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[Sister Midnight]

Well let's make this a Mexican standoff, or the PC wording, an undecided mixing of they humans pointing assault fingers at each others.

I'm a survivor, I play to win. I win by staying alive with a town or mafia win. I'm pretty sure there might be a SK. I won't win if the SK and I or alive tomorrow.

We have three deaths last night.
Only two mafia members have been killed. Meaning that if there are two scum factions. One has been eliminated, and two members of the other are left. If there's one faction, still the likelihood that two are left.

Rhiz probably killed someone, SK killed someone, and the other mafia probably killed someone. Sounds like SM and jazzy are the buddies, and Nadar is likely the SK. However, SM is definitely scummy IMO, SK or scum

Its either SM and jazzy, or jazzy and Nadarr.

Jazzy I'm going to place my vote along with you.

Just realized what you are saying here. Everyone thinks you’re a SK, but me. I promise you I am what I say I am. Look at the facts, look at the role claims. If there is a SK they, or scum will take you out tonight and it will be a draw between scum and the SK. Do not let others decide your destiny. Speak up! Please!

[Nadarr]

I love GoT and literally just finished rewatching all 7 seasons. It doesn't make any sense why the third dragon would be scum. Even if he was named after Danny's shit brother she still loved Viserion immensely.

She did no5 love him immensely, she loved him, but feared him. He physically hurt her, and emotionally abused her, and sold her to Khal Drogo in exchange for Drogo funding his invasion on Westeros. She did not try to stop Drogo from killing Viserion because she saw him for the villain he was. She loved him because he was her only living family and had raised her, but she knew his faults and feared him.

Viserys Targaryen is the second born son of Aerys II Targaryen.[6] Thirteen years before the events of the series, he and his sister Daenerys fled Westeros to escape death at the hands of rebel Robert Baratheon.[7] Viserys is an arrogant, cruel and ambitious man given to violent mood swings. In A Game of Thrones, he sells his sister as a wife to the Dothraki Khal Drogo, as a means to secure the allegiance of Drogo's army toward his goal of reclaiming the throne.[7] Frustrated with Drogo, Viserys demands a crown and threatens Daenerys and her unborn child; Drogo kills him by pouring a pot of molten gold over his head.

Daenerys later names one of her dragons Viserion, after Viserys. She explains that in spite of everything, he was still her brother, and that his draconic namesake will help do what he could not. She also tries to remember him as the good person he was before the stresses of their exile made him violent and bitter, and acknowledges that he at least kept her alive and safe through her childhood.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viserys_Targaryen

Viserys Targaryen is the second born son of Aerys II Targaryen.[6] Thirteen years before the events of the series, he and his sister Daenerys fled Westeros to escape death at the hands of rebel Robert Baratheon.[7] Viserys is an arrogant, cruel and ambitious man given to violent mood swings. In A Game of Thrones, he sells his sister as a wife to the Dothraki Khal Drogo, as a means to secure the allegiance of Drogo's army toward his goal of reclaiming the throne.[7] Frustrated with Drogo, Viserys demands a crown and threatens Daenerys and her unborn child; Drogo kills him by pouring a pot of molten gold over his head.

Daenerys later names one of her dragons Viserion, after Viserys. She explains that in spite of everything, he was still her brother, and that his draconic namesake will help do what he could not. She also tries to remember him as the good person he was before the stresses of their exile made him violent and bitter, and acknowledges that he at least kept her alive and safe through her childhood.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viserys_Targaryen

I definitely said Viserion, her dragon. I know she didn't like her brother I read the books and watched the show. But however little she cared him her brother, her love for her dragons is endless. When Viserion died at the night kings hand she was distraught. To me, your logic doesnt make a lot of sense.

[Sister Midnight]

I love GoT and literally just finished rewatching all 7 seasons. It doesn't make any sense why the third dragon would be scum. Even if he was named after Danny's shit brother she still loved Viserion immensely.

She did no5 love him immensely, she loved him, but feared him. He physically hurt her, and emotionally abused her, and sold her to Khal Drogo in exchange for Drogo funding his invasion on Westeros. She did not try to stop Drogo from killing Viserion because she saw him for the villain he was. She loved him because he was her only living family and had raised her, but she knew his faults and feared him.

Viserys Targaryen is the second born son of Aerys II Targaryen.[6] Thirteen years before the events of the series, he and his sister Daenerys fled Westeros to escape death at the hands of rebel Robert Baratheon.[7] Viserys is an arrogant, cruel and ambitious man given to violent mood swings. In A Game of Thrones, he sells his sister as a wife to the Dothraki Khal Drogo, as a means to secure the allegiance of Drogo's army toward his goal of reclaiming the throne.[7] Frustrated with Drogo, Viserys demands a crown and threatens Daenerys and her unborn child; Drogo kills him by pouring a pot of molten gold over his head.

