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[TW-08] IRON Mafia - MAFIA WINS

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Yeah I was not thrilled with this role either but thought it might be a good challenge.

 

 

It's a fun one to play, I enjoyed playing it in Brewers game, more then I enjoy playing scum.  As an SK it's a lot easier to scum hunt because you're also looking for them, and you're on your own so you don't have to worry about trying to buss your other scum partners or worry when to vote people or turn on your scum team/etc.  But it's also a very hard position to play and you did well.

 

Props all goes to Brewers on this one.  He was the mastermind of this win, and he did a great job.  Brewers knew he was likely to be followed last night so he used his Doctor ability on Lach to show that he visited him, while I RB'd Lach to prevent him killing possibly us.  Brewers had the game plan down for today and it worked exactly how he hoped.  I been kinda on and off with just real life things going on that I couldn't be as scheming as I usually do, and he brought it home for us.

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Mod Game Notes:

 

  • Town Roles: Non-Consecutive Night Tracker/Follower/Watcher/Voyeur, Rolestopper, Jailkeeper, Doctor, Cop, Vanilla Cop, Vanilla Townie
  • Mafia Roles: 3-Shot Role Cop, Roleblocker, Jack-of-All-Trades
  • Serial Killer: 1-Shot Bulletproof
  • I gave the town a handful of investigative roles for this game. I balanced the fact that the scum did not have a role that could avoid the investigative roles by limiting them with Non-Con modifiers.
  • The town also had two real protective roles (Doctor and Jailkeeper) as well as a Rolestopper to stop actions. This was done to help protect against several nights of multiple kills by the mafia and SK.
  • 3 of the SK's night kill attempts were thwarted by various combos. I think this actually managed to work out in Lachiton's favor because it wasn't until night 4 that multiple kills actually occurred so until then there wasn't a whole lot of talk about a SK.
  • To help offset some of the potential blocked night kills by the town, I gave the two scum factions a boost of their own:
    • The serial killer was given the 1-Shot Bulletproof modifier to protect against a mafia night kill.
    • The mafia was given a hidden 1-Shot Lynchproof modifier that would be applied to the first lynch attempted on a member of the mafia. This of course prevented Wolfpacks from being lynched. The mafia did not know about this modifier so they were just as confused as the town was when Wolfpacks survived the lynch attempt.
  • The town struck gold early when Kverst chose to watch SBG on night 1 and saw Wolfpacks visit him for the kill. If the mafia didn't have the hidden 1-shot lynchproof modifier this could have been a lot more devastating to the scum.
  • MK claiming cop was a blessing and a curse for the town. It helped get Wolfpacks lynched ultimately but it also hurt the town in the long run when SM tried to make her case against Brewers. Town lying to town is not a great practice. "Lynch All Liars" exists as a philosophy for a reason.
  • It was interesting to watch the Brewers vs Sister Midnight debate take shape. As soon as SM got her third result (on Colonel Medved), I knew that she was going to role claim and share her findings related to Brewers, CM, and Robert. I am really surprised that no where in that discussion was the possibility of a Framer or Tailor ever mentioned. I assumed that Brewers was dead because that topic wasn't ever brought up.
  • The last day should serve as a warning to everyone and it's something that I constantly talk about towards the end of games. The town should NOT rush their vote, ever. A rushed vote will benefit the mafia almost every time.

Mafia chat: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/Rhj3zgf6c7T

I am really surprised that no where in that discussion was the possibility of a Framer or Tailor ever mentioned. I assumed that Brewers was dead because that topic wasn't ever brought up.

 

 

I thought about it, to be honest but when SM had the slip up in her RC and then with the whole MK thing, I felt it would be a lot more effective to try to paint her as scum who made some mistakes.  To me it felt like if I brought up those possibilities, I would make my case weaker by suggesting SM was telling the truth about her role

 

 

2 of the SK's night kill attempts were thwarted by various combos. I think this actually managed to work out in Lachiton's favor because it wasn't until night 4 that multiple kills actually occurred so until then there wasn't a whole lot of talk about a SK.

