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As long as no-one RC to provide us with some information, our best course of action shurely must be no lynch?
Yes, we'll loose another guy during night unless a protective role gets lucky but the odds for scum hit investigative roles is still pretty low.
By D3 we ought to have atleast something to go on?
Any other thoughts?

The delicate situation that some players have is that they know something but by revealing their role, they would become a target for the next night kill.

Brewersalliance and Lord MK voted for me with very weak justification. I'm just a townie so I know they're wrong but the others players have to consider that maybe they know more than they are revealing. If there are cops/trackers/watchers, they have information to help them make better decisions. Maybe somebody tracked Brewers so they know that Brewers didn't visit me and doesn't really know.

Eventually, the pieces come together and we can trap somebody in a lie.

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When did i vote for you?
Even if i did, i don't intend on keeping it there for that long.
I do want to see who else will pile on you, before i unvote.
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and since we did a no lynch we have nothing to go off.  awesome
 
vote kevinH

 

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We seem to have two wagons forming both with different ideologies.

 

I don't think Kevin should be punished due his usual play style.


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We seem to have two wagons forming both with different ideologies.

I don't think Kevin should be punished due his usual play style.


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RIP WP, you will be missed (and so will your chili)
 
I don't know why you guys are upset about the no lynch, its literally what happens on all D1's. Now all of the sudden its wrong? Absolutely nothing can be gained from a lynch on D1. Sure you might hit scum, but most of the time it will be town. The odds weigh heavier on us losing a townie.
 
Brewers seems more suspect than usual, swinging at the fences even with the lack of evidence to support his votes. You seem to be fine with D1 no lynches in the past, which leads me to believe that you wanted a townie dead yesterday. I'm not sure how a lynch would give us something to go off of, other than a dead townie. Based off that, i know where i'm putting my vote until another option seems better.
 
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I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol
As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

@kevin I'm confused and feel like I missed something. Why do u think I visited you lol


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@kevin I'm confused and feel like I missed something. Why do u think I visited you lol

 

It was all hypothetical.

Maybe your vote on me was because you know more than you are saying because you visited me.
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@kevin I'm confused and feel like I missed something. Why do u think I visited you lol

 
It was all hypothetical.

Maybe your vote on me was because you know more than you are saying because you visited me.
But maybe somebody could prove that you didn't visit me.

If my vote on you was because I visited you that would mean I found something incriminating and you thinking that would only make sense if there was something incriminating to find....


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@kevin I'm confused and feel like I missed something. Why do u think I visited you lol


It was all hypothetical.

Maybe your vote on me was because you know more than you are saying because you visited me.
But maybe somebody could prove that you didn't visit me.
If my vote on you was because I visited you that would mean I found something incriminating and you thinking that would only make sense if there was something incriminating to find....

Could also be scum aligned and he has a good town PR.

I don’t know yet, I haven’t been super up to date on this and I tried to send something yesterday but apparently didn’t. The basis of it was I don’t know if I was another no lynch or to lynch somebody because there are pros and cons to each.

I will say that brewer being busy with irl stuff is true, he hasn’t been around much anywhere for a while. I do find it interesting that some people are going after Kevin for his no-lynch policies considering he’s done that forever it seems like. As of now o have no opinion swaying on either side of this... debacle if we can put it that way.

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I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

 

I don't mean you not being as active, i mean that you are just throwing votes with little to no reason (which i think is unlike you, other than d1 voting that is).

 

You mentioned that we have nothing to go off of due to the no lynch, what information could have been gained from someone being lynched? 


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I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

 

I don't mean you not being as active, i mean that you are just throwing votes with little to no reason (which i think is unlike you, other than d1 voting that is).

 

You mentioned that we have nothing to go off of due to the no lynch, what information could have been gained from someone being lynched? 

 

wagon analysis.  its the entire point of a day 1 lynch.  we no lynch every single game and never learn anything.  day 1 is 10000000% pointless.  id rather lynch someone and have something to go off at least, rather than going in blind.  when we lynch d1 our PRs can have a bit more info to go on instead of picking targets at random and we can analyze the wagons.

 

and im sorry i am voting with reasons not up to your standards.  we have ZERO information.  so what do you think we should do?  no lynch and waste the day again?  we need to lynch someone and since we no lynched d1 and WASTED the day, we have nothing to go off, so its just gonna be random guesswork. 


