IRON Mafia


 

Sample Role PM said:


You are a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Players:

• Brewersalliance
• CampinKiller (Rhizoctonia)
• Colonel Medved
• iSocialism (SeaBeeGipson), a Town Jailkeeper, has been blown up on night 3.
• KevinH (Brewersalliance), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Voyeur, was smashed by the IRON Christmas tree on night 2.
• Kverst (Mandarijn), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, was killed on night 4.
• Lachiton (Samus), a 1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer, has been lynched on day 6.
• Lord MK (Hertt), a Vanilla Townie, has been lynched on day 4.
• Nadarr (The Warrior), a Town Rolestopper, has retired on night 5.
• Rafay
• Robert (Sister Midnight), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Follower, was killed on night 4.
• SeaBeeGipson (Rhizoctonia), a Town Vanilla Cop, has been stabbed in the back on night 1.

• Sister Midnight (Kevin H), a Town Cop, has been lynched on day 5.

• Wolfpacks (Matt Miller), a Mafia 1-Shot Lynchproof/3-Shot Role Cop, was lynched on day 3.

Rules:

• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
• You may vote no lynch.
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night. The mafia may speak to each other at night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
• After the night, the game goes to day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

• Active Participation Rule:
  All live players must make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. (In the event that something comes up that will prevent you from playing actively, please alert the mod so that a potential replacement can be found.) If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.

Game days will last seven days until there are fewer than seven players remaining. Then they will last as many days as there are players left.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

From https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lynchproof

Lynchproof

 

A Lynchproof player is a player who is resistant to being lynched. This is very often one-shot, as complete immunity to the lynch prevents players who cannot kill as a function of their role (i.e. Vigilantes) from killing the Lynchproof player.

 

Upon being lynched, a Lynchproof player will not flip (unless they actually die).

 

Lynchproof is a rare role that is generally only seen in role madness games. It has been known to be of any alignment; however, Lynchproof scum are very difficult to deal with under normal conditions.

 

Variations

The main article to this page is Bulletproof. Deathproof is a variant that combines Bulletproof and Lynchproof; however, it balances more closely to Lynchproof.

 

Use and Power

Lynchproof roles generally only appear where they fit flavor. In Town hands, its power is only moderate, but in scum hands, it's very powerful (pending how necessary the lynch is for players to get killed in general).

Which leads us to https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Madness

 

Role Madness refers to a type of game where most or all of the players have power roles; that is, there are few to no true Vanilla Townies. Because there are so many power roles, the veracity or effectiveness of Night Actions is very difficult to determine without knowledge of what the other players did. Role Madness games have been known to include unique roles designed by the moderator's whim as well, further increasing the potential for confusion.

 

Role Madness games are not to be confused with bastard mod games. In the former, the confusion stems from the sheer number of role interactions. In the latter, the confusion comes from the moderator omitting vital details about players' roles (if not lying to them outright).

 

Because the game hinges so much on players' Night choices and the number of possibilities to account for are so high, balancing a Role Madness game can only be rough at best. When reviewing a power-heavy game like this, the two things that must be checked for are broken combinations (i.e. if everyone claimed, could a group of players use their Night action to dominate the game? If not, could they do it after a certain player dies?) and whether any one faction can become grossly more powerful than the other(s).

 

The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).

So it is likely that almost everyone has a power role and which greatly increases the chances of more than one of each role and, of course misinterpreting night actions.

 

Nonetheless, I am still inclined to believe WP is scum.

I do have to agree with you that WP is probably scum. But Seabee was a Vanilla cop, which either was a red herring or it means there might be a decent amount of vanilla roles

 

So maybe this is a role madness game or maybe it's balanced. Either way, WP is still most likely scum, but it's not worth the risk to Lynch him quickly today, unless we have no other viable candidates. It would be very hard to come back from basically three straight no lynches

KevinH (Brewersalliance), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Voyeur was smashed by the IRON Christmas tree on night 2.

 

Bah! Humbug!

So a lynch proof is a town or scum role, or can be both? If WP is truly scum, we can always have vig (if exists of course) to kill him. As brewers no need to lynch rush WP again as we may lose another opportunity to lynch.

On second thought, I am leaning scum on WP. Not only did he not mention about this as any another town would have when he knew he will be the one to get lynched, also lynch proof sounds scum role.

 

Or I remember there being a role who can prevent a lynch. Don't remember the exact role but I think it was a scum role. Of that exists then WP is sure shot scum.

Lachiton makes good sense here. I have never seen this happen before and don't know what to make of it. Though I will say we must be careful if there are many power roles out there. This game must be played smart from here on because mislynching could cost us dearly. I believe WP is scum, but would like to propose not trying to lynch him again today in case he is completely lynch proof. That would just screw us over in the end. With the possibility of having a Vig, it would be a much better idea to convince them to go after WP then to wast another day. I could be wrong. Opinions?

Yes vig can be our other option if WP is completely lynch proof. But if he is then he is most definitely x-shot.

 

The other possibility is presence of role who can prevent lynch, as I said before. I think it's Governor or something. And since that person prevented this lynch, then WP has to be scum.

I definitely agree he is scum. I just don't want to see us throw away s lynch that could be better used if we can figure out a new scum.

