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[Lyner]

You said that you got infected on N3

 

That means I'm not infected on N3, which means I'm the cult leader. Which means I should've known all my followers, CM included. Another contradiction.

 

 

Who slipped his tongue now? Or are we going back to the Lyner is scum conspiration?

[brewersalliance]

Where is CM. He can clear this all up if he can tell us when he was infected

[Lord MK]

You said that you got infected on N3

That means I'm not infected on N3, which means I'm the cult leader. Which means I should've known all my followers, CM included. Another contradiction.


Who slipped his tongue now? Or are we going back to the Lyner is scum conspiration?

No no, we still don't know if you were infected on either n1 or n2.

@CM, where are you when we need you?

[The Warrior]

@Kevin - Can the members of the mafia be infected and flipped to cult?

[Rafay]

  Lyner, on 02 May 2020 - 13:47, said: I have evangelistic modifier, so I'd return infected when investigated. I'm not infected yet

 

 

This is false my friend. You don't have this modifier!! Because I do....or does everyone have it?

[Robert2424]

Deep derp derp. The plot thickens as mafia/the virus/cult leaders hids in the back.

[Lord MK]

Lyner, on 02 May 2020 - 13:47, said: I have evangelistic modifier, so I'd return infected when investigated. I'm not infected yet

This is false my friend. You don't have this modifier!! Because I do....or does everyone have it?

He is lying, rafay.
Just remember that.

[KevinH]

 

• Mafia that become Infected will show as Infected to investigations but will retain the original Mafia win condition.

 

 

Mafia can become infected and will count toward the Cult's win condition but will not win with the Cult.

[KevinH]

Vote Count

Lyner (2): Lord MK, iSocialism,
Rafay (1): Canik,
Lord MK (1): Lyner,
Velocity (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
Nadarr (0):
Torres951 (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Canik (0):
The Warrior (0):
iSocialism (0):
 
No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Velocity, Colonel Medved, Rafay, Nadarr, The Warrior, Torres951, Brewersalliance,

Tree Stumps: Robert2424, Dontavian, SealTeamPi,
 

With 11 alive it take 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, May 7, at 19:00 EDT .
 

[The Warrior]

I’m not saying Lyner has the modifier or not but of course Rafay would claim he has it if we follow the idea that he’s the cult leader.

[Rafay]

I’m not saying Lyner has the modifier or not but of course Rafay would claim he has it if we follow the idea that he’s the cult leader.

 

Why just assume only one idea??

 

There could be a possible savior or reviver can it not be?? 

[Lyner]

Think about it, this is a no reveal game. With scum side alone town is already in a difficult position, add cult into the mix and odds are super stacked against town.

 

There is no way town side aren't given a cop. Bloodhound & private investigator are too fragile for catching scum.

 

Also there goes Rafay. Want to lynch him first?

[Nadarr]

@lyner, what were your exact results on your targets, word for word?

 

I'm pretty sure we are all still waiting on this, or did I miss it?

 

MK has made a really great case against you Lyner. Your story is shaky at best. Help yourself here and answer Brewers question please. Until then I am inclined to vote with MK.

 

Vote: Lyner

[Lord MK]

Think about it, this is a no reveal game. With scum side alone town is already in a difficult position, add cult into the mix and odds are super stacked against town.

There is no way town side aren't given a cop. Bloodhound & private investigator are too fragile for catching scum.

Also there goes Rafay. Want to lynch him first?

We don't need a cop role in this game.

The cop in this game is not the cop in usual games. It's not as powerful as those.
You are trying to sell the idea that the cop is the most important role, when it is clearly not.


Also, nice try throwing mud on rafay.
Hoping that we will let you go one more day, eh?

[Lyner]

 

@lyner, what were your exact results on your targets, word for word?

 

I'm pretty sure we are all still waiting on this, or did I miss it?

 

MK has made a really great case against you Lyner. Your story is shaky at best. Help yourself here and answer Brewers question please. Until then I am inclined to vote with MK.

 

Vote: Lyner

 

 

I already did. CM, TW, and Canik are "not Mafia"

 

 

 

Think about it, this is a no reveal game. With scum side alone town is already in a difficult position, add cult into the mix and odds are super stacked against town.

There is no way town side aren't given a cop. Bloodhound & private investigator are too fragile for catching scum.

Also there goes Rafay. Want to lynch him first?

We don't need a cop role in this game.

The cop in this game is not the cop in usual games. It's not as powerful as those.
You are trying to sell the idea that the cop is the most important role, when it is clearly not.


Also, nice try throwing mud on rafay.
Hoping that we will let you go one more day, eh?

Says the infected bloodhound.

[Lord MK]

Well, atleast i have come clean.

And also, what a way to go down from somewhat logical arguements to just brute attacks.

@lyner, what were your exact results on your targets, word for word?

I'm pretty sure we are all still waiting on this, or did I miss it?

MK has made a really great case against you Lyner. Your story is shaky at best. Help yourself here and answer Brewers question please. Until then I am inclined to vote with MK.

Vote: Lyner

Well,.he did say it.
But he has changed that story more times than you can count.
He first said that TW was town. Cm is town
Then Canik is town.

Then when exposed, he shifted to TW is not mafia.
Cm is not mafia.
Canik is not mafia.
He has been giving contradictions after contradictions.

