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[Colonel Medved]

@CM, So why are you so certain that it's a infinite lynchproof ability? For all that's worth, 1-shot is like the maximum a mod can give on a super OP role such as Lynchproof, Killproof, Immortal.

 

I'm not saying that i'm certain, but is it worth risking the possibility that it could go without another lynch 2 days in a row? Why are you so certain that it is only a 1 shot, and not a 2 or 3 shot?

 

 

At this moment. I'm strongly leaning town with you. 

 

Rafay and MK have pinged my radar as potential scum with them trying to relynch WP after we not sure exactly how WP wasn't lynched the first time. Or if the ability is 1 shot or not, we do not know that info. 

 

However, I'm unsure about everyone else. 

 

Rafay is being extra passive today though, and it doesn't sit well with me either. 

 

Vote Rafay

 

Even though i agree with this, i can't pin that as him being scum. In recent games Rafay seems to have changed the way he plays. Last game i thought the same thing and he flipped town, i rather not risk it for the time being until more proof was to arise.

 

For the time being though, i agree with Brewers. I'm not 100% certain about it, but we got nothing else to go off of. MK is willing to risk another lynch-less day, and i find that odd. For the time being i will be voting for him.

 

Vote MK

 

[Robert2424]

Its day one, you expect me to figure out scum teams?

[brewersalliance]

Its day one, you expect me to figure out scum teams?

I think you posted in the wrong game lol

[Robert2424]

yeah.... I have them open in sperate tabs at the same time. 

 

But all the same, I can't think of any scum teams, I've always been bad at that. Could be you and mk. Anybody guess would be good honestly. 

[Lord MK]

Why am i being thought of as scum in all the games around here?

I am almost never scum. But i guess that CM is dead bent on killing me.
So good luck, CM. I really hope that you get killed tonight, for town's sake.

Vote: Colonel Medved

[iSocialism]

This day has been so confusing to me

[Kverst]

We probably shouldn't waste another lynch on WP. MK's immediate attempt to re-lynch and possibly waste another lynch is suspicious though. If we have to lynch someone else, I'd go for him. 

 

Vote MK

[Colonel Medved]

Why am i being thought of as scum in all the games around here?

I am almost never scum. But i guess that CM is dead bent on killing me.
So good luck, CM. I really hope that you get killed tonight, for town's sake.

Vote: Colonel Medved

 

I'm not "dead bent" on killing you, i have reasoning for my suspicions. And I don't always suspect you of being scum in all the mafia games, your actions make you look like scum. You decided to jump out of no where with a vote on someone who is known to be lynch-less, which is very risky play that seems scummy. And now you are OMGUS-ing me, which is incriminating you even more in my eyes.

 

Don't throw the game when the odds turn against you, try to explain your actions. I'll ask again, why are you so certain that it was only a 1 shot lynch proof? Are you willing to risk another lynchless day for it when a PR could possibly finish the job during the night?

[brewersalliance]

can we get an updated vote count?  also it feels like a lot of people have been pretty quiet today

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (1): Lord MK
iSocialism (0):
Kverst (0):
Lachiton (0):
Lord MK (3): Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Kverst
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (1): Robert2424
Rhizoctonia (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting:  iSocialism, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

With 12 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 10:00am CN Server time on Friday, January 4th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed: Rhizoctonia (1 post on day 3)

[Rhizoctonia]

Sorry for absense, spent my holidays with family. Will read up later and post thoughts

[Lord MK]

Why am i being thought of as scum in all the games around here?

I am almost never scum. But i guess that CM is dead bent on killing me.
So good luck, CM. I really hope that you get killed tonight, for town's sake.

Vote: Colonel Medved

I'm not "dead bent" on killing you, i have reasoning for my suspicions. And I don't always suspect you of being scum in all the mafia games, your actions make you look like scum. You decided to jump out of no where with a vote on someone who is known to be lynch-less, which is very risky play that seems scummy. And now you are OMGUS-ing me, which is incriminating you even more in my eyes.

