IRON Mafia


 

Sample Role PM said:


You are a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Players:

• Brewersalliance
• CampinKiller (Rhizoctonia)
• Colonel Medved
• iSocialism (SeaBeeGipson), a Town Jailkeeper, has been blown up on night 3.
• KevinH (Brewersalliance), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Voyeur, was smashed by the IRON Christmas tree on night 2.
• Kverst (Mandarijn), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, was killed on night 4.
• Lachiton (Samus), a 1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer, has been lynched on day 6.
• Lord MK (Hertt), a Vanilla Townie, has been lynched on day 4.
• Nadarr (The Warrior), a Town Rolestopper, has retired on night 5.
• Rafay
• Robert (Sister Midnight), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Follower, was killed on night 4.
• SeaBeeGipson (Rhizoctonia), a Town Vanilla Cop, has been stabbed in the back on night 1.

• Sister Midnight (Kevin H), a Town Cop, has been lynched on day 5.

• Wolfpacks (Matt Miller), a Mafia 1-Shot Lynchproof/3-Shot Role Cop, was lynched on day 3.

Rules:

• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
• You may vote no lynch.
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night. The mafia may speak to each other at night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
• After the night, the game goes to day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

• Active Participation Rule:
  All live players must make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. (In the event that something comes up that will prevent you from playing actively, please alert the mod so that a potential replacement can be found.) If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.

Game days will last seven days until there are fewer than seven players remaining. Then they will last as many days as there are players left.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

How come lynch proof means town? And if you were lynch proof why didn't you tell us so before? I am having a hard time you are a lynch proof 3shot cop.

 

@Rhizo - the other role you're looking for who can prevent a lynch is a Governor. Generally gov is a town role but if Gov exists this game and prevented WP's lynch, then that has to be scum aligned gov. No town would have saved a suspected scum who got caught by watcher.

The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

I don’t see hoe you could read it as only town is lynchproof.

Came in and didn't even talk about his actions last night.

Let's Lynch WP

 

Vote: Wolfpacks

 

OP needs to die and you wasted a Lynch.

The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

 

The fact that you hid the information and we wasted a lynch only points to you being scum, so good job with that. I hope a vigi finishes the job tonight

 

 

 

Let's Lynch WP Vote: Wolfpacks OP needs to die and you wasted a Lynch.

 

 

What?...

From my experence, most the time Lynch proof is most the time scum, however can be scum. However, unless we have a vig come forward, I'm leaning for him to be town atm. 

 

@Kverst, your response is interesting. I'm not sure what to make of it. 

 

@Wolfpacks, what did you do last night and results?

Ooc tbh mafia was the furthest from my mind as i had to be more worried about my grieving wife who buried her sister the other day and as i thought i was lynched i didn't do nothing. Shes now back to work and I can concentrate better now.

Ooc tbh mafia was the furthest from my mind as i had to be more worried about my grieving wife who buried her sister the other day and as i thought i was lynched i didn't do nothing. Shes now back to work and I can concentrate better now.

Are you saying you did not know you were lynchproof?

 

Also I’m sorry for your loss.

From my experence, most the time Lynch proof is most the time scum, however can be scum. However, unless we have a vig come forward, I'm leaning for him to be town atm. 

 

I don’t understand what you’re saying exactly. Lynchproof is usually scum, but you think he’s town?

While I've never seen a Lynch proof role in a game, I find it hard to see that role seeing usually scum. My guess would be based on the wiki that the role is usually town.

 

Per the wiki: . It has been known to be of any alignment; however, Lynchproof scum are very difficult to deal with under normal conditions.

 

However, I am not saying this means WP is town. I am saying this most likely means he was a 1 shot Lynch proof, as being fully Lynch proof would probably be over powered. I still think WP is scum. So far no one has come out with any new potential suspects, and if that continues to be the case, it might be worth the risk to Lynch WP again, as I do think he's just a 1 shot because of how powerful that would make him if he's not. Basically if he was fully Lynch proof and scum, and scum found th vig and killed the vig, it would be game over right then and there, and I don't see TW making a game with that big and simple and potentially random of a win condition for the mafia

 

 

P.S I am terribly sorry for your lost WP. I will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers

I would first off like to give my condolences to WP, sorry for your loss.