Daenerys later names one of her dragons Viserion, after Viserys. She explains that in spite of everything, he was still her brother, and that his draconic namesake will help do what he could not. She also tries to remember him as the good person he was before the stresses of their exile made him violent and bitter, and acknowledges that he at least kept her alive and safe through her childhood.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viserys_Targaryen

Viserys Targaryen is the second born son of Aerys II Targaryen.[6] Thirteen years before the events of the series, he and his sister Daenerys fled Westeros to escape death at the hands of rebel Robert Baratheon.[7] Viserys is an arrogant, cruel and ambitious man given to violent mood swings. In A Game of Thrones, he sells his sister as a wife to the Dothraki Khal Drogo, as a means to secure the allegiance of Drogo's army toward his goal of reclaiming the throne.[7] Frustrated with Drogo, Viserys demands a crown and threatens Daenerys and her unborn child; Drogo kills him by pouring a pot of molten gold over his head.

Daenerys later names one of her dragons Viserion, after Viserys. She explains that in spite of everything, he was still her brother, and that his draconic namesake will help do what he could not. She also tries to remember him as the good person he was before the stresses of their exile made him violent and bitter, and acknowledges that he at least kept her alive and safe through her childhood.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viserys_Targaryen

I definitely said Viserion, her dragon. I know she didn't like her brother I read the books and watched the show. But however little she cared him her brother, her love for her dragons is endless. When Viserion died at the night kings hand she was distraught. To me, your logic doesnt make a lot of sense.

How’s your health? Are you feelimg better? You have probably posted more in the past 24 hours than you have for the entire game, you must be on the mend. I’m very glad.

My logic makes perfect sense, Nadarr. Brewers would not give the most powerful role in the game to Dani’s baby dragon, especially not the one named after her crappy brother. Brewers gave it to Dani, I am Dani.

[Nadarr]

I am feeling much better, thank you. The dehydration after chronic migraines is an absolute bitch though. I chug water as if I am going to shrive up and become a raisin.

 

With brewers being a bastard mod it makes sense that he would do something like this. Equip the town with 3 cops. Especially since I am a day cop it allows the town an opportunity to investigate both day and night. With so many people, it gives the town a chance at a win.

[Jazzy95]

I see the logic for both, especially considering my connection to Dany in flavor. Would love some iSoc opinion.

[Sister Midnight]

With brewers being a bastard mod it makes sense that he would do something like this. Equip the town with 3 cops. Especially since I am a day cop it allows the town an opportunity to investigate both day and night. With so many people, it gives the town a chance at a win.

That makes no sense at all. Bastard mod has nothing to do with it. There is a logic to how he built this game and what you said is grasping at straws. It makes no sense at all to give a baby dragon the most powerful role. He did balance the game with 2 cops with names of two to heroic characters Tyrian and Daenerys. He would not give one cop the name of one of the rockstar characters and give the other a bit player’s name.

All the scum roles have characters of similar backgrounds and characteristics. Same with the cop names. Brewers matched GoT characters to their mafia roles, I’m just going to discuss the power ones with any detail.

-Colonel Medve, Pycelle (Doctor) died n4 - pycelle was a Maester, aka doctor in the book, name matches role.
-iSocialism - feel free to role claim.
-Yehom, Bron (Vanilla Townie) was mod killed d4
**KevinH, Xaro Xhoan Daxos. (Jack of all trades) Essos Mafia Died N3 - Xaro Xhoan Daxos was a sleazy Suiter trying to get Dani to marry him for her dragons. He offers knowledge, gifts, transportation, in other words, the character himself is a jack of all trades.
-Kvrest, Rhaegal (Vanilla Townie) Was lynched D3
-Lachiton, Sandor Clegane (jack of trades) Died n1. Sandor, also known as the hound, is a top fighter, a member of Joffrey’s court, protects Sansa, is the only guard who never beats her, in his own way he’s a jack of all trades.
-Lord MK, Dontos Holland (Even Day Jester) was lynched D2 and wins - Dontos Holland - an alcoholic knight who is forced to be a jester for the rest of his life after turning up drunk for knight games.
-LordSunday, Shae (nymphomaniac) died n4- Shea is a prostitute, which is the closest fit to nymphomaniac.
-Rafay, Varys (Watcher) Died n1 - Varys is the master of whispers, sending village children to follow people, spy on them, and report back. Basically he’s a watcher.
**Rhizoctonia, Stannis Baratheon (JOAT), Westerosi Mafia died n4. Stannis thinks he’s the heir to the court because Joffrey is a bastard, he spent his life in service to his late brother the king, performing many different jobs, as a jack of all trades
-Robert2424, Drogon, (The Flying Pumkin that Shoots laser Beams out of its ass) was lynched d4
-SeaBeeGipson, Tywin Lannister (Ascetic Townie) Died N2 - Tywin is the Lannister patriarch, does whatever he wants and @nswers to no one, which makes him Ascetic - a role modifier (though it can function as a role in its own right) that causes a player to be immune to all actions at Night except kills. More precisely, Ascetic reflexively Roleblocks all actions taken against them except kills.