 

 

what/who were the blocked kills and how were they stopped?

 

and was my vig kill used up cause of the Dr or was I jailed?

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what/who were the blocked kills and how were they stopped?

 

and was my vig kill used up cause of the Dr or was I jailed?

 

  • Lachiton targeted Kverst on night 2 and was thwarted by a role combo.
  • Lachiton again tried to target Kverst on night 3 and was jailed that night by iSoc.
  • Lachiton was role blocked on night 5 by Rhizo preventing him from killing Brewers.
  • Brewers' JOAT vig kill attempt on Kverst on night 3 was prevented by the Doctor.

So close yet no cigar!!

 

Mafia team was loaded. Town too had lots of protective, investigative roles. 3 kills of mine got blocked, someway or the other. If only my last kill had gone through lol.

 

The town played like shit.

 

I blame CM, SM and Nadarr.

And here I was just about to say something nice about you, goat face.

 

if you are gonna blame anyone, blame either me for lying my ass off, or MK for claiming cop cause thats really the main reason i lived tbh

 

And here I was just about to say something nice about you, goat face.

You can say that or not but any compliment about me is a fact. #GOAT.

Since you are the #GOAT, I think our loss is mostly on you. Why didn’t you try to convince Medved to believe me? #NotGreat

 

 

And here I was just about to say something nice about you, goat face.

You can say that or not but any compliment about me is a fact. #GOAT.

Since you are the #GOAT, I think our loss is mostly on you. Why didn’t you try to convince Medved to believe me? #NotGreat

 

 

Agreed! But i mostly place the blame on MK 

I am sorry if I played like shit. I started getting really sick right after this game started. :(

Ignore Rafay. Some people just can’t take ownership for their failures and need to point at other people. This is especially egregious when they hassle newbies.

 

 

 

 

And here I was just about to say something nice about you, goat face.

You can say that or not but any compliment about me is a fact. #GOAT.
Since you are the #GOAT, I think our loss is mostly on you. Why didn’t you try to convince Medved to believe me? #NotGreat

Agreed! But i mostly place the blame on MK

I place the blame squarely on you.

I was right, all along.

 

Was any of my results wrong?

No, so i was right.

You were being obsessed.

 

 

 

 

And here I was just about to say something nice about you, goat face.

You can say that or not but any compliment about me is a fact. #GOAT.
Since you are the #GOAT, I think our loss is mostly on you. Why didn’t you try to convince Medved to believe me? #NotGreat

Agreed! But i mostly place the blame on MK

I place the blame squarely on you.

I was right, all along.

 

Was any of my results wrong?

No, so i was right.

You were being obsessed.

 

 

That would be incorrect. 

 

You lied about your role, you got caught in the lie, you were lynched because of the lie. Your death squarely falls on you, and because of you lying we wasted a day and then were put into a lylo situation. None of your "results" were right because you were a vanilla town and had no results. We all knew WP was scum after D2, if that is a result then everyone must have been a cop lol

It is really hard not to rip you a new orifice, MK. I don’t think it is worth the trouble to do so because you can not tolerate any criticism without acting out. This is why I do not want to play with you, you are so narcissistic that you are unable to act for the greater good of your team. Idk why you think you did anything to help town by lying. It is the fact that you have no insight into what you have done that makes it impossible to interact with you in mafia.

It is really hard not to rip you a new orifice, MK. I don’t think it is worth the trouble to do so because you can not tolerate any criticism without acting out. This is why I do not want to play with you, you are so narcissistic that you are unable to act for the greater good of your team. Idk why you think you did anything to help town by lying. It is the fact that you have no insight into what you have done that makes it impossible to interact with you in mafia.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/HtVblw6.jpg

Shit! I came back to delete that post, but Rhiz quoted it, so that is a wonderful example of why impuslivity should be checked.  I don't want to call MK names or pick on him.  :(

 

MK,  you would not have been lynched if you had not lied. Town might have won.  You made sure town would lose by lying that way. 

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