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[BA-02] A Clash of Kings Mafia- TOWN, JESTER AND SURVIVOR WINS


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We did have 3 kills N1, and if Isocialism was killed and came back as SK he likely would of gotten the ability to kill N1 after his Lynch. But Brewers also mentioned the flavor was just flavor, and not a hint of what happened so I'm not sure. Usually I read into the flavor but the Mod has seemingly tried to say to not look into it.

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I personally think Isoc had his one go and now is just an ordinary VT and is just playing up his role, either for fun or just because he was lynched in the first place.

LS I was figuring the SK in the five, there was probably a odd number of scum 3 to 2 ratio and add the SK, if there is a SK then he must of saved his kill.

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I personally think Isoc had his one go and now is just an ordinary VT and is just playing up his role, either for fun or just because he was lynched in the first place.

LS I was figuring the SK in the five, there was probably a odd number of scum 3 to 2 ratio and add the SK, if there is a SK then he must of saved his kill.

 

If that was the case, then he should have just said it. But he is wanting us to just be ok with him not saying anything. Honestly i don't trust the silence, and i don't see why everyone doesn't seem bothered from it.


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If we go by game mechanic-wise, it would be too anti-town for iSoc to return to a non-town faction after he was killed during N1, especially seeing that there are more likely than not more scum factions. Given that plus the fact that Brewers has point out multiple times not to overthink things from a flavor point of view, I'm leaning more towards iSoc being town. 


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My theory, last GoT game a suggested that two scum factions wouldn't be crazy since its a GoT theme game. With that I believe the same for this game. As well as a SK.

As for me, I think one scum team wanted to take out another scum member, and thought I was resurrected as scum

I was resurrected, IDK how but it sounds like mod flavor. On top of that my role went from paranoid to one shot BP. I think scum went after me. Which was the only good left of my role.

My gut feeling is telling me that someone who wants me lynched for a second time. Is someone who isn't looking for scum but need the distraction of looking like they're looking for scum. So much has been spent on me, and how this game is working in the background, but little on scum hunting. Yes, I know I'm not either, but it's a general call out.

  

We still have an issue we need answers on. Since nobody is doing anything, I guess its up to me to cause activity of some sort. with so many players, there should be so many more posts. If I was the mod, I'd start taking time away for such poor activity.    Vote Isoc   I don't think we have a warm body movie zombie here, so I have to lean that zombies are dangerous. I hate to lynch somebody twice, but brewers has brought this upon this game. Course we ended up doing it before here and it paid off. 2/2?

 
 
I agree with Robert on this stance, i've been thinking of it since yesterday. It worries me that he still hasn't disclosed any information about his resurrection, and having nothing to go off of the only thing I can assume is that he is no longer town.
 
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My theory, last GoT game a suggested that two scum factions wouldn't be crazy since its a GoT theme game. With that I believe the same for this game. As well as a SK.

As for me, I think one scum team wanted to take out another scum member, and thought I was resurrected as scum

I was resurrected, IDK how but it sounds like mod flavor. On top of that my role went from paranoid to one shot BP. I think scum went after me. Which was the only good left of my role.

My gut feeling is telling me that someone who wants me lynched for a second time. Is someone who isn't looking for scum but need the distraction of looking like they're looking for scum. So much has been spent on me, and how this game is working in the background, but little on scum hunting. Yes, I know I'm not either, but it's a general call out.

  

We still have an issue we need answers on. Since nobody is doing anything, I guess its up to me to cause activity of some sort. with so many players, there should be so many more posts. If I was the mod, I'd start taking time away for such poor activity.    Vote Isoc   I don't think we have a warm body movie zombie here, so I have to lean that zombies are dangerous. I hate to lynch somebody twice, but brewers has brought this upon this game. Course we ended up doing it before here and it paid off. 2/2?

 
 
I agree with Robert on this stance, i've been thinking of it since yesterday. It worries me that he still hasn't disclosed any information about his resurrection, and having nothing to go off of the only thing I can assume is that he is no longer town.
 
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My theory, last GoT game a suggested that two scum factions wouldn't be crazy since its a GoT theme game. With that I believe the same for this game. As well as a SK.

As for me, I think one scum team wanted to take out another scum member, and thought I was resurrected as scum

I was resurrected, IDK how but it sounds like mod flavor. On top of that my role went from paranoid to one shot BP. I think scum went after me. Which was the only good left of my role.

My gut feeling is telling me that someone who wants me lynched for a second time. Is someone who isn't looking for scum but need the distraction of looking like they're looking for scum. So much has been spent on me, and how this game is working in the background, but little on scum hunting. Yes, I know I'm not either, but it's a general call out.

  

 

We still have an issue we need answers on. Since nobody is doing anything, I guess its up to me to cause activity of some sort. with so many players, there should be so many more posts. If I was the mod, I'd start taking time away for such poor activity.    Vote Isoc   I don't think we have a warm body movie zombie here, so I have to lean that zombies are dangerous. I hate to lynch somebody twice, but brewers has brought this upon this game. Course we ended up doing it before here and it paid off. 2/2?

 
 
I agree with Robert on this stance, i've been thinking of it since yesterday. It worries me that he still hasn't disclosed any information about his resurrection, and having nothing to go off of the only thing I can assume is that he is no longer town.
 
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If we go by game mechanic-wise, it would be too anti-town for iSoc to return to a non-town faction after he was killed during N1, especially seeing that there are more likely than not more scum factions. Given that plus the fact that Brewers has point out multiple times not to overthink things from a flavor point of view, I'm leaning more towards iSoc being town. 

