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[Wolfpacks]

Bitches lol

[LordSunday]

@Robert seeing as you've went so far already could you provide which dragon you are? 

 

Without anyone contesting Robert on his claim I would tend to believe him, and agree with the idea that would make him a VT. However...

 

The only thing I will note is brewer's flavor text did just state "No, the dragons are all dead." Not sure how deep we want to read into the flavor here but it is worth noting

[Robert2424]

Wolfpacks likely blocked a kill last night, and likely another night as well. Did he post a read list at all? He may of blocked the same person twice.

[LordSunday]

Wolfpacks likely blocked a kill last night, and likely another night as well. Did he post a read list at all? He may of blocked the same person twice.

 

I think the problem with that is he may not have blocked and instead saved... Jailkeeper acts as a Doctor and Roleblocker at the same time, so a lack of kill could mean either they were scum or a targeted townie. Unfortunately who he visited is purely a guessing game, though it's interesting to note he was the only one on Kevin's wagon yesterday. He may have jailed Kevin N2, but again that's all guessing and speculation

[Robert2424]

People are unlikely to Target the same person. However for this point on all kills are likely to go through. Luckily 2 scum are down though Kevin was a bit obvious

[LordSunday]

@Robert seeing as you've went so far already could you provide which dragon you are?

 

Still waiting on this

[Robert2424]

How would that help town if I were to do so? Maybe I'm waiting to see if anybody else's claims a dragon.

[Rhizoctonia]

I wouldn't dive too much into the flavor it seems.  2 Nights ago it seemed like we had a scum team of Theon and his sister, and now we know the other faction is essos, not them.  Though we likely still have a SK as well given the fact we had 3 kills at night N1, and I doubt a town Vig would use it N1, or a scum team would be allowed to use a possible Vig kill that early.  

[Colonel Medved]

The only thing I will note is brewer's flavor text did just state "No, the dragons are all dead." Not sure how deep we want to read into the flavor here but it is worth noting

 

 

It has been a while since i watched the show, and even then i only watched two seasons. But i believe that everyone thought the dragons to be dead from the show, until the eggs hatched with Daenerys Targaryen.

 

How would that help town if I were to do so? Maybe I'm waiting to see if anybody else's claims a dragon.

 

I'm not sure how not revealing your name would be helpful for town. Your hesitation is suspicious to me

[Sister Midnight]

How would that help town if I were to do so? Maybe I'm waiting to see if anybody else's claims a dragon.

Generally people give names when they role claim. It is not the norm to not do so, and abnormal behaviors are often perceived as scummy.

[Robert2424]

I'm not sure how not revealing your name would be helpful for town. Your hesitation is suspicious to me

 I shouldn't have to name claim, me claiming would help scum more then anybody. I shouldn't have to say if scum tried to fake claim a dragon name and that dragon name happened to be mine, would seal scums fate. 

 

 

How would that help town if I were to do so? Maybe I'm waiting to see if anybody else's claims a dragon.

Generally people give names when they role claim. It is not the norm to not do so, and abnormal behaviors are often perceived as scummy.

 

Yes but then why push so hard for me to Role Claim? I'm not going to fully Role claim as I don't feel its in the towns best interest. Pushing on me last game likely got me killed and not only me suspecting you, but you were lynched after I was NK'd. There is a term called Role digging.

I wouldn't dive too much into the flavor it seems.  2 Nights ago it seemed like we had a scum team of Theon and his sister, and now we know the other faction is essos, not them.  Though we likely still have a SK as well given the fact we had 3 kills at night N1, and I doubt a town Vig would use it N1, or a scum team would be allowed to use a possible Vig kill that early.  

scum teams flavor yes has been figured out. SK would make sense, a vig forced to choose every night would also fit the flavor. 

[Colonel Medved]

I shouldn't have to name claim, me claiming would help scum more then anybody. I shouldn't have to say if scum tried to fake claim a dragon name and that dragon name happened to be mine, would seal scums fate. 

 

But anyone can say they are role someone else claims. I'm not sure how that would exactly seal their fate 

[Robert2424]

In such a even, one of use would be lynched. If we Lynch wrong the other is either dead during the next night or lynched fallowing day.

Let's say the most likely scenario happens, someone claims the 3rd dragon, not mine, and no counter claim, that person is likely town.

Let's say an unlikely but interesting scenario, same as the last but somebody claimed 3rd dragon, and there's a counter claim. Meaning one would be lying. From there or any of the sinarios, we have something to work with. I'd rather have something rather then nothing unless someone comes up with a better plan, I think it's a good idea.

On that note dose anybody want to claim being a dragon other then me?

[Robert2424]

Let me ask you this cm, let's say somebody claims the dragon I am. I fully claim at this point and call him a lyier, vote him. After that he/she would fully role claim, vote me. At this point it's a 50/50 shot lynching scum. Would you rather have a 50/50 shot or not .With whatever the town dose, we will find 1 scum even if we mislynch in the other person. Will the other scum faction, sk or vig target him, guess they would consider it. Imagine they would die during the next night as they would be outted. They are a threat to everyone not in there faction. The only chance this works is if I don't name claim. Otherwise it's moot.

Most probable is we get 2 likely townies and I would consider that person likely town.

[LordSunday]

I kind of get what Robert is saying

 

 

On that note dose anybody want to claim being a dragon other then me?

 

Also pretty sure there is little benefit to this. I agreed earlier with TW's thought that if one dragon was a VT it makes sense the other two would be as well. Having those players identified simply allows scum to know who likely doesn't have PRs, while the town's only benefit is two players who have some townie points.

[Robert2424]

I kind of get what Robert is saying
 
 

On that note dose anybody want to claim being a dragon other then me?

 
Also pretty sure there is little benefit to this. I agreed earlier with TW's thought that if one dragon was a VT it makes sense the other two would be as well. Having those players identified simply allows scum to know who likely doesn't have PRs, while the town's only benefit is two players who have some townie points.

maybe maybe not.

[Colonel Medved]

Let me ask you this cm, let's say somebody claims the dragon I am. I fully claim at this point and call him a lyier, vote him. After that he/she would fully role claim, vote me. At this point it's a 50/50 shot lynching scum. Would you rather have a 50/50 shot or not .With whatever the town dose, we will find 1 scum even if we mislynch in the other person. Will the other scum faction, sk or vig target him, guess they would consider it. Imagine they would die during the next night as they would be outted. They are a threat to everyone not in there faction. The only chance this works is if I don't name claim. Otherwise it's moot.

Most probable is we get 2 likely townies and I would consider that person likely town.

 

I see what you're getting at, but at this point i don't think it's beneficial. Maybe if they didn't know you are going to RC, but now they know what will happen and most likely won't even do it to begin with to prevent that from happening.

[Robert2424]

Hince why I didn't want to talk about it

[Colonel Medved]

Hince why I didn't want to talk about it

 

I mean, you openly claimed it when LS asked you about the name originally. It wasn't like we made you say it.

 

Now that it is already in the open, would you like to share your name?

[Robert2424]

Not really. I'd rather do it all at once