I will say that brewer being busy with irl stuff is true, he hasn’t been around much anywhere for a while. I do find it interesting that some people are going after Kevin for his no-lynch policies considering he’s done that forever it seems like. As of now o have no opinion swaying on either side of this... debacle if we can put it that way.

 

im just doing it because i am frustrated with no lynching and gaining NOTHING ever on d1.  and we have to lynch someone, and its a 100% crapshoot right now so he is as good as anyone.  

 

And for those who are against lynching d1 just an FYI, the last game i remember us lynching someone d1 (not including my games where it wasnt allowed) we lynched a scum...


 

RIP WP, you will be missed (and so will your chili)

 

I don't know why you guys are upset about the no lynch, its literally what happens on all D1's. Now all of the sudden its wrong? Absolutely nothing can be gained from a lynch on D1. Sure you might hit scum, but most of the time it will be town. The odds weigh heavier on us losing a townie.

 

Brewers seems more suspect than usual, swinging at the fences even with the lack of evidence to support his votes. You seem to be fine with D1 no lynches in the past, which leads me to believe that you wanted a townie dead yesterday. I'm not sure how a lynch would give us something to go off of, other than a dead townie. Based off that, i know where i'm putting my vote until another option seems better.

 

Vote Brewersalliance

 

 

I have to agree with this. 

 

It's D2, if a pile needs to happen, we at least have 1 less and the possibility that a role found out something.  More than likely there's a cop and he at least knows a confirmed town.  I don't understand the sentiment of SBG, if the consensus is D2 we know very little and it will likely be a pile on someone without much(like D1), then why would someone recommend doing that twice?  Why if we know we're going to have to do it today, would we also want to do it D1, and now we our lynching twice with little to nothing.  

 

This feels a bit off.  You are always very anti no lynch and im pretty sure you even mentioned it in this game but now you are agreeing with CM about the whole no lynch thing?  something feels off with this post/contradictory



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Wagon analysis of likely mostly town members voting just to vote so there can be a D1 lynch for a change.  Here we go again, another one complaining it's now D2 and it's a crap shoot.  The mere fact D2 is a crapshoot is a valid reason why D1 should be a NL unless someone slips up and says something worthy of a vote.  Wanting two "crap shoot" lynches....doesn't make sense to me when the reason is merely "cause we never do it."  D1 wagons are almost completely useless to look at, and all it gives is targets scum can use to try to push a lynch of another town on the wagon of a mislynch of a town D1.


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I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

 

I don't mean you not being as active, i mean that you are just throwing votes with little to no reason (which i think is unlike you, other than d1 voting that is).

 

You mentioned that we have nothing to go off of due to the no lynch, what information could have been gained from someone being lynched? 

 

wagon analysis.  its the entire point of a day 1 lynch.  we no lynch every single game and never learn anything.  day 1 is 10000000% pointless.  id rather lynch someone and have something to go off at least, rather than going in blind.  when we lynch d1 our PRs can have a bit more info to go on instead of picking targets at random and we can analyze the wagons.

 

and im sorry i am voting with reasons not up to your standards.  we have ZERO information.  so what do you think we should do?  no lynch and waste the day again?  we need to lynch someone and since we no lynched d1 and WASTED the day, we have nothing to go off, so its just gonna be random guesswork. 


 

 

I will say that brewer being busy with irl stuff is true, he hasn’t been around much anywhere for a while. I do find it interesting that some people are going after Kevin for his no-lynch policies considering he’s done that forever it seems like. As of now o have no opinion swaying on either side of this... debacle if we can put it that way.

 

im just doing it because i am frustrated with no lynching and gaining NOTHING ever on d1.  and we have to lynch someone, and its a 100% crapshoot right now so he is as good as anyone.  

 

And for those who are against lynching d1 just an FYI, the last game i remember us lynching someone d1 (not including my games where it wasnt allowed) we lynched a scum...


 

RIP WP, you will be missed (and so will your chili)

 

I don't know why you guys are upset about the no lynch, its literally what happens on all D1's. Now all of the sudden its wrong? Absolutely nothing can be gained from a lynch on D1. Sure you might hit scum, but most of the time it will be town. The odds weigh heavier on us losing a townie.

