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[Wolfpacks]

Im Not sure how i misled you i honestly didn't know I was lynchproof, but I already RC I'm a 3 shot cop, I didn't investigate anyone n2 because of circumstances beyond my control

[Rafay]

Oh please!!

 

Like the mod didn't include in your role description that you are a lynch-proof 3 shot RC 

[Robert2424]

Ooc tbh mafia was the furthest from my mind as i had to be more worried about my grieving wife who buried her sister the other day and as i thought i was lynched i didn't do nothing. Shes now back to work and I can concentrate better now.

Ok then, this says he didn't know he was lynch proof. 

 

@sister midnight, I meant Lynch proof is normally a town buff. But since somebody stopped the lynch, he isn't lynch proof, just protected by somebody. 

[Colonel Medved]

I kinda hinted towards this earlier, but MK is voting for WP.... that makes no sense what so ever, he is lynch proof so there is no point in voting for him. Unless MK is scum, and attempting to end this day without a lynch.

 

Wanna explain MK?

[Wolfpacks]

Oh please!!

Like the mod didn't include in your role description that you are a lynch-proof 3 shot RC

Obviously the GOAT doesn't know everything, i was as surprised as everyone else when I was mislynched, i checked wiki and it said lynchproof was mainly town and i've said all along i was town, which means Kverst got false readings

[Kverst]

I didn't get "false readings". I saw only you visit SBG the night he died. That's not a "false reading".

[Lachiton]

Kverst saw you WP visit SBG the night he died and you also said you did visit SBG but only to investigate. So what this "false readings" you're talking about. Also if you're telling the truth, and thats a big IF, that you didnt know about lynch proof thingy, you must have been saved by a gov. If TW didnt mention in your role PM, chances are you're not lynchproof. Bad news for you if that what really transpired is that would mean you're still scum and your scum buddy saved you.

 

Edit : I just saw the terrible news that has befallen on WP. Sorry to hear about your loss WP, may Lord give you and your wife the strength to cope with this grieving moment.

[brewersalliance]

I think we are all in agreement that WP is most likely scum (we came to that yesterday)

 

Right now the question is:  Is it worth the risk to lynch WP?  He might be fully lynch proof and the day would be wasted, or scum might have a governor who stopped the lynch.  He also could be X-shot lynch proof, tho if he was, maybe its 1 maybe its more than one-we just dont know

 

However, I think a scum governor is the least likely of the options, unless they were a 1 shot gov.  per the wiki:Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch.

 

So out of all the options, I think x-shot is the most likely.  Probably just a 1 shot, but then again, maybe not.    I also agree with rafay, if WP was lynch proof, he probably would have been told in his role PM.  Meaning WP was clearly hiding that to make us waste the day with a lynch on him.  He really didnt try very hard to defend himself-I mean If i was scum and knew that lynching me would be pointless, then I wouldnt try too hard to defend myself either.  And I am sure his partners know exactly what kind of lynch proof he is.  

 

Which brings me to the vote by MK.  If WP is a 1 shot lynchproof, would MK be trying to lead a wagon on him today if they are partners?  I doubt it.

 

One crazy idea that i dont think is likely but hey, you never know- Kverst and WP are both scum.  Kverst knew WP was lynchproof, so he outed the scum who made the kill in order to become "confirmed town" while at the same time he knew WP would survive. I would give this a 1% chance of being true.

 

 

Has anyone other than MK cast a vote?

[Colonel Medved]

Kverst saw you WP visit SBG the night he died and you also said you did visit SBG but only to investigate. So what this "false readings" you're talking about. Also if you're telling the truth, and thats a big IF, that you didnt know about lynch proof thingy, you must have been saved by a gov. If TW didnt mention in your role PM, chances are you're not lynchproof. Bad news for you if that what really transpired is that would mean you're still scum and your scum buddy saved you.

 

That is a great point Lachiton, this just adds more proof that he is backtracking and doing a bad job at it. 

 

 

I think we are all in agreement that WP is most likely scum (we came to that yesterday)

 

Right now the question is:  Is it worth the risk to lynch WP?  He might be fully lynch proof and the day would be wasted, or scum might have a governor who stopped the lynch.  He also could be X-shot lynch proof, tho if he was, maybe its 1 maybe its more than one-we just dont know

 

However, I think a scum governor is the least likely of the options, unless they were a 1 shot gov.  per the wiki:Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch.

 

So out of all the options, I think x-shot is the most likely.  Probably just a 1 shot, but then again, maybe not.    I also agree with rafay, if WP was lynch proof, he probably would have been told in his role PM.  Meaning WP was clearly hiding that to make us waste the day with a lynch on him.  He really didnt try very hard to defend himself-I mean If i was scum and knew that lynching me would be pointless, then I wouldnt try too hard to defend myself either.  And I am sure his partners know exactly what kind of lynch proof he is.  

 

Which brings me to the vote by MK.  If WP is a 1 shot lynchproof, would MK be trying to lead a wagon on him today if they are partners?  I doubt it.

 

One crazy idea that i dont think is likely but hey, you never know- Kverst and WP are both scum.  Kverst knew WP was lynchproof, so he outed the scum who made the kill in order to become "confirmed town" while at the same time he knew WP would survive. I would give this a 1% chance of being true.

 

 

Has anyone other than MK cast a vote?

 

I don't think it is worth the risk to attempt lynching WP again, i would rather vote for someone i know has a better chance at getting lynched. It would be best to have a PR kill him during the night to guarantee the kill. Though that would be difficult to choose someone else because no other proof has been shown about another player.

