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[BA-08] Tiger King - MAFIA WINS

Cause I Saw a Tiger, now I understand.  I Saw a Tiger, and a Tiger Saw a Man.

 

 

Players:

  • Canik, Marc Thompson, a Bodyguard, Died N3
  • Colonel Medved
  • Jazzy
  • KevinH, Eric Crowe, a Ghoul was fired D4
  • Lord MK, Jeff Lowe, a Traitor, died D3
  • Nadar, Travis Maldando, a VT died N1
  • Rafay, Dillion Passage, a VT was fired D1
  • Robert2424, Joshua Dial, a VT died N2
  • SealTeamPi
  • The Warrior
  • Tony Maurice
  • Torres951, Marsha David, a VT was fired D2
  • Velocity, John Roenekie, a Role Cop died N4

Rules

  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
  • You may not vote No Lynch- if anyone votes no lynch, even as a troll vote, I will randomly mod kill someone ELSE from your faction
  • If no player reaches the half majority I will randomly mod kill one player from the bottom half of the post count
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.
  • Various Sanity's may or may not be in play
  • Mafia has Day Talk

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

  • ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day. Any player who does not meet the required post counts will be subject to a mod kill. A mod kill and a lynch may both happen at my discretion. If multiple players do not meet the requirement, each player may be subject to a mod kill at my discretion.
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That doesn't make any sense bro. Also you were convinced it was TW last time. Are you really convinced that it's not him anymore just because he role claimed as the main character?

 

Alright, boys.

 

We got rid of the policy lynch.

 

Well, one thing is sure.

Scum is a newbie faction.

No way that they get rid of Nadarr otherwise.

 

It's either STP, Tony Maurice or Torres.

 

I mean, you lost your biggest wrecking ball.

 

And thus,

Vote: STP.

 

MK seems to know something that  else here doesn’t... Care to expand?

 

For now Vote MK. Looks like he is hiding something.

 

Reading back through the thread to try to get any idea of who might be mafia since nothing from recently feels very helpful, and this exchange from the 2nd day seems potentially interesting. Remember, at this time MK was a traitor and should have known who were the mafia, while the mafia should have known that a traitor existed but not known who the traitor was. In this context, the above exchange should mean one of two things:

  1. MK wanted to throw people off the trail of the real mafia by chasing down three randos that definitely weren't scum. Torres obviously ended up not being scum, lending credibility to this option. Two people not on this list who are still left (other than me): The Warrior and Jazzy/Nadarr 2.0.
  2. MK figured it would be a good idea to explicitly call out people who he knew were mafia, and/or he actually didn't know who the mafia were (would be an irregular rule). This obviously doesn't seem likely, except for two curious points of interest: a) two of the people he called out, STP and Tony, are still left, and B) both of them got very defensive and have used this exchange as really their only reason why they spent a significant portion of the game trying to get MK lynched during the day.

I still don't really know what to make of this, but it seems like it could be a useful lead.

 

 

You could be on to something with some of this but it is also possible that MK simply did not know who else was mafia:

 

These are a few of the ways that Traitor has been implemented.

  • The Traitor may or may not know who is in the Mafia to begin with. If not, Traitor is