 

 

I think it's Governor or something. And since that person prevented this lynch, then WP has to be scum.

 

 

Are you saying that its possible a governor prevented the lynch or that you know for a fact a governor prevented the lynch?  The way you worded your post sounds like you might now his lynch was prevented by a gov.

Yup agree. Also if the lynch was prevented someone other than WP, then he has partners. Will his wagon analysis help then? Who else jumped on his wagon and when? Or they may have already known that he is not gonna get lynched so joined very quickly on the lynch.

 

I think it's Governor or something. And since that person prevented this lynch, then WP has to be scum.

 

Are you saying that its possible a governor prevented the lynch or that you know for a fact a governor prevented the lynch? The way you worded your post sounds like you might now his lynch was prevented by a gov.

Nope I just presented a possibility. But if Gov did prevent the lynch, then both the gov and WP (unless WP is gov) are scum buddies. No town member would have prevented that lynch for sure, has to be scum.

@brewers why did u quote that part and igonored the preceding sentence when I specifically mentioned that there MIGHT be a role who can prevent lynch? Without that sentence of course it will sound like I know Gov prevented the lynch.

 

 

Nope I just presented a possibility. But if Gov did prevent the lynch, then both the gov and WP (unless WP is gov) are scum buddies. No town member would have prevented that lynch for sure, has to be scum.

 

 

ahh okay makes sense. wasnt sure if you had any extra info that scum had a gov or something.  thanks for the clarification lol

 

I do agree if we have a vig, that can be a surefire way to make sure we get WP, tho im guessing we dont have one, since the vig would have probably just shot him last night- tho it is possible that if we have a vig, they didnt shoot WP because TW did leave it pretty ambiguous if WP was killed or if he just forgot to post his death 

Presence of a lynch proof or gov makes me think there is a vig. Otherwise how we can kill scum lol.

 

WP lynch was ambiguous af. I initially thought TW forgot to flip him. Now I realized he was never lynched lol.

I quoted the second part and not the first cause it kind of clashed with the first part. Hence my confusion. The first part sounded like you were just suggesting there could be a gov and the second part it sounded like you knew for a fact there was one. Just wanted some clarification, which you did provide

And true good point, if we don't have a vig we basically have no way of winning if he's Lynch proof so there has to be a vig

Oh shit. I was a character, and I wasn't a Jester. I thought for sure if I was in the game id be a Jester.

Oh shit. I was a character, and I wasn't a Jester. I thought for sure if I was in the game id be a Jester.

Your character is a voyeur?! Hilarity may now ensue.

 

Oh shit. I was a character, and I wasn't a Jester. I thought for sure if I was in the game id be a Jester.

Hahaha what can I say? I'm a creep. Shoe foot plz

 

Your character is a voyeur?! Hilarity may now ensue.

Why did my post show up In your quote? Lol

The question is, who did WP investigate last night? If he is truly the cop he should had investigate someone last night, and should have an answer for us.

As well as kverst.

I'm assuming of course that he investigated Kevin. WP full hearty believe him to be scum, and magically Kevin was killed that same night. Therefore the scum are just trying to set him up.

Is it possible that a Coroner is in play? That would also explain WP not getting lynched

From the wiki:. A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics.

 

So I don't think that would stop him from being killed

Wow this is absolutely a shocker. But the mod should have at least told us that WP didn't die so we could have adjusted our night actions accordingly. Maybe WP is  TheWarrior; president of IRON which would give him the ability to be protected from a simple majority lynch. 

 

No tears will be shed for losing Kevin. He wasn't much active or of use in the game.

 

Eagerly awaiting Kverst and WPs posts now.

If I was to reveal my actions last night, it would show whether or not I have buffs or restrictions on my role. As such, I will abstain from sharing anything for now. As we know WP is scum because I saw him kill SBG and something saved him, that should be fine. 

Well if you did not learn anything that provides any information we can use to help find the other two scum, then there really is not much need to share anything.  

From the wiki:. A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics.

 

So I don't think that would stop him from being killed

 

Nevermind, at the time that i looked at it i was under the impression that WP did die and his role was not revealed, which would have been a characteristic of a Coroner

If in fact WP is a lynchproof scum, then there would have to be a vig or 2 in order to kill him, or he's lynchproof only once.  I can't think a game would exist where if scum hit the vig on a night action they can't lose because he can't be lynched.

 

Only way if WP is a lynchproof scum

 

-Limited lynchproof of 1

-Multiple town Vigs

-Town Vig + Town JOAT

-Backup Vig role

-Vig role cannot be killed at night

 

This is the first game I've seen someone not killed by a lynch so I'll have to refresh on other possible roles that could of prevented this.  With TW not giving a list of possible roles, and the fact someone just survived a lynch, this game is setup quite unique.  

 

I am still under the impression that WP is scum.  If in fact he wasn't scum and is town, and he was telling the truth that he's a 3 shot cop, why wouldn't scum pick him off last night?  The only reason to keep him alive would be to use him again today as a mislynch, but even still he'd be able to supply information on who he investigated last night, either putting a scum at risk or revealing a verified town person.

 

I'll wait to see what WP has to say