 

We seem to be split between WP being town or scum. I am still on the side of him being scum, if he was town he would have told us he was lynch proof but we ended up wasting a day (unless he was unaware he was lynch proof, then that's different). 

 

Lets change this up a bit, and try to look past the WP issue since regardless of how we see it he can't be lynched during the day so we might as well talk about other issues. Anyone have any other theories or suspicions?

I would first off like to give my condolences to WP, sorry for your loss.

 

We seem to be split between WP being town or scum. I am still on the side of him being scum, if he was town he would have told us he was lynch proof but we ended up wasting a day (unless he was unaware he was lynch proof, then that's different).

 

Lets change this up a bit, and try to look past the WP issue since regardless of how we see it he can't be lynched during the day so we might as well talk about other issues. Anyone have any other theories or suspicions?

If I had known I would have told you, wasting a whole day is never a good thing

 

 

Thanks for your thoughts, it has been a difficult couple of weeks, but the hardest part is over now the healing begins

Condolences to WP's family.

 

@wolfpacks, i think it's time that your RCed in full

What all are your abilities?

Sorry for your loss WP. My sincerest condolences.

 

 

 

I have to agree with CM that WP misled us and that won't give him townie points. Whatever he did, he cost us a day's lynch. Not a town thing to do.

 

 

 

  Lord MK, on 30 Dec 2018 - 14:13, said: Let's Lynch WP Vote: Wolfpacks OP needs to die and you wasted a Lynch.     What?...

 

 

Exactly. What and how and what some more.

Im Not sure how i misled you i honestly didn't know I was lynchproof, but I already RC I'm a 3 shot cop, I didn't investigate anyone n2 because of circumstances beyond my control

Oh please!!

 

Like the mod didn't include in your role description that you are a lynch-proof 3 shot RC 

Ooc tbh mafia was the furthest from my mind as i had to be more worried about my grieving wife who buried her sister the other day and as i thought i was lynched i didn't do nothing. Shes now back to work and I can concentrate better now.

Ok then, this says he didn't know he was lynch proof. 

 

@sister midnight, I meant Lynch proof is normally a town buff. But since somebody stopped the lynch, he isn't lynch proof, just protected by somebody. 

I kinda hinted towards this earlier, but MK is voting for WP.... that makes no sense what so ever, he is lynch proof so there is no point in voting for him. Unless MK is scum, and attempting to end this day without a lynch.

 

Wanna explain MK?

Oh please!!

 

Like the mod didn't include in your role description that you are a lynch-proof 3 shot RC

Obviously the GOAT doesn't know everything, i was as surprised as everyone else when I was mislynched, i checked wiki and it said lynchproof was mainly town and i've said all along i was town, which means Kverst got false readings

I didn't get "false readings". I saw only you visit SBG the night he died. That's not a "false reading".

Kverst saw you WP visit SBG the night he died and you also said you did visit SBG but only to investigate. So what this "false readings" you're talking about. Also if you're telling the truth, and thats a big IF, that you didnt know about lynch proof thingy, you must have been saved by a gov. If TW didnt mention in your role PM, chances are you're not lynchproof. Bad news for you if that what really transpired is that would mean you're still scum and your scum buddy saved you.

 

Edit : I just saw the terrible news that has befallen on WP. Sorry to hear about your loss WP, may Lord give you and your wife the strength to cope with this grieving moment.

I think we are all in agreement that WP is most likely scum (we came to that yesterday)

 

Right now the question is:  Is it worth the risk to lynch WP?  He might be fully lynch proof and the day would be wasted, or scum might have a governor who stopped the lynch.  He also could be X-shot lynch proof, tho if he was, maybe its 1 maybe its more than one-we just dont know

 

However, I think a scum governor is the least likely of the options, unless they were a 1 shot gov.  per the wiki:Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch.

