IRON Mafia


 

Sample Role PM said:


You are a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Players:

• Brewersalliance
• CampinKiller (Rhizoctonia)
• Colonel Medved
• iSocialism (SeaBeeGipson), a Town Jailkeeper, has been blown up on night 3.
• KevinH (Brewersalliance), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Voyeur, was smashed by the IRON Christmas tree on night 2.
• Kverst (Mandarijn), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, was killed on night 4.
• Lachiton (Samus), a 1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer, has been lynched on day 6.
• Lord MK (Hertt), a Vanilla Townie, has been lynched on day 4.
• Nadarr (The Warrior), a Town Rolestopper, has retired on night 5.
• Rafay
• Robert (Sister Midnight), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Follower, was killed on night 4.
• SeaBeeGipson (Rhizoctonia), a Town Vanilla Cop, has been stabbed in the back on night 1.

• Sister Midnight (Kevin H), a Town Cop, has been lynched on day 5.

• Wolfpacks (Matt Miller), a Mafia 1-Shot Lynchproof/3-Shot Role Cop, was lynched on day 3.

Rules:

• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
• You may vote no lynch.
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night. The mafia may speak to each other at night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
• After the night, the game goes to day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

• Active Participation Rule:
  All live players must make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. (In the event that something comes up that will prevent you from playing actively, please alert the mod so that a potential replacement can be found.) If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.

Game days will last seven days until there are fewer than seven players remaining. Then they will last as many days as there are players left.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

Could I perhaps pose a theory? If CM investigated both iSoc and MK and returned no result, we possibly have a rolestopper among us. If that is true, we know the rolestopper picked MK because of the no result CM got. And if that is true, Kvrest would not have seen MK visit Rafay (if MK is telling the truth).

 

I targeted nadarr n1, innocent.

N2 wp, guilty.

N3 rafay, innocent.

Now that you yourself have confirmed it, I have a problem with what you are claiming. 

 

I watched Rafay N3 and I didn't see anyone target them. CM claiming that he tracked MK is also suspicious as MK did not visit Rafay N3, contrary to what CM posted earlier.

 

vote MK

 

This is quite a big revelation. Unless somehow your results were skewed by a modifier on Rafay or MK, I dont see how MK can get out of this predicament. It's quite a big gamble for scum to claim cop when you generally expect one to be present and risk getting countered. We already have 3 votes on MK I believe which puts him at deadline lynch, so no need for anymore votes on him. 

 

So at this point we have a confirmed watcher in Kverst, unverified claim of tracker by CM and a doubtful tending to false claim of cop by MK.

 

Kverst is confirmed for obvious reasons.

CM's claim is unverified as he has not given us anything to work with. His RC was bit odd as he had no useful results to share expect no results on MK. Now it can be honest mistake as he might have mistaken no results for none visited action. But he also got no result on iSoc and we all know iSoc's PM fiasco, so he should have known better, Granted mod might have invalidated that action and CM thought thats why he got no result on iSoc. But for arguments sake and because we have no evidence otherwise, we believe him and we presume he was blocked. This means we have scum RB in play. iSoc might have been the reason for CM to get RBed N1 but dont think he would have jailed him on N3. Moreover WP was role cop so he might have known about CM's role. It could have been also a ploy to create a distance between him and MK but at this point even though its unverified, his claim looks genuine.

 

As for MK, the grave is getting bigger and bigger. A watcher's report is quite damning, unless skewed by modifiers. His guilty result for WP was quite convenient for him to sell his cop story. Also if we think about it, he might have been waiting for some clues to make sure he can take Rafay's name without the risk of getting caught but luck was not on his side.

 

I would like Rafay to weigh in here, as he can have an ascetic modifier which made it not possible for Kverst to see his visitor. I think its the only possible explanation which can save MK now.