 

The theory of Kverst being a partner is interesting, but sounds pretty risky for a new player to go through with. I'm leaning towards Kverst being town for the time being. MK on the other hand is acting suspicious imo. He threw out a vote with little to no explanation other than WP wasting a day. I'm leaning towards MK being scum as of right now until he explains more.

 

I think MK's vote is the only one so far 

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
iSocialism (0):
Kverst (0):
Lachiton (0):
Lord MK (0):
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Wolfpacks (1): Lord MK

 

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting:  Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, iSocialism, Kverst, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Robert2424, Sister Midnight, Wolfpacks

With 12 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 10:00am CN Server time on Friday, January 4th.

[Rafay]

I definitely am not in favor of lynching WP and wasting our day.

 

We have to completely start fresh and pick someone new to lynch. But I dunno where to start. We got no leads. 

 

Imo all the mafia could have been on WP train to appear townie.

[brewersalliance]

brewersalliance 72 Nadarr 39 Robert2424 34 Colonel Medved 26 Sister Midnight 25 The Warrior 23 Lachiton 21 Wolfpacks 17 Rafay 16 iSocialism 15 Kverst 15 KevinH 14 Lord MK 12 Rhizoctonia 9 SeaBeeGipson 9 CampinKiller 4

 

 

Rhizo was a replacement for Campin, so I am not going to hold it against him he has the least posts, plus he has actually been attempting to contribute to the game.  MK has not been doing much this game and his vote on WP today just feels weird.  Maybe he is a 3rd party scum like a SK or something, idk.  If MK is scum and is Mafia, I would guess that means WP is fully lynchproof.  

 

The more I think of it, the more MK sticks out to me.  Lets look at the original attempt to vote off WP.

 

Wolfpacks (7): Brewersalliance, Kverst, Lachiton, Colonel Medved, Rafay, iSocialism, Sister Midnight

 

 

MK voted for WP, but only after the hammer was cast.  He did not actually join the wagon until after WP was hammered in.  

 

Vote: Wolfpacks More nails in the coffin. Good luck, town.

  

 

This could have been an attempt to blend in with the wagon so he could say, see? I tried to lynch scum.  If MK is a SK, he could just be trying to blend with town and appear to be on the wagon of a scum lynch.  If MK is mafia with WP, then he could have known that WP was not going to die, but he wanted to be on the wagon anyways.

 

Either way, his actions this game have just felt off.  He has contributed little to nothing this entire game, and now hes trying to lead a lynch on a guy who was already lynched and didnt die.  I feel one of two things is going to be the case:  MK is the SK and Wolfpacks is a x-shot lynch proof scum, OR MK and WP are both mafia and Wolfpacks is just fully lynchproof.  If the second one is the case we will have to have multiple town killing roles, as WP would need a way to die

 

so unless someone actually comes out with any solid info, i think this is our best course of action for now

 

vote:  MK

 

and then a town vig or JOAT with a vig ability should kill WP at night obviously

My money right now is on MK as the SK

[Lord MK]

@CM, So why are you so certain that it's a infinite lynchproof ability?
For all that's worth, 1-shot is like the maximum a mod can give on a super OP role such as Lynchproof, Killproof, Immortal.

WP would definitely have been informed that he was a lynchproof in his role PM.
And as there is no other way to know your role, he definitely checked it.
Him denying that, is the biggest red flag imo.

And scum decided to play the "don't waste another lynch" card today after they lost that 1-shot.
Hence why i voted WP.

And Brewers, you are just blindly assuming that there is a vig somewhere out there.
I would say that there must be a good proportion of Vanilla roles all round. Just because everyone(almost everyone?) who died till now had a role doesn't mean that everyone has.

If i am the SK, WP would already be dead.
I don't like the concept of lynchproof.
The lynch is town's most powerful weapon and as SK, i would want town and scum to keep on killing each other.

[Lachiton]

Presence of a lynch proof or gov in the scum is a huge advantage to them. So expecting the presence of a vig makes perfect sense.

[Rafay]

Here's what I suggest:

 

We try to lynch WP a second time. If he gets lynched then all is good. If not, the vig or power role to counter WPs power should kill WP. If WP isn't lynched then we take out MK next day. What say?

[Wolfpacks]

Why would i lie about being lynchproof, if i was told, do you really think i would actually tell you about it, nope id be laughing my arse off lol

[Robert2424]

I don't see the point in trying to lynch WP again. I think its not only silly it is dumb. I say give Wolfpacks tonight to use his ability. A Cop role shouldn't be overlooked. Then tomorrow we can look at him again. If Wolfpacks doesn't know who or what stopped the Lynch, it could happen to anybody. Plus an ability to stop a lynch, is probably x shot and we don't know for sure if it town or anti who stopped it for sure. 

 

We need to look at other options then just the Wolfpack lynch that didn't happen. We only have to 4th to make a decision though. 

[brewersalliance]

We need to look at other options then just the Wolfpack lynch that didn't happen

 

 

Do you have any strong feelings towards any players?

[Robert2424]

At this moment. I'm strongly leaning town with you. 

 

Rafay and MK have pinged my radar as potential scum with them trying to relynch WP after we not sure exactly how WP wasn't lynched the first time. Or if the ability is 1 shot or not, we do not know that info. 

 

However, I'm unsure about everyone else. 

 

Rafay is being extra passive today though, and it doesn't sit well with me either. 

 

Vote Rafay

[Rafay]

Wow. If I were scum why would I suggest to kill Lord MK on the next day and ask vig to kill WP tonight who are my partners???