 

Brewers seems more suspect than usual, swinging at the fences even with the lack of evidence to support his votes. You seem to be fine with D1 no lynches in the past, which leads me to believe that you wanted a townie dead yesterday. I'm not sure how a lynch would give us something to go off of, other than a dead townie. Based off that, i know where i'm putting my vote until another option seems better.

 

Vote Brewersalliance

 

 

I have to agree with this. 

 

It's D2, if a pile needs to happen, we at least have 1 less and the possibility that a role found out something.  More than likely there's a cop and he at least knows a confirmed town.  I don't understand the sentiment of SBG, if the consensus is D2 we know very little and it will likely be a pile on someone without much(like D1), then why would someone recommend doing that twice?  Why if we know we're going to have to do it today, would we also want to do it D1, and now we our lynching twice with little to nothing.  

 

This feels a bit off.  You are always very anti no lynch and im pretty sure you even mentioned it in this game but now you are agreeing with CM about the whole no lynch thing?  something feels off with this post/contradictory

 

 

You can go back and read all my comments towards D1 lynches in past games.  It's remained the same.  I am not opposed to it if there's VALID reason or a suspicion, not this "because we never do it," BS a few of you are spewing, or this hallow excuse of looking at wagon when such a lynch would likely be mostly or all town causing it.  I've adamantly stated D1 is useless many times unless Mod's implement at the very least a scenario you did a few games where someone has to be put up by 1/2 majority and they may or may not live, or stated the game should start N1.  I don't recall ever stating we should lynch D1 just to lynch unless there's a reasonable suspicion, so please reference where I have if you're gonna state such with proof.


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Brewersalliance (2): KevinH, Colonel Medved

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Eogrim (0):

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At the risk of getting NK'ed I'd like to claim that I have a power role and Kevin should not be lynched.

 

I'm a tracker and visited Kevin last night. He did not target anyone.


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At the risk of getting NK'ed I'd like to claim that I have a power role and Kevin should not be lynched.

 

I'm a tracker and visited Kevin last night. He did not target anyone.

well that kind of came out of no where and feels premature... u might as well give us your full claim/character name now.


 

 

 

I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

 

I don't mean you not being as active, i mean that you are just throwing votes with little to no reason (which i think is unlike you, other than d1 voting that is).

 

You mentioned that we have nothing to go off of due to the no lynch, what information could have been gained from someone being lynched? 

 

wagon analysis.  its the entire point of a day 1 lynch.  we no lynch every single game and never learn anything.  day 1 is 10000000% pointless.  id rather lynch someone and have something to go off at least, rather than going in blind.  when we lynch d1 our PRs can have a bit more info to go on instead of picking targets at random and we can analyze the wagons.

 

and im sorry i am voting with reasons not up to your standards.  we have ZERO information.  so what do you think we should do?  no lynch and waste the day again?  we need to lynch someone and since we no lynched d1 and WASTED the day, we have nothing to go off, so its just gonna be random guesswork. 


 

 

I will say that brewer being busy with irl stuff is true, he hasn’t been around much anywhere for a while. I do find it interesting that some people are going after Kevin for his no-lynch policies considering he’s done that forever it seems like. As of now o have no opinion swaying on either side of this... debacle if we can put it that way.

 

im just doing it because i am frustrated with no lynching and gaining NOTHING ever on d1.  and we have to lynch someone, and its a 100% crapshoot right now so he is as good as anyone.  

 

And for those who are against lynching d1 just an FYI, the last game i remember us lynching someone d1 (not including my games where it wasnt allowed) we lynched a scum...


 

RIP WP, you will be missed (and so will your chili)

 

I don't know why you guys are upset about the no lynch, its literally what happens on all D1's. Now all of the sudden its wrong? Absolutely nothing can be gained from a lynch on D1. Sure you might hit scum, but most of the time it will be town. The odds weigh heavier on us losing a townie.

 

Brewers seems more suspect than usual, swinging at the fences even with the lack of evidence to support his votes. You seem to be fine with D1 no lynches in the past, which leads me to believe that you wanted a townie dead yesterday. I'm not sure how a lynch would give us something to go off of, other than a dead townie. Based off that, i know where i'm putting my vote until another option seems better.