Could I perhaps pose a theory? If CM investigated both iSoc and MK and returned no result, we possibly have a rolestopper among us. If that is true, we know the rolestopper picked MK because of the no result CM got. And if that is true, Kvrest would not have seen MK visit Rafay (if MK is telling the truth).

MK couldnt have been RBed as he himself said Rafay turned up innocent in the result. If he was RBed he would get "no results" or something similar.

And also CM getting no result means he was RBed, not his target which happened to be MK.

Could I perhaps pose a theory? If CM investigated both iSoc and MK and returned no result, we possibly have a rolestopper among us. If that is true, we know the rolestopper picked MK because of the no result CM got. And if that is true, Kvrest would not have seen MK visit Rafay (if MK is telling the truth).

A role stopper would not make MK invisible. Kverst would still see MK visit his target. A role stopper would rb anyone who targets MK, it wouldn't turn him into someone who can't be seen. Kverst targeted Rafay

Therefore MK is lying

Brewers makes sense, but to clarify for Lach, a rolestopper does not stop the target from doing something, it makes the target bulletproof for the night. Which could mean that even though Kvrest targeted rafay he still might not have been able to see MK.

 

I still think MK is scum, I just want to explore the possible options.

It doesn't just make them bulletproof. It makes it so no role can target them. So basically anyone who targets MK would become "roleblocked" aka Medved. So his results would be accurate. However, Kverst did not target MK. He targeted Rafay. Therefore he would still see MK if he did visit Rafay.

Brewers makes sense, but to clarify for Lach, a rolestopper does not stop the target from doing something, it makes the target bulletproof for the night. Which could mean that even though Kvrest targeted rafay he still might not have been able to see MK.

 

I still think MK is scum, I just want to explore the possible options.

Yeah I confused it with roleblocker. But brewers already clarified that even then it doesnt clear MK.

 

Only if Rafay has ascetic modifier which stopped Kverst from seeing MK visit him. But then again if that was so, MK wouldnt have got innocent result either. So MK, for practical purposes, is lying through his teeth. No wonder he was trying to wait to see if anyone spills anyone about Rafay so he can make a safe claim. Didnt turn out as he expected.

I'll have to go back, I must have missed an entire page or something. But we know for sure MK is scum.

did you actually get no visiters for Rafay?

If Kverst was Roleblocked, getting no result makes sense.  Watchers usually will get nobody visited him/her. However, this poses a new question, what result would somebody get if somebody investaged what Kverst did at night if he was roleblocked, nothing, or would it still show? 

looking at the mafia wiki, its pretty clear in every of the sister roles, no result means you were roleblocked. 

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tracker

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Follower

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Watcher

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Voyeur

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

 

 

CM's claim is unverified as he has not given us anything to work with. His RC was bit odd as he had no useful results to share expect no results on MK. Now it can be honest mistake as he might have mistaken no results for none visited action. But he also got no result on iSoc and we all know iSoc's PM fiasco, so he should have known better, Granted mod might have invalidated that action and CM thought thats why he got no result on iSoc.

 

It is true, i made the mistake of taking "No Result" as no action was used, though it can be a possibility according to mafiascum. I decided to take a risk to at least start a conversation for the day, which might end with a scum lynch hopefully

 

To be completely honest, i was unaware of any iSoc PM fiasco until today. I must have not been paying attention to the group PMs lol  

Can we all also agree that Robert is pretty much asking us to lynch him?

Btw, what message did you get, kverst?

And we have to consider the possibility of a redirector.

I'll have to go back, I must have missed an entire page or something. But we know for sure MK is scum.

QFT

Can we get an updated vote count?  

Kverst said he got "was not visited by anyone"

 

So he did not get "no result" meaning Rafay is not ascetic

Can we all also agree that Robert is pretty much asking us to lynch him?

Answering the question would make you look less like a horse with blinders on with anybody asking q's is instant scum. Isn't scummy but isn't good town play. 