***Sister Midnight, I am Daenerys Targaryen- town cop. Dani takes over leading her late husband’s khalasar, protects the khalasar and her dragons from the likes of the merchant Xaro Xhoan Daxos, the warlock Pyat Pree (most likely the name of the other Essos scum, btw TW had the same name guess). In short, she is the rockstar of Essos.

-Jazzy - feel free to role claim

***The Warrior, Tyrion Lannister (Flavor Cop) died n4- as I already said, Tyrian is a rockstar in the book, he does everything he can to keep Westeros a good and safe place. He’s the hero of Westeros.
**Velocity, Davos Seaworth (Cop), Westerosi Mafia, Died N1. Davos is Stannis Baratheon’s right hand and will do anything to protect him and his family. Guarding that faction like a cop.
-Wolfpacks, Illyn Payne (Jailer) Died N3- “Ser Ilyn Payne is a knight from House Payne. He serves as the King's Justice, the royal executioner” this is the closest you can get to a jailor.
****Nadarr claims to be Viserion, a a town cop. Viserion is a baby dragon, named after Dani’s odious brother. This sounds very unlikely, bastard mod or not. Completely out of step with the game set up! I guessing she is Pyat Pree, the Essos scum cop.

Brewers has made it clear ther are 2 scum factions, each with a scum cop and a scum joat. He has matched roles with characters consistently. So far, everyone seems to agree 5here are 2 town cops.

The Essos scum cop is alive and the town cop is alive

I’m claiming I’m Dani, town cop.
Nadarr is claimin* she’s a baby dragon town cop
My claim makes sense, hers does not.

I see the logic for both, especially considering my connection to Dany in flavor. Would love some iSoc opinion.

Could you please unvote me while you consider all this?

[Jazzy95]

I did unvote you, but in case Brewers doesn't accept how I did it:

 

UNVOTE

[Sister Midnight]

Thank you.

[brewersalliance]

Vote Count 5.02

 

iSocialism (0) 

Jazzy (0)

Nadarr (1) Sister Midnight

Sister Midnight (0)

 

 

Not Voting :  iSocialism, Jazzy, nadarr

 

 

With 4 Alive it takes 3 to lynch or 2 at deadline.  Deadline is 2/5 at 1PM CN time

[iSocialism]

One town/two
One SK
One scum and
Me a swing vote for town or scum.

I don't see how TW could have gotten rhiz, unless he was also a one shot.

The town player cannot win unless, I'm lynched or no lynched and scum and SK kill each other. If the town is playing to win he needs to vote me or get a no lynch in.
Scum can't win without the SK and the town or I gone.
SK can't win without the scum and town or I gone.

My main concern is going after the SK, he's or her win will cost me a lost such as everyone else. If we lynch the SK everyone still have they're chance of winning besides town. If we lynch scum, the SK will win. If we lynch someone else, who ever isn't dead the next day wins.

The SK needs me to mislynch (scum or town) or for scum to take out another player in the night
The town needs me lynched or not to lynch someone and survive the night.
The scum needs for me to lynch or have sk lynched or survive the night.
I need a SK lynched or scum lynch with a SK killing the town.
*No one truly needs me since it takes two vote at deadline.

We all need survival for our individual win, survival will be easiest with fewer night killings be able to be done. Via lynching Scum or SK....

My concern isn't if nadarr is lying, but if she's the SK or scum if she is lying.

Right now claiming scum makes sense, then town, then never SK.

[Jazzy95]

Well I don't think flavor cops can kill and Brewers didn't mention a specialty...

[Sister Midnight]

One town/two
One SK
One scum and
Me a swing vote for town or scum.

I don't see how TW could have gotten rhiz, unless he was also a one shot.

The town player cannot win unless, I'm lynched or no lynched and scum and SK kill each other. If the town is playing to win he needs to vote me or get a no lynch in.
Scum can't win without the SK and the town or I gone.
SK can't win without the scum and town or I gone.

My main concern is going after the SK, he's or her win will cost me a lost such as everyone else. If we lynch the SK everyone still have they're chance of winning besides town. If we lynch scum, the SK will win. If we lynch someone else, who ever isn't dead the next day wins.

The SK needs me to mislynch (scum or town) or for scum to take out another player in the night
The town needs me lynched or not to lynch someone and survive the night.
The scum needs for me to lynch or have sk lynched or survive the night.
I need a SK lynched or scum lynch with a SK killing the town.
*No one truly needs me since it takes two vote at deadline.