 

Vote Brewersalliance

 

 

I have to agree with this. 

 

It's D2, if a pile needs to happen, we at least have 1 less and the possibility that a role found out something.  More than likely there's a cop and he at least knows a confirmed town.  I don't understand the sentiment of SBG, if the consensus is D2 we know very little and it will likely be a pile on someone without much(like D1), then why would someone recommend doing that twice?  Why if we know we're going to have to do it today, would we also want to do it D1, and now we our lynching twice with little to nothing.  

 

This feels a bit off.  You are always very anti no lynch and im pretty sure you even mentioned it in this game but now you are agreeing with CM about the whole no lynch thing?  something feels off with this post/contradictory

 

 

You can go back and read all my comments towards D1 lynches in past games.  It's remained the same.  I am not opposed to it if there's VALID reason or a suspicion, not this "because we never do it," BS a few of you are spewing, or this hallow excuse of looking at wagon when such a lynch would likely be mostly or all town causing it.  I've adamantly stated D1 is useless many times unless Mod's implement at the very least a scenario you did a few games where someone has to be put up by 1/2 majority and they may or may not live, or stated the game should start N1.  I don't recall ever stating we should lynch D1 just to lynch unless there's a reasonable suspicion, so please reference where I have if you're gonna state such with proof.

 

maybe i am wrong and im just thinking about how you said d1 is useless and just thought u had a stronger opinion on that.  i am too lazy to read back so ill just take your word for it haha



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At the risk of getting NK'ed I'd like to claim that I have a power role and Kevin should not be lynched.

 

I'm a tracker and visited Kevin last night. He did not target anyone.

well that kind of came out of no where and feels premature... u might as well give us your full claim/character name now.


 

 

 

I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

 

I don't mean you not being as active, i mean that you are just throwing votes with little to no reason (which i think is unlike you, other than d1 voting that is).

 

You mentioned that we have nothing to go off of due to the no lynch, what information could have been gained from someone being lynched? 

 

wagon analysis.  its the entire point of a day 1 lynch.  we no lynch every single game and never learn anything.  day 1 is 10000000% pointless.  id rather lynch someone and have something to go off at least, rather than going in blind.  when we lynch d1 our PRs can have a bit more info to go on instead of picking targets at random and we can analyze the wagons.

 

and im sorry i am voting with reasons not up to your standards.  we have ZERO information.  so what do you think we should do?  no lynch and waste the day again?  we need to lynch someone and since we no lynched d1 and WASTED the day, we have nothing to go off, so its just gonna be random guesswork. 


 

 

I will say that brewer being busy with irl stuff is true, he hasn’t been around much anywhere for a while. I do find it interesting that some people are going after Kevin for his no-lynch policies considering he’s done that forever it seems like. As of now o have no opinion swaying on either side of this... debacle if we can put it that way.

 

im just doing it because i am frustrated with no lynching and gaining NOTHING ever on d1.  and we have to lynch someone, and its a 100% crapshoot right now so he is as good as anyone.  

 

And for those who are against lynching d1 just an FYI, the last game i remember us lynching someone d1 (not including my games where it wasnt allowed) we lynched a scum...


 

RIP WP, you will be missed (and so will your chili)

 

I don't know why you guys are upset about the no lynch, its literally what happens on all D1's. Now all of the sudden its wrong? Absolutely nothing can be gained from a lynch on D1. Sure you might hit scum, but most of the time it will be town. The odds weigh heavier on us losing a townie.

 

Brewers seems more suspect than usual, swinging at the fences even with the lack of evidence to support his votes. You seem to be fine with D1 no lynches in the past, which leads me to believe that you wanted a townie dead yesterday. I'm not sure how a lynch would give us something to go off of, other than a dead townie. Based off that, i know where i'm putting my vote until another option seems better.

 

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I have to agree with this. 

 

It's D2, if a pile needs to happen, we at least have 1 less and the possibility that a role found out something.  More than likely there's a cop and he at least knows a confirmed town.  I don't understand the sentiment of SBG, if the consensus is D2 we know very little and it will likely be a pile on someone without much(like D1), then why would someone recommend doing that twice?  Why if we know we're going to have to do it today, would we also want to do it D1, and now we our lynching twice with little to nothing.  

