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From the wiki:. A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics.

So I don't think that would stop him from being killed


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Wow this is absolutely a shocker. But the mod should have at least told us that WP didn't die so we could have adjusted our night actions accordingly. Maybe WP is  TheWarrior; president of IRON which would give him the ability to be protected from a simple majority lynch. 

 

No tears will be shed for losing Kevin. He wasn't much active or of use in the game.

 

Eagerly awaiting Kverst and WPs posts now.


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If I was to reveal my actions last night, it would show whether or not I have buffs or restrictions on my role. As such, I will abstain from sharing anything for now. As we know WP is scum because I saw him kill SBG and something saved him, that should be fine. 


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Well if you did not learn anything that provides any information we can use to help find the other two scum, then there really is not much need to share anything.  



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From the wiki:. A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics.

So I don't think that would stop him from being killed

 

Nevermind, at the time that i looked at it i was under the impression that WP did die and his role was not revealed, which would have been a characteristic of a Coroner


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If in fact WP is a lynchproof scum, then there would have to be a vig or 2 in order to kill him, or he's lynchproof only once.  I can't think a game would exist where if scum hit the vig on a night action they can't lose because he can't be lynched.

 

Only way if WP is a lynchproof scum

 

-Limited lynchproof of 1

-Multiple town Vigs

-Town Vig + Town JOAT

-Backup Vig role

-Vig role cannot be killed at night

 

This is the first game I've seen someone not killed by a lynch so I'll have to refresh on other possible roles that could of prevented this.  With TW not giving a list of possible roles, and the fact someone just survived a lynch, this game is setup quite unique.  

 

I am still under the impression that WP is scum.  If in fact he wasn't scum and is town, and he was telling the truth that he's a 3 shot cop, why wouldn't scum pick him off last night?  The only reason to keep him alive would be to use him again today as a mislynch, but even still he'd be able to supply information on who he investigated last night, either putting a scum at risk or revealing a verified town person.

 

I'll wait to see what WP has to say 


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The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

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The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

How come lynch proof means town? And if you were lynch proof why didn't you tell us so before? I am having a hard time you are a lynch proof 3shot cop.

@Rhizo - the other role you're looking for who can prevent a lynch is a Governor. Generally gov is a town role but if Gov exists this game and prevented WP's lynch, then that has to be scum aligned gov. No town would have saved a suspected scum who got caught by watcher.



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The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side


I don’t see hoe you could read it as only town is lynchproof.

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Let's Lynch WP

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The way I read it only town was lynchproof, so if I was scum why would I still be alive, told you this before, I'm on your side

 

The fact that you hid the information and we wasted a lynch only points to you being scum, so good job with that. I hope a vigi finishes the job tonight

 

Let's Lynch WP Vote: Wolfpacks OP needs to die and you wasted a Lynch.
 

 

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From my experence, most the time Lynch proof is most the time scum, however can be scum. However, unless we have a vig come forward, I'm leaning for him to be town atm. 

 

@Kverst, your response is interesting. I'm not sure what to make of it. 

 

@Wolfpacks, what did you do last night and results?


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Ooc tbh mafia was the furthest from my mind as i had to be more worried about my grieving wife who buried her sister the other day and as i thought i was lynched i didn't do nothing. Shes now back to work and I can concentrate better now.

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Ooc tbh mafia was the furthest from my mind as i had to be more worried about my grieving wife who buried her sister the other day and as i thought i was lynched i didn't do nothing. Shes now back to work and I can concentrate better now.


Are you saying you did not know you were lynchproof?

Also I’m sorry for your loss.

From my experence, most the time Lynch proof is most the time scum, however can be scum. However, unless we have a vig come forward, I'm leaning for him to be town atm. 
 


I don’t understand what you’re saying exactly. Lynchproof is usually scum, but you think he’s town?

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While I've never seen a Lynch proof role in a game, I find it hard to see that role seeing usually scum. My guess would be based on the wiki that the role is usually town.

Per the wiki: . It has been known to be of any alignment; however, Lynchproof scum are very difficult to deal with under normal conditions.

However, I am not saying this means WP is town. I am saying this most likely means he was a 1 shot Lynch proof, as being fully Lynch proof would probably be over powered. I still think WP is scum. So far no one has come out with any new potential suspects, and if that continues to be the case, it might be worth the risk to Lynch WP again, as I do think he's just a 1 shot because of how powerful that would make him if he's not. Basically if he was fully Lynch proof and scum, and scum found th vig and killed the vig, it would be game over right then and there, and I don't see TW making a game with that big and simple and potentially random of a win condition for the mafia


P.S I am terribly sorry for your lost WP. I will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers


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I would first off like to give my condolences to WP, sorry for your loss.

 

We seem to be split between WP being town or scum. I am still on the side of him being scum, if he was town he would have told us he was lynch proof but we ended up wasting a day (unless he was unaware he was lynch proof, then that's different). 

 

Lets change this up a bit, and try to look past the WP issue since regardless of how we see it he can't be lynched during the day so we might as well talk about other issues. Anyone have any other theories or suspicions?


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I would first off like to give my condolences to WP, sorry for your loss.

We seem to be split between WP being town or scum. I am still on the side of him being scum, if he was town he would have told us he was lynch proof but we ended up wasting a day (unless he was unaware he was lynch proof, then that's different).

Lets change this up a bit, and try to look past the WP issue since regardless of how we see it he can't be lynched during the day so we might as well talk about other issues. Anyone have any other theories or suspicions?

If I had known I would have told you, wasting a whole day is never a good thing


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Condolences to WP's family.

@wolfpacks, i think it's time that your RCed in full
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Sorry for your loss WP. My sincerest condolences.

 

 

 

I have to agree with CM that WP misled us and that won't give him townie points. Whatever he did, he cost us a day's lynch. Not a town thing to do.

 

  Lord MK, on 30 Dec 2018 - 14:13, said: Let's Lynch WP Vote: Wolfpacks OP needs to die and you wasted a Lynch.     What?...
 

 

Exactly. What and how and what some more.


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