 

Kverst said he got "was not visited by anyone"

 

So he did not get "no result" meaning Rafay is not ascetic

Brewers is at least trying to help out and answers the question Kverst could not. 

 

My earlier assumption was wrong, I'm not certain with Kverst reasoning of targeting Rafay, but I know for sure Kverst is probably town and did use a night action last night. 

 

Vote MK

You know for sure Kverst is town or he used night action last night? Your last statement is bit ambiguous.

 

Also please no more votes on MK. He is already up for lynch at deadline. We want the day to continue so don't accidentally hammer him.

My results on Rafay were "Did not see anything." My role lets me find out who targeted the player I am watching.

Did not see anything or was not visited by anyone. Those can mean entirely different things according to the mafia wiki. 

A Watcher that learns who a player was targeted by during the night is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. If a Watcher is somehow blocked from their action (by Roleblocker, Jailkeeper, Rolestopper, Ascetic, or Commuter), they should receive a "No Result" pm, rather than a "did not see anything" pm. A Watcher would not see a Ninja committing a kill, however, and would receive a "did not see anything" pm in that case.

 

 

The fact he didn't get a "no result" leads me to believe that he didn't get blocked.  All signs lead to MK being scum

Vote Count

 

Brewersalliance (0):

Colonel Medved (1): Lord MK

Kverst (0):

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (4): Colonel Medved, Brewersalliance, Kverst, Robert2424

Nadarr (0):

Rafay (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (1): Sister Midnight

Sister Midnight (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia

 

With 10 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline will be at 3:00pm CN Server time on Monday, January 14th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed:

I'll have to go back, I must have missed an entire page or something. But we know for sure MK is scum.

How do we know that for sure?

 

A Watcher that learns who a player was targeted by during the night is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. If a Watcher is somehow blocked from their action (by Roleblocker, Jailkeeper, Rolestopper, Ascetic, or Commuter), they should receive a "No Result" pm, rather than a "did not see anything" pm. A Watcher would not see a Ninja committing a kill, however, and would receive a "did not see anything" pm in that case.

 

 

 

The fact he didn't get a "no result" leads me to believe that he didn't get blocked.  All signs lead to MK being scum

Ah I missed that.

If MK is the 2nd scum then why did he push for a 2nd attempt on WP lynch?

 

Maybe he's an SK??

 

However I do agree that there is something odd about the information he's presenting and that will take away some townie points for sure. 

Vote Count

 

Brewersalliance (0):

Colonel Medved (1): Lord MK

Kverst (0):

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (4): Colonel Medved, Brewersalliance, Kverst, Robert2424

Nadarr (0):

Rafay (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (1): Sister Midnight

Sister Midnight (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia

 

With 10 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline will be at 3:00pm CN Server time on Monday, January 14th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed: iSocialism (2 posts on day 4)

Oh yeah, 2 more. Let's go.

 

I would rather be Hammered than waiting till the end of the day when the only thing that will happen in the remaining time is how you reason that I am scum, when everyone knows that.

So just lynch me already.

I don't think twice would allow a joker role....

Tw*

I don't think twice would allow a joker role....Tw*

I don’t understand what you just said.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Brewersalliance (0):

Colonel Medved (1): Lord MK

Kverst (0):

Lachiton (0):

Lord MK (4): Colonel Medved, Brewersalliance, Kverst, Robert2424

Nadarr (0):

Rafay (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (1): Sister Midnight

Sister Midnight (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia

 

With 10 players alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline will be at 3:00pm CN Server time on Monday, January 14th.

 

Currently in line to be mod-killed: iSocialism (2 posts on day 4)

Oh yeah, 2 more. Let's go.

 

I would rather be Hammered than waiting till the end of the day when the only thing that will happen in the remaining time is how you reason that I am scum, when everyone knows that.

So just lynch me already.

I really don’t care what you want. I don’t want the day to end early, ending early is anti-town. I want people who have not posted yet to share their thoughts.

 

Yehom? Isoc?