 

This feels a bit off.  You are always very anti no lynch and im pretty sure you even mentioned it in this game but now you are agreeing with CM about the whole no lynch thing?  something feels off with this post/contradictory

 

 

You can go back and read all my comments towards D1 lynches in past games.  It's remained the same.  I am not opposed to it if there's VALID reason or a suspicion, not this "because we never do it," BS a few of you are spewing, or this hallow excuse of looking at wagon when such a lynch would likely be mostly or all town causing it.  I've adamantly stated D1 is useless many times unless Mod's implement at the very least a scenario you did a few games where someone has to be put up by 1/2 majority and they may or may not live, or stated the game should start N1.  I don't recall ever stating we should lynch D1 just to lynch unless there's a reasonable suspicion, so please reference where I have if you're gonna state such with proof.

 

maybe i am wrong and im just thinking about how you said d1 is useless and just thought u had a stronger opinion on that.  i am too lazy to read back so ill just take your word for it haha

 

 

 

I do believe D1 is useless, I don't deny that.  I have said just that for the last few games I've played.  D1 to me is merely a day where people post random nonsense or quotes depending on the theme of the game to get their post count up, then use that for the next few days a reason to lynch someone, because some don't care to spend the time to do the same.  As I've said, lynching D1 is never off the table for me if I get a hint of a possible scum, but not just to do it to do it.  D1 wagons are rarely worth looking at, as more so then not it's made up of all or mostly town, and a mislynch is a mere means for a scum to pick one on the wagon to pressure to mislynch again, or wagon is disregard since it's D1 and no one knows anything which it really should be.

 

Rarely do I vote NL.  Most times I wait to see if I believe there's a reason to suspect someone, or I don't vote because there is a quick rush to NL and end the day.  

 

My point has been for awhile to start the game N1 and skip D1 totally because it always ends in a no lynch (for good reasons), or Mod set a rule where someone has to be put up at least to 1/2 majority and his life is up to chance if the lynch will happen.  The Mod makes D1 meaningful because it has to.  But if you don't have some forced reason to lynch, in my eyes it's not worth just lynching for no reason(just because we never do it) when the probability is low you'll hit scum, the wagons aren't meaningful to look at, and you're likely to expose and/or lynch a town PR before it can be used.  Now if someone brings up something someone said, then by all means, pressure them and push them if you suspect them, but given there's no pressure to do so because there's no rule saying we have to lynch or possibly lynch someone D1, there is no suspicion to go off of, and I'm not just up for going "eenie minie mo" out of nothing.

 

I'd be up for such a D1 rule in every game, but until it does no one is going to say anything but pointless fluff to warrant suspicion.


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At the risk of getting NK'ed I'd like to claim that I have a power role and Kevin should not be lynched.

 

I'm a tracker and visited Kevin last night. He did not target anyone.

well that kind of came out of no where and feels premature... u might as well give us your full claim/character name now.


 

 

 

I'm pretty sure I'm usually extremely vocal about being against a no Lynch d1 so I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about lol As far as me "acting different" I'm just super busy with RL and don't have the time to be hyper active like usual

 

I don't mean you not being as active, i mean that you are just throwing votes with little to no reason (which i think is unlike you, other than d1 voting that is).

 

You mentioned that we have nothing to go off of due to the no lynch, what information could have been gained from someone being lynched? 

 

wagon analysis.  its the entire point of a day 1 lynch.  we no lynch every single game and never learn anything.  day 1 is 10000000% pointless.  id rather lynch someone and have something to go off at least, rather than going in blind.  when we lynch d1 our PRs can have a bit more info to go on instead of picking targets at random and we can analyze the wagons.

 

and im sorry i am voting with reasons not up to your standards.  we have ZERO information.  so what do you think we should do?  no lynch and waste the day again?  we need to lynch someone and since we no lynched d1 and WASTED the day, we have nothing to go off, so its just gonna be random guesswork. 


 

 

I will say that brewer being busy with irl stuff is true, he hasn’t been around much anywhere for a while. I do find it interesting that some people are going after Kevin for his no-lynch policies considering he’s done that forever it seems like. As of now o have no opinion swaying on either side of this... debacle if we can put it that way.

