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[The Warrior]

Thank you. That means that we have 26 hours to figure something out.

 

Does anyone have any other thoughts to share at this point about things that have happened or where we should go from here?

[Yehom]

Vote: Robert

 

You're way too busy playing against the game then playing the actual game with the actual players. Could be a tactic to seem like you're actively doing something, but you're not in fact. All that bitching and moaning has to be good for something, so I'm guessing you're stalling for something, because I'm not seeing some actual contribution

[Rhizoctonia]

I don't have anything to share, but agree we're to the point decisions need to be made.  Was hoping someone may have some information on direction.  Seems we're likely shooting in the dark again

[Nadarr]

Unfortunately this game is extra interesting with the possible multiple scum factions making it much harder to pin any information down. Honestly iSoc has given no hint of being anything other than what he originally was. I this point I think we need to stop looking into the same people unless new information arises. It is just a waste of our time and gives scum the ability to slowly pick us off one by one.

[KevinH]

As previously posted, my FoS based on not voting for MK:

Colonel Medved, LordSunday, Robert2424, Wolfpacks, Rhizoctonia

 

One of these already has a vote so I will add to it.

Vote Robert2424

which then gives

Unofficial Vote Count

Robert2424 (2): Yehom, KevinH

iSocialism (1): Robert2424, 

Colonel Medved (0) 

Jazzy (0)

KevinH (0)

Kvrest (0)

LordSunday (0)

Nadarr (0) 

Rhizoctonia (0)

Sister Midnight (0)

The Warrior (0) 

Wolfpacks (0)

Yehom (0)

 

Not Voting : iSocialism, Jazzy, Kvrest,  LordSunday, Nadarr,  Rhizoctonia, Sister Midnight, The Warrior,  Wolfpacks, Colonel Medved,

 

 
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.  Deadline is Tuesday, Jan 22th at 12:00 PM CN time.

[Kverst]

 

 

I have to say this is Niave. I don't trust Brewers now. He's the mod who puts in Jesters. Your really going to trust brewers after MK flipping Jester?

Someone is salty 

 

Not really salty, its Policy. 

 

@CM, Jesters are more Bastard roles, not used unless to piss off the masses. 

 

No matter how much we can say we dislike the mod, it's his game. If we could get some information so we can move forward, that would be helpful.

I don't dislike the mod, I'm saying for this game he can't be entirely trusted. 

 

I said that we should move on and stop talking about the jester, but Robert still wanted to keep it going.

 

 

vote robert

[Sister Midnight]

Sorry Robert, but you look like the best candidate to me. Honestly, I have no idea if you are scum, but you are being the least constructive right now. I’m open to changing my vote.


VOTE ROBERT

[Robert2424]

The last min scum push. 

I'm at least trying to make conversation, while everyone sits back and dose nothing. 

[Wolfpacks]

Sorry for me KevinH is pushing that if you didn't vote for MK you ain't town too much, MK was already lynched it didn't matter who else voted for him, the game still continues, to me it better to try and flush out other scum members then add a vote to someone who is basically lynched, now thats the townie thing to do.

VOTE KevinH

[LordSunday]

So Robert has 2 votes after Kevin placed his, and suddenly two people creep out of the woodwork and place votes to put him in a lynch position.

 

iSocialism (5) The Warrior, Robert2424, Lachiton, Kverst, LordMK

 

Lord MK (6) KevinH, Jazzy, Nadarr, Kverst, iSocalism, The Warrior

 

I said that we should move on and stop talking about the jester, but Robert still wanted to keep it going.

vote robert

 

I'm noticing a pattern

 

Vote: Kverst

[Sister Midnight]

Sorry for me KevinH is pushing that if you didn't vote for MK you ain't town too much, MK was already lynched it didn't matter who else voted for him, the game still continues, to me it better to try and flush out other scum members then add a vote to someone who is basically lynched, now thats the townie thing to do.

VOTE KevinH

This got me thinking. Some things Kev said rubbed me the wrong way:

Either way I would say we have 4 scum left

As previously stated, I think at least 1 scum voted for MK.

Taken together, this means that up to 3 scum did not vote for MK.

What significance does this have to yo, exactly? Please elaborate?

I'm sort of surprised that more people didn't vote for MK; it was the townie thing to do.
The scum knew that it was the townie thing to do so they should have done it too.

However, the scum also want to lay low and not be accountable for lynching a townie so my suspicion remains on those that were not on the MK wagon.

I, for one, did not think MK was scum and raised the possibility of him being a Jester. I know others were considering this seriously after I brought it up. I was correct in guessing he was a Jester. Does that imply I’m anti-town for not voting for him? I did not believe him to be scum and I was right.

As far as I’m concerned, you are one of the Mafia kings, Kevin. I’ve only played Mafia on the IRON boards and I don’t know all the caveats that people like you seem to know. but I’m pretty sure not trying to lynch a townie is the right way to play a townie.

[Sister Midnight]

The last min scum push. 
I'm at least trying to make conversation, while everyone sits back and dose nothing. 

I wrote the following while you were posting, and when I previewed my post for editing purposes, I saw your comments so I finished my thoughts about Kev and posted them. Regarding Robert I said:

“I’m rethinking my recent vote for Robert. He’s distressed by our Moderator’s actions and being pretty vocal about it, that doesn’t make him scum. I don’t like lynching someone just for the sake of having a lynch in. There is a good chance I will be unvoting. That will probably put a target on my back, but...”

Could someone please explain why it is more desirable to risk lynching a townie on the second or third night than on N1?

[Robert2424]

Kevin would probally thinks thats a complament. Mafia King. lol. 

[Sister Midnight]

Kevin would probally thinks thats a complament. Mafia King. lol. 

I meant it as such.