We all need survival for our individual win, survival will be easiest with fewer night killings be able to be done. Via lynching Scum or SK....

My concern isn't if nadarr is lying, but if she's the SK or scum if she is lying.

Right now claiming scum makes sense, then town, then never SK.

Well I don't think flavor cops can kill and Brewers didn't mention a specialty...

There is no serial killer! Read this:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

Jester balances like a guaranteed mislynch. To balance this, sometimes when Jesters die the moderator enacts some pro-Town act to counterbalance this; for instance, the player who hammers a Jester wins a One-Shot Vig kill. That would be TW! He took out Rhizo, Rhizo took out TW. Nadarr took out the lovers. 4 deaths 3 kills. No sk!

You need to lynchthe one remaining scumtoday if town is to win. I am the cop. Nadarr is the scum. Let’s win this with a town win! If we don’t lynch scum today the town will lose!

THERE IS NO SK

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

[Sister Midnight]

Ps: @ Brewsky “Most people will probably still tell you to simply not use Jesters though.”

[brewersalliance]

Ps: @ Brewsky “Most people will probably still tell you to simply not use Jesters though.”

PS:  since when does "most people"  apply to me

[Sister Midnight]

One town/two
One SK
One scum and
Me a swing vote for town or scum.

I don't see how TW could have gotten rhiz, unless he was also a one shot.

The town player cannot win unless, I'm lynched or no lynched and scum and SK kill each other. If the town is playing to win he needs to vote me or get a no lynch in.
Scum can't win without the SK and the town or I gone.
SK can't win without the scum and town or I gone.

My main concern is going after the SK, he's or her win will cost me a lost such as everyone else. If we lynch the SK everyone still have they're chance of winning besides town. If we lynch scum, the SK will win. If we lynch someone else, who ever isn't dead the next day wins.

The SK needs me to mislynch (scum or town) or for scum to take out another player in the night
The town needs me lynched or not to lynch someone and survive the night.
The scum needs for me to lynch or have sk lynched or survive the night.
I need a SK lynched or scum lynch with a SK killing the town.
*No one truly needs me since it takes two vote at deadline.

We all need survival for our individual win, survival will be easiest with fewer night killings be able to be done. Via lynching Scum or SK....

My concern isn't if nadarr is lying, but if she's the SK or scum if she is lying.

Right now claiming scum makes sense, then town, then never SK.

Well I don't think flavor cops can kill and Brewers didn't mention a specialty...

There is no serial killer! Read this:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

Jester balances like a guaranteed mislynch. To balance this, sometimes when Jesters die the moderator enacts some pro-Town act to counterbalance this; for instance, the player who hammers a Jester wins a One-Shot Vig kill. That would be TW! He took out Rhizo, Rhizo took out TW. Nadarr took out the lovers. 4 deaths 3 kills. No sk!

You need to lynchthe one remaining scumtoday if town is to win. I am the cop. Nadarr is the scum. Let’s win this with a town win! If we don’t lynch scum today the town will lose!

THERE IS NO SK
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester

Read the above carefully! There is no SK. There is one scum. Do you want her to go to trial by combat? I have nothing more I can say. If you guys read over the history of the game I have consistently acted like a cop. I guessed MK was jester because I investigated him and he came up not guilty and he acted like he wanted to be lynched, I actively hunted scum all game.

The game started over a month ago. Nadarr has hidden all game the whole time, coming out only to hammer a townie. Then she became annoyed because I was questioning her being silent the entire game and said she had been sick.. For a month. With a migraine. Ive never heard of a month long migraine, I would think something like that would cause hospitalization. Does any of this sound like townie behavior?

There is no SK. TW hammered the jester and got a 1 shot vig kill, that is why there were three deaths last night. Read the link above, it clearly states this is how mods balance having a jester.

The deadline to vote is TOMORROW! If we do not lynch Nadarr, scum wins. We must lynch her before deadline.

[Jazzy95]

Brewer's what happens if two players are tied under half-majority? Both go to trial or the first one?

[brewersalliance]

First one to reach it does

[Jazzy95]

I have to let it go to trial. I'm Silver, Dany's horse and a townie.

 

I can't imagine why Brewers would include four of Dany's pets and make ONE of them scum. But from a S1/S2 perspective, Dany was definitely scum to the Lannisters. But SM makes logical points while Nadarr is quiet.

 

I can't decide so I'll let chance do it.

[Nadarr]

I understand your need to let it go to trial by combat. I just got off work so I wasnt able to post throughout the day. But that leaves iSoc. If we all are who we say we are, maybe iSoc come back from the dead changed.

[iSocialism]

Vote Nadar

SM convinced me