocity? That makes no sense to me."

 

Yes yes, you start with +1, and you went down to +0 because you haven't been active, but I'm willing to put that into vacation, so I'll take that off, so yes, you can have your +1 because while you have tried to help it wasn't really anything that hadn't already been said other then supporting the bandwagon. I fix my mistake, you've got +1

@Lachiton you're the closest I've got to a confirmed ally at this point

@brewer you've been doing the calculations and theories

@TW you've been doing the same as brewer with your theories

You three are the closest i have to confirmed allies, so all three of your input is valuable, so what do y'all think about what I've done with my system and who's the next target?

I'm glad that you are sharing your thoughts. It's beneficial for us to see what everyone is thinking. This game is really unique from most games we've played here because it is going to be primarily based on luck with no real evidence to discover either way. We need everyone to actively participate if we want to give ourselves anything other than pure luck to win. Therefore I think that you pointing out and calling out those who aren't actively participating is as valid a strategy as anything else we have. As a general rule, scum usually don't mind if the game is slow or if there are inactive players because it means that they can effectively blend into that group of people and don't have to post much which could potentially lead to them outing themselves.

 

While we can't actually say with absolute certainty that someone is town (other than the gunbearer), I think that Lachiton is as close to being confirmed that we have and we probably shouldn't need to look his direction to find our remaining scum.

 

Other than Lachiton our three lowest posters currently are SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. We need more out of these three. Please help contribute more to the discussion.

 

Even though this person is near the top of the post count, one person that is sticking out to me a little bit is Robert currently. He is actively posting but his style feels different in this game. Perhaps it is just the game format but this post also stuck out to me:

 

 

 

Anyways, so why would town care if they were to get "shot" since they don't die. They would be the next gun bearer anyways.

 

We should care because if town gets targeted another confirmed townie (the gunbearer) dies. We only get a certain number of misfires.. We should be doing everything we can to hit scum.

@velocity,  one thing I would suggest looking for is anyone who perhaps thinks voting is pointless.  If we dont vote on people, then no one can ever be accused of pushing the shooting of a townie or forming a wagon, and thus all shots are random.  And with their being more town than scum, a random shot always benefits the scum, and would statistically lead to a scum win. Yes we got lucky with the very first shot, but the odds would always be in the scum's favor that way

 

I have an appointment in ten min, but after that I am going to go back through all the posts and see if anyone has advocated against voting/suggested RNG was the best way to go for the shots.

For now, im keeping my vote on wolfpacks, as he has yet to show up and post since i made it  

My appointment never showed so here it goes:

 

so no one really stands out for being heavily against voting.  Just comments here and there saying voting doesnt matter much.  There is a ton of fluf posts and not a lot of substance from a lot of us.  Lachiton, TW, and Velocity have at least made some effort to help figure shit out and analyze people's posts.  Other than that its been a whole lot of nothing burgers from everyone else. 

 

SM has lached on to my idea about votes, and has said she has no clue who scum might be multiple times, and then has thrown accusations out at SBG, but now has said those were just jokes, so its basically all fluff.

 

SBG has been MIA for most of the game, and his only post really of solid substance was being the first to point out lachiton was basically confirmed town

 

Rafay is well rafay.  not much posted that actually helps us

 

Wolfpacks:  Followed MK's vote right away on Rafay and my wake up SBG vote right away (then after I switched my vote to him as been silent)  Other than that, his posts have been basically stating he does not understand how this game us supposed to work

 

Robert has posted a lot in this game, 32 times so far.  Outside of a spat with lachiton and throwing accusations at rafay on d1, his posts have all been either fluff or saying he doesnt understand things about the game.

 

it could just be a coincidence that both robert and wolfpacks have questioned multiple times how the game works (like saying they thought there would be a night phase and wondering if scum get the power to kill, or stating they are trying to figure out the game).  Or it could be an effort to appear like they cant be scum because they dont understand how the game works/the mechanics of the game.  

 

after reading everything, I think those who are standing out the most as potential suspects are those who Velocity placed at the bottom of his list minus rafay (though Mk could have just been trying to bus off him, so hes not free and clear completely) :

 

SM, SBG, Wolfpacks and Robert.  

 

Now I am going to group some people together and see how they interact with each other:

 

SBG and wolfpacks:  I vote SBG to prod him to wake up, wolfpacks follows with a vote on SBG as well without providing any reason for why.  Then SBG finally shows up and places his vote right back on wolfpacks.  Could be both of them trying to appear like they are not partners with the other.  

 

SBG and SM:  SM accuses SBG of being scum multiple times for the main reason that he was scum in previous games, then says it was only a joke after taking heat for it.  Could be an attempt at busing as well

 

Wolfpacks and Robert:  Both posting a lot of nothing and both made multiple posts throughout the game that indicated they do not know the rules or how the format works

 

 

So those are my top four suspects at the moment:

 

Lets break it down even more by town reason v scum reason for why they are doing what they are doing for my top potential suspects.  