[Lyner]

Alright I'm gonna disengage now, MK keeps repeating stuffs to confuse town. 

 

This is the summary for you lazy townies:

 

I'm an evangelistic cop (I will return "Infected" when investigated, despite my town status). I was forced to RC on day 2. At that point I only know that TW is not mafia, and because it won't help town in any fashion if I claimed cop that early, I decided to keep it ambiguous by claiming 'Investigative Role' instead of 'Cop'. Brewers assumed that I'm bloodhound and some of you took that as fact.

 

At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2.

 

Day 3 arrived, I got the result that CM is "not Mafia". So being the undercover cop I am, I continue stating that CM is Town. Torres claimed that CM is infected. I trusted Torres since it doesn't contradict my result, hence I started the wagon on CM. MK was trying to kill Nadarr instead of CM at this point, I wonder why.

 

Day 4 arrived, I got the result that Canik is "not Mafia". MK started the day by saying that I'm "not town" and torres saying that I'm "infected". This is consistent with my "Evangelistic" modifier. Note that I confessed that I have evangelistic modifier before Torres says that I'm infected. After Torres's claim now I'm forced to RC my true role: Cop. MK claimed that he was infected, would a townie that's infected confesses like that?

 

So far nobody challenged my cop status.

 

You need both investigator and bloodhound to confirm if someone is scum (one to confirm "not Town", and one to confirm "not infected"). If one of them dies then we have no way of knowing who is scum without a cop, think about that. A town cop is pretty much a given.

 

tl;dr I'm an undercover cop trying my best to hide from scums, and MK's behaviour is sketchy as hell

[Lord MK]

"an evangelistic cop (I will return "Infected" when investigated, despite my town status)."

Nope, that's not how Kevin says it in the role PM.
He uses a different wording.
So that's misrepresentation right there.

"At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2."

Well, it doesn't matter.
Town needs to eliminate both factions.
So the bloodhound is as valuable as a cop.
And bloodhound also eliminates who's scum, either way.
Bloodhound returns town or not town.
It's true that people who returned town may turn up infected down the road.
But they will never become scum
Town can only become infected, there's no path for a townie to become mafia.
So your reasoning that you were trying to hide is just baseless.
I would also like to invoke "Lynch all liars" at this point.
Brewers and iSoc may be infected now, but they are definitely not scum.
So a bloodhound is i would say, better than a cop from the town's perspective.
Since a cop would never know if a target is cult.
But I would have known if they were anti-town on that particular night.

"MK was trying to kill Nadarr instead of CM at this point, I wonder why."
I always try to kill her every game.
But the main thing is i didn't push it hard enough to kill her.
Also i didn't trust your findings on CM enough to chase that wagon. But i allowed it by not pushing nadarr hard as it was Torres who was the final true investigator.
I trusted his findings as he has been consistent so far.

"Note that I confessed that I have evangelistic modifier before Torres says that I'm infected."
Well, after my intial accusation, you obviously built that story to find a way out of that.

"MK claimed that he was infected, would a townie that's infected confesses like that?"
Well, I'm not town now, am I?
It's not a claim neither, it's a fact.
Look. The enemy of both town and infected is the scum.
Scum can kill.
Infected may infect.
There's a lot of roles, some of which already has been revealed to stop the spread and as well to get back people from the infected.
But not a lot of roles to stop the kill.

"If one of them dies then we have no way of knowing who is scum without a cop, think about that."
You are trying to escape by making this a life-or-death situation. It's not.


"I'm an undercover cop trying my best to hide from scums"

You are a scum desperate to hang on.

[brewersalliance]

At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2.

 

 

yeah but you implied bloodhound, which is even more powerful than cop and could out the mafia the exact same way as a regular cop, so by that logic they would be just as motivated to kill u. 

[brewersalliance]

You need both investigator and bloodhound to confirm if someone is scum (one to confirm "not Town", and one to confirm "not infected"). If one of them dies then we have no way of knowing who is scum without a cop, think about that. A town cop is pretty much a given.

 

this is also wrong.  A PI would confirm infected or not and a cop just confirms mafia not scum.  A bloodhound gets the results of town or not town.  which is exactly what u acted like at the start of the game

 

I just dont get your logic.  You are acting like a cop, which cannot detect the infected, is more valuable than a bloodhound, which detects both infected and mafia, and fully determines if they are town or not.

 

you straight up were saying players are town.  If you were a normal cop like you claim, you would have no clue if they were town or not.  all you would know is they are not mafia.  i just dont get your logic behind this.   what you did would have made u a bigger target, not a smaller one.  

and its just pretty convenient when called out on your flawed claims in the past you go "oh i mean scum is jut mafia"  when scum is ALL non town factions.  you might be town, but your actions and logic just do not follow or make sense.  and MK is not swaying me here, ive actually been avoiding reading his posts cause his claiming infected makes no sense to me either, and he is an anti town role for sure.  but at the same time, your actions and words make even less sense to me

 

either way, we win with killing all the scum: mafia and cult/infected.

 

We know for sure MK is scum since he admitted it,  Lyner could be scum or a townie with just flawed logic

 

we can kill either the confirmed scum or the suspected one.

 

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

 

Vote MK

 

also @CM:  dude where are you, you need to clarify some shit for us.