I have to say this is Niave. I don't trust Brewers now. He's the mod who puts in Jesters. Your really going to trust brewers after MK flipping Jester?


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SM what else would you like to know about me only knowing that I was resurrected. I don't know how, and that my role changed. What I'm missing? What information that I don't have would you like me to tell.
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SM what else would you like to know about me only knowing that I was resurrected. I don't know how, and that my role changed. What I'm missing? What information that I don't have would you like me to tell.


The meaning of life? What did you experience in the great beyond? I was just hoping there was more to share. I was also trying to get a measure of your state of mind.

I don’t think iSoc is scum. I do think our moderator might be scum, though.

Out of everyone still alive I feel that TW has been acting the most town-like. So there you go, I think TW is town, I doubt to iSoc is scum. I understand and sympathize with Robert’s anger at Brewer, but I am not inclined to attempt a second lynch on iSoc until we have more evidence against him, I think it is unfortunate that Brewer's state of mind has become a focal point in this game, but since that has become a major issue here, I don’t think Brewers would screw us over by resurrecting town into scum after playing a jester.

So who to vote for? I got nothing, so I’m not going to take a shot in the dark and vote to lynch anyone when I feel so blind.

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I have to say this is Niave. I don't trust Brewers now. He's the mod who puts in Jesters. Your really going to trust brewers after MK flipping Jester?

Someone is salty 


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No matter how much we can say we dislike the mod, it's his game. If we could get some information so we can move forward, that would be helpful.


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No matter how much we can say we dislike the mod, it's his game. If we could get some information so we can move forward, that would be helpful.


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Either way I would say we have 4 scum left

As previously stated, I think at least 1 scum voted for MK.

Taken together, this means that up to 3 scum did not vote for MK.

I'm sort of surprised that more people didn't vote for MK; it was the townie thing to do.
The scum knew that it was the townie thing to do so they should have done it too.

However, the scum also want to lay low and not be accountable for lynching a townie so my suspicion remains on those that were not on the MK wagon.



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I have to say this is Niave. I don't trust Brewers now. He's the mod who puts in Jesters. Your really going to trust brewers after MK flipping Jester?

 

Maybe it's just because i haven't played a ton of IRON Mafia yet, but Jesters are pretty common of a role. I use to play Town of Salem before this, where just about every game has Jesters lol

 

It sucks for town, but it does add spice to the game. It makes you second guess if they are genuinely scummy or just wanting to get lynched for a win. 

 

I'm sort of surprised that more people didn't vote for MK; it was the townie thing to do. The scum knew that it was the townie thing to do so they should have done it too. However, the scum also want to lay low and not be accountable for lynching a townie so my suspicion remains on those that were not on the MK wagon.

 

So in other words, the MK wagon is useless. I for one know i am town, and i didn't vote for MK. My reasons have already been stated, and i'm sure everyone has a reason to why they did/didn't vote. Either way, MK was town and was lynched.

 

You could say scum were on the wagon to get an easy lynch, or town was on the wagon because MK was acting scummy. Then you could also say that town didn't vote MK because he was acting too scummy like he was trying to get lynched, or scum are hiding in the no votes to blend in with town or not seem to obvious. 


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I have to say this is Niave. I don't trust Brewers now. He's the mod who puts in Jesters. Your really going to trust brewers after MK flipping Jester?

Someone is salty 

 

Not really salty, its Policy. 

 

@CM, Jesters are more Bastard roles, not used unless to piss off the masses. 

 

No matter how much we can say we dislike the mod, it's his game. If we could get some information so we can move forward, that would be helpful.

I don't dislike the mod, I'm saying for this game he can't be entirely trusted. 


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You could say scum were on the wagon to get an easy lynch, or town was on the wagon because MK was acting scummy. Then you could also say that town didn't vote MK because he was acting too scummy like he was trying to get lynched, or scum are hiding in the no votes to blend in with town or not seem to obvious.

 

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iSoc mentioned earlier that he thinks he could've been targeted last night which could help explain there only being one kill last night. While that is certainly possible if iSoc became 1-shot BP as he claims, I'm inclined to think that he wouldn't have been a scum target at night. All anyone knew about him before that night was that he was previously a PGO. Therefore if he would've been targeted by a scum faction it would have also killed the person targeting him (assuming he was resurrected as the same role). No one had any reason to believe that he came back as anything other than his mod-revealed role before he mentioned that he became BP so I doubt a scum faction would have targeted him since it wouldn't have been worth it for them to target him and lose a person for doing so.

 

Because of this I don't think that iSoc was a scum target at night. I think it's more likely that at least one of the killing factions has a modifier or somehow two kills were prevented at night. This would mean that if the town has a protective/preventative role of some kind (Doctor, Jailkeeper, maybe roleblocker, or rolestopper) that you most likely prevented at least one of the kills. Hopefully this means that at least that person or persons has some information about who was targeted last night. It does not completely exonerate that targeted person of course since we are likely dealing with multiple scum factions who will also want to kill each other off, but it does increase the odds that that protected person/persons is town.

 

Honestly at this point I don't know what to do. I believe that iSoc currently has the only two votes cast against him today. If something doesn't change quickly he might be the only option today even though I don't know if it's actually our best option.

 

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.  Deadline is Monday, Jan 22th at 12:00 PM CN time.

Brewers - Can you please give us an updated post count and clarify the deadline? Is the deadline today (Monday) at 12:00pm or tomorrow (Tuesday the 22nd) at 12:00pm?


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