Don't throw the game when the odds turn against you, try to explain your actions. I'll ask again, why are you so certain that it was only a 1 shot lynch proof? Are you willing to risk another lynchless day for it when a PR could possibly finish the job during the night?

Because lynchproof is too OP to be more than 1-shot.
I am willing to risk it for confirming it.

And why do you feel that there's a friendly Vig or any town killer out there?
Are you that Vig?
If yes, then okay.
If no, then what makes you that role is there in the game?
What if TW included a false in the game?

As an experienced mod, TW in my opinion, makes a well balanced game.
So he needs to balance everything out.
And a false is a great way to do that.

[Wolfpacks]

I'm more then happy to investigate someone and tell you my findings.

[Rafay]

I'm more then happy to investigate someone and tell you my findings.

 

Yeah, here's the thing. We don't trust you buddy. 

[Wolfpacks]

That's cool, tbh i dont trust you either

[Rafay]

That's cool, tbh i dont trust you either

 

Don't try to pin this on me bud. You're the one with strange powers that you supposedly weren't told about. 

[Lachiton]

What's a false btw?

MK does have a point though. Lynch proof is too powerful of a role to be infinite shot. But with that being said it can be definitely be more than one shot. Also don't agree with his assertion there might not be a vig. If talking about balance it makes sense to expect the presence of a vig.

To me WP is scum but tbh I am not getting strong scum feeling from MK. Just because he is trying to lynch WP again doesn't make him scum. But there's a definite risk of trying to lynch him again as we can't waste another lynch. I am bit unsure as well what to do.

Expecting everyone to chip in as we are getting close to deadline and we need to decide fast.

[Sister Midnight]

Would TW make someone completely lynchproof without telling them? Doubtful, but possible imo.

At least 2 peeps visited SBG N1. Kverst watched SBG and saw WP. Believable role claim from Kverst. WP claims he’s a 3 shot cop, which if true, means a 3rd person killed SBG, but Kverst somehow did not see them. We attempt to lynch WP, he’s lynchproof. It seem super likely right now that WP is some kind of scum. But on the other hand lynchproof is more often town. So if we try to lynch WP again he maybe genuinely lynchproof or he might come up town, which would suck dirt.

There’s a good chance we have a Vig, but we don’t know for sure, and they should not RC at this point in the game.

Meanwhile we have people judging scuminess on whether someone wants a relynch or not. I think a good argument could be made by town for either option, and I’m not opposed to a relynch attempt if we don’t come up with a better suspect. But I’d rather find a better suspect and hope for a vigilante to act tonight.

[Rhizoctonia]

Well I read hoping there was something interesting or helpful that had been revealed while I was away enjoying some time with my family and see it hasn't.

I'm kinda lost on why MK is being put up because he wants to lynch WP who I have stated on a few occasions I believe is likely scum. Unless someone has something else on MK and that's their reason which could be what's happening here. Just because WP wasn't able to be lynched yesterday doesn't necessarily mean he can't today, but not knowing exactly how it happened is a problem. If he in fact he is lynchproof doesn't mean he is all game

To WP defense, I don't know ow why people assume he knew he was lynchproof. A lot of times things like "weak roles" or a ascetic modifier isn't known so he very well may have not known. That being said that doesn't Grant him any town points for me, just think the possibility he wasn't told is possible, if in fact that's what stopped it.

I dunno, looks like ATM we have 2 options. I think WP is the right vote because I believe he's scum(only reason not to is if we can't Lynch avgain), and MK I don't believe deserves all the suspicion of wanting to Lynch WP unless someone on wagon knows something more rest of us don't.

[Lord MK]

@lachiton,

A false is a false lead.

Like having a lynchproof to make everyone think there's a vig. But there's no vig in reality.
Here, it may because the addition of vig will seriously tilt the balance towards town.
Maybe the scum team is vulnerable, so tw may have given an extra protection.

If someone is lynchproof, and that person is scum, their power is a game changer when they are about to be lynched when there's just 3 or 4 players left.
WP blew that protection way early.