 

SM: Laching on to my idea about votes and accusing SBG of being scum.

 

Town Reason:  Agrees with me that voting will give town the best chance to actually figure out who is who, as this way we can actually analyze peoples actions and the game is not random.  And SBG has been very quiet so he could be trying to hide as potential scum.

 

Scum Reason:  Wants to look like she is contributing to helping town find scum and realizes if we start voting, she can use it to create a wagon on a very inactive SBG, who could then be easily shot.  If he is town, then he might end up being an inactive gun bearer (tho there is an auto replacement rule now but if medved cant find the replacement, would it work the old way and the gun-bearer would die?).  If SBG is scum, then it would be a strong bussing move, as she has ecoed her thoughts of him being scum several times

 

SBG:  Fairly inactive this entire game, but is the very first person to point out Lach basically became confirmed town

 

Town reason:  SBG has been inactive all over recently, including the last few games due to RL.  Inactivity from RL does not mean one is scum.  And he pointed out lachiton was town and basically confirmed to remove him from the suspects list to make it easier to find scum

 

Scum reason:  Using RL as a cover to hide out and not be targeted by scum.  Pointed out the Lachiton thing to get as kevin calls them "townie points"

 

Wolfpacks: Fairly inactive, and not posting substance.  Indicates he doesnt understand the game at times.  Votes twice, on rafay after MK and on SBG after me.

 

Town reason:  Same as SBG, RL can cause inactivity and does not mean someone is scum. Furthermore, this is a different format so he might not actually know how it works. Rafay's vote was just a lol vote cause rafay claimed racism again and lets be real, that is annoying As Fuck.  As for SBG, wolfpacks might just think SBG is the most likely scum because of how inactive SBG has been.

 

Scum reason:  Hiding out as inactive, and is pretending to not understand the game to appear less likely that he is town.  Could have been trying to form a wagon on Rafay to get kevin killed if rafay is town, as he is a popular choice, or if rafay was scum to buss from him early.  As for SBG, the same reasons for his vote hold with what was stated for SM

 

Robert:  Has been very active, second most posts but lots of fluff.  Accused Rafay of being potential scum D1 and got into a little spat with lachiton. Has made several comments indicating he is not familiar with the rules: ie) can scum kill, and he thought there was a night phase

 

Town:  trying to be active, as we have no power roles, so unless we are active town have almost no shot at winning this game.  Rafay always acts scummy so its always possible he is scum.  the thing with lachiton could have just been because robert was not fully aware of how the game worked and it seemed lachiton was.  The comments about not knowing how it works is potentially because this is a new game and he truly wasnt sure and wanted clarification

 

Scum Reason:  Trying to appear active and appear like he is hunting scum, as he is usually a top 3 poster and posting less would be suspicious, when in reality the vast majority of his posts have no meaning and are fluff.  Same reasons as stated before about rafay.  As for the thing with lachiton, scum sometimes get defensive when called out for things, so perhaps his actions/spat with lachiton are byproduct of that.  pretending he doesnt know scum cant kill would give him "townie points"

 

 

At this point, I think shooting 1 of these four is the best option and give us the best chance of getting scum.  At most all three of our scum are in this group, and at least I would think two of the final three are here.  As far as which to go with, at the moment I have no strong feelings one way or the other.    We need to hear from EVERYONE on this, including those ive mentioned as suspects in my eyes.  

Clarification, I was joking about suspecting SBG due to usually being scum, but I was serious about his not posting.

Actually i placed my vote and stated it was because i agreed with your reasoning Brewers, secondarily as stated i voted Rafay because he used the racist call again after doing so, so closely after he did it in a previous game, for someone who has supposed to have read back you have missed quite a lot of important stuff, SBG placed his on me because of sour grapes im guessing

 

By the way i said i dont understand it once, i did not continue after that. i get the game now, doesnt take that long to figure it out

wolfpacks posted, so unvote!

 

and good it looks like we finally got people talking a little!  

Not surprised that I'm high on Velocity's list. He's had it for me since the beginning. But take your shot kiddo. You'll be dead with the gun in my hand......

unless you have a blank Rafay , which means he will have a nasty bruise.

interesting style from Brewers. Could you do that with all the players in the game?

interesting style from Brewers. Could you do that with all the players in the game?

yeah sure Ill do everyone but velocity later on today

Not surprised that I'm high on Velocity's list. He's had it for me since the beginning. But take your shot kiddo. You'll be dead with the gun in my hand......

 

Nah you're high on the list because you had a lot of scum stuff going on at the start, also I voted you at the beginning because bandwagon, why not? I'm not giving points based in preference, but rather what speaks scum and what speaks town, so it's not because I have a "thing" for you...

Its nice to see so much talks going on. I will post in the evening after reading all the posts.

 

 

unless you have a blank Rafay , which means he will have a nasty bruise.

 

Not a gun guy. More of a explosives person.