[Rhizoctonia]

So Robert has 2 votes after Kevin placed his, and suddenly two people creep out of the woodwork and place votes to put him in a lynch position.

iSocialism (5) The Warrior, Robert2424, Lachiton, Kverst, LordMK

Lord MK (6) KevinH, Jazzy, Nadarr, Kverst, iSocalism, The Warrior

I said that we should move on and stop talking about the jester, but Robert still wanted to keep it going.
vote robert

I'm noticing a pattern

Vote: Kverst

Agree

Vote Kverst

[Kverst]

Ok, here's my line of thinking. 

 

No one is coming forward with anything. 

 

My vote on Robert isn't "out of the woodworks"(-LordSunday) , I gave a legitimate reason for voting Robert. 

 

I said that we should stop talking about Brewers' jester issue. Robert immediately went right back to it. To me, that is him keeping our conversation on a topic that won't get the town anywhere. I bring this up because I don't want it to seem like I am just sheeping or randomly hopping on wagons for no reason.

No matter how much we can say we dislike the mod, it's his game. If we could get some information so we can move forward, that would be helpful.

 

 

 

Not really salty, its Policy. 

 

I have to say this is Niave. I don't trust Brewers now. He's the mod who puts in Jesters. Your really going to trust brewers after MK flipping Jester?

Someone is salty 

 

 

@CM, Jesters are more Bastard roles, not used unless to piss off the masses. 

 

No matter how much we can say we dislike the mod, it's his game. If we could get some information so we can move forward, that would be helpful.

I don't dislike the mod, I'm saying for this game he can't be entirely trusted. 

 

 

Other people agreed with me in that Robert was leading the discussion away from productivity. Yehom posted before me, and SM hopped on after I posted. My vote wasn't a hammer vote, nor was it definitively going to lead to a lynch.

 

Vote: Robert

 

You're way too busy playing against the game then playing the actual game with the actual players. Could be a tactic to seem like you're actively doing something, but you're not in fact. All that bitching and moaning has to be good for something, so I'm guessing you're stalling for something, because I'm not seeing some actual contribution

 

Sorry Robert, but you look like the best candidate to me. Honestly, I have no idea if you are scum, but you are being the least constructive right now. I’m open to changing my vote.


VOTE ROBERT

@LordSunday I don't know what pattern you're referring to. If it's the timing of my posts, I cannot help what time and who posts before I am able to get on and post. Also, I wasn't hopping onto any wagons that were undoubtedly going to result in a lynch (iSoc was supposed to go to trial by combat, and I made it clear that I didn't like what MK did) or that I would have hammered through. 

Then are you saying I shouldn't use my vote?

 

The deadline is approaching and we still haven't done anything. 

[Robert2424]

it is out of the woodworks. You decided to jump on an active player during the last day of a game. The wagon literally formed within this page. With Kevin planting seeds before hand with me the only person who commented and laughed at those not on the MK lynch wagon. Maybe we should talk more who was on the MK lynch wagon. it dosen't help the wagon on me is Inherently scummy. 

 

 

Lord MK (6) KevinH, Jazzy, Nadarr, Kverst, iSocalism, The Warrior

 

iSocialism (5) The Warrior, Robert2424, Lachiton, Kverst, Lord

 

Lord MK (6) KevinH, Jazzy, Nadarr, Kverst, iSocalism, The Warrior

Seems to be a pattern and a bit of Sheeping from Kverst here. Although I would say I find Kevin a bit more scummy, people are content on Kverst today. 

 

I'm alright with either or, but not until everybody chimes in. 

 

My Vote will put him at 3. Unless Wolfpacks changes his vote. TW could swoop in as I'd like to hear his thougts on this last min push. Jazzy's thoughts would be welcome, along with Lach and CM. And Nadarr. 

 

Vote Kverst

 

He isn't in trouble yet, but should reevaluate what he's done thus far. 

[Kverst]

He isn't in trouble yet, but should reevaluate what he's done thus far.

 

Yeah, 3 votes...not in trouble. If voting for someone because I think they are suspicious is "sheeping" (and incriminating) just because others also think they are suspicious, how does anything get done? I gave a legitimate reason for my vote. It was not because I followed others without thinking for myself. 

[Wolfpacks]

it is out of the woodworks. You decided to jump on an active player during the last day of a game. The wagon literally formed within this page. With Kevin planting seeds before hand with me the only person who commented and laughed at those not on the MK lynch wagon. Maybe we should talk more who was on the MK lynch wagon. it dosen't help the wagon on me is Inherently scummy.

Lord MK (6) KevinH, Jazzy, Nadarr, Kverst, iSocalism, The Warrior

iSocialism (5) The Warrior, Robert2424, Lachiton, Kverst, Lord

Lord MK (6) KevinH, Jazzy, Nadarr, Kverst, iSocalism, The Warrior

Seems to be a pattern and a bit of Sheeping from Kverst here. Although I would say I find Kevin a bit more scummy, people are content on Kverst today.

I'm alright with either or, but not until everybody chimes in.

My Vote will put him at 3. Unless Wolfpacks changes his vote. TW could swoop in as I'd like to hear his thougts on this last min push. Jazzy's thoughts would be welcome, along with Lach and CM. And Nadarr.

Vote Kverst

He isn't in trouble yet, but should reevaluate what he's done thus far.

I'd like to hear TWs thoughts on this before I choose which way to go, I still think KevinH is scum, but I personally dont think Robert is scum.

[Yehom]

Unvote

Kverst was absolutely ready to jump on that wagon. Seeing how his previous votes went I can only agree that his voting pattern is horrible at least and scummy at best. The fact that SM was really soon to follow only again confirms my believe that she isn’t town. Though for me Robert isn’t completely out of scum contention, Kverst is absolutely being more scummy and needs to feel the consequence of that.

Vote Kverst