 

im just doing it because i am frustrated with no lynching and gaining NOTHING ever on d1.  and we have to lynch someone, and its a 100% crapshoot right now so he is as good as anyone.  

 

And for those who are against lynching d1 just an FYI, the last game i remember us lynching someone d1 (not including my games where it wasnt allowed) we lynched a scum...


 

RIP WP, you will be missed (and so will your chili)

 

I don't know why you guys are upset about the no lynch, its literally what happens on all D1's. Now all of the sudden its wrong? Absolutely nothing can be gained from a lynch on D1. Sure you might hit scum, but most of the time it will be town. The odds weigh heavier on us losing a townie.

 

Brewers seems more suspect than usual, swinging at the fences even with the lack of evidence to support his votes. You seem to be fine with D1 no lynches in the past, which leads me to believe that you wanted a townie dead yesterday. I'm not sure how a lynch would give us something to go off of, other than a dead townie. Based off that, i know where i'm putting my vote until another option seems better.

 

Vote Brewersalliance

 

 

I have to agree with this. 

 

It's D2, if a pile needs to happen, we at least have 1 less and the possibility that a role found out something.  More than likely there's a cop and he at least knows a confirmed town.  I don't understand the sentiment of SBG, if the consensus is D2 we know very little and it will likely be a pile on someone without much(like D1), then why would someone recommend doing that twice?  Why if we know we're going to have to do it today, would we also want to do it D1, and now we our lynching twice with little to nothing.  

 

This feels a bit off.  You are always very anti no lynch and im pretty sure you even mentioned it in this game but now you are agreeing with CM about the whole no lynch thing?  something feels off with this post/contradictory

 

 

You can go back and read all my comments towards D1 lynches in past games.  It's remained the same.  I am not opposed to it if there's VALID reason or a suspicion, not this "because we never do it," BS a few of you are spewing, or this hallow excuse of looking at wagon when such a lynch would likely be mostly or all town causing it.  I've adamantly stated D1 is useless many times unless Mod's implement at the very least a scenario you did a few games where someone has to be put up by 1/2 majority and they may or may not live, or stated the game should start N1.  I don't recall ever stating we should lynch D1 just to lynch unless there's a reasonable suspicion, so please reference where I have if you're gonna state such with proof.

 

maybe i am wrong and im just thinking about how you said d1 is useless and just thought u had a stronger opinion on that.  i am too lazy to read back so ill just take your word for it haha

 

 

 

I do believe D1 is useless, I don't deny that.  I have said just that for the last few games I've played.  D1 to me is merely a day where people post random nonsense or quotes depending on the theme of the game to get their post count up, then use that for the next few days a reason to lynch someone, because some don't care to spend the time to do the same.  As I've said, lynching D1 is never off the table for me if I get a hint of a possible scum, but not just to do it to do it.  D1 wagons are rarely worth looking at, as more so then not it's made up of all or mostly town, and a mislynch is a mere means for a scum to pick one on the wagon to pressure to mislynch again, or wagon is disregard since it's D1 and no one knows anything which it really should be.

 

Rarely do I vote NL.  Most times I wait to see if I believe there's a reason to suspect someone, or I don't vote because there is a quick rush to NL and end the day.  

 

My point has been for awhile to start the game N1 and skip D1 totally because it always ends in a no lynch (for good reasons), or Mod set a rule where someone has to be put up at least to 1/2 majority and his life is up to chance if the lynch will happen.  The Mod makes D1 meaningful because it has to.  But if you don't have some forced reason to lynch, in my eyes it's not worth just lynching for no reason(just because we never do it) when the probability is low you'll hit scum, the wagons aren't meaningful to look at, and you're likely to expose and/or lynch a town PR before it can be used.  Now if someone brings up something someone said, then by all means, pressure them and push them if you suspect them, but given there's no pressure to do so because there's no rule saying we have to lynch or possibly lynch someone D1, there is no suspicion to go off of, and I'm not just up for going "eenie minie mo" out of nothing.

 

I'd be up for such a D1 rule in every game, but until it does no one is going to say anything but pointless fluff to warrant suspicion.

 

yeah i do think youre probably right.  i think in my future games i am going to start them with a night start to avoid d1 being pointless



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