 

So out of all the options, I think x-shot is the most likely.  Probably just a 1 shot, but then again, maybe not.    I also agree with rafay, if WP was lynch proof, he probably would have been told in his role PM.  Meaning WP was clearly hiding that to make us waste the day with a lynch on him.  He really didnt try very hard to defend himself-I mean If i was scum and knew that lynching me would be pointless, then I wouldnt try too hard to defend myself either.  And I am sure his partners know exactly what kind of lynch proof he is.  

 

Which brings me to the vote by MK.  If WP is a 1 shot lynchproof, would MK be trying to lead a wagon on him today if they are partners?  I doubt it.

 

One crazy idea that i dont think is likely but hey, you never know- Kverst and WP are both scum.  Kverst knew WP was lynchproof, so he outed the scum who made the kill in order to become "confirmed town" while at the same time he knew WP would survive. I would give this a 1% chance of being true.

 

 

Has anyone other than MK cast a vote?

Kverst saw you WP visit SBG the night he died and you also said you did visit SBG but only to investigate. So what this "false readings" you're talking about. Also if you're telling the truth, and thats a big IF, that you didnt know about lynch proof thingy, you must have been saved by a gov. If TW didnt mention in your role PM, chances are you're not lynchproof. Bad news for you if that what really transpired is that would mean you're still scum and your scum buddy saved you.

 

That is a great point Lachiton, this just adds more proof that he is backtracking and doing a bad job at it. 

 

 

I think we are all in agreement that WP is most likely scum (we came to that yesterday)

 

Right now the question is:  Is it worth the risk to lynch WP?  He might be fully lynch proof and the day would be wasted, or scum might have a governor who stopped the lynch.  He also could be X-shot lynch proof, tho if he was, maybe its 1 maybe its more than one-we just dont know

 

However, I think a scum governor is the least likely of the options, unless they were a 1 shot gov.  per the wiki:Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch.

 

So out of all the options, I think x-shot is the most likely.  Probably just a 1 shot, but then again, maybe not.    I also agree with rafay, if WP was lynch proof, he probably would have been told in his role PM.  Meaning WP was clearly hiding that to make us waste the day with a lynch on him.  He really didnt try very hard to defend himself-I mean If i was scum and knew that lynching me would be pointless, then I wouldnt try too hard to defend myself either.  And I am sure his partners know exactly what kind of lynch proof he is.  

 

Which brings me to the vote by MK.  If WP is a 1 shot lynchproof, would MK be trying to lead a wagon on him today if they are partners?  I doubt it.

 

One crazy idea that i dont think is likely but hey, you never know- Kverst and WP are both scum.  Kverst knew WP was lynchproof, so he outed the scum who made the kill in order to become "confirmed town" while at the same time he knew WP would survive. I would give this a 1% chance of being true.

 

 

Has anyone other than MK cast a vote?

 

I don't think it is worth the risk to attempt lynching WP again, i would rather vote for someone i know has a better chance at getting lynched. It would be best to have a PR kill him during the night to guarantee the kill. Though that would be difficult to choose someone else because no other proof has been shown about another player.

 

The theory of Kverst being a partner is interesting, but sounds pretty risky for a new player to go through with. I'm leaning towards Kverst being town for the time being. MK on the other hand is acting suspicious imo. He threw out a vote with little to no explanation other than WP wasting a day. I'm leaning towards MK being scum as of right now until he explains more.

 

I think MK's vote is the only one so far 

Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
iSocialism (0):
Kverst (0):
Lachiton (0):
Lord MK (0):
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Wolfpacks (1): Lord MK

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting:  Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, iSocialism, Kverst, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Robert2424, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

With 12 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 10:00am CN Server time on Friday, January 4th.

I definitely am not in favor of lynching WP and wasting our day.

 

We have to completely start fresh and pick someone new to lynch. But I dunno where to start. We got no leads. 

 

Imo all the mafia could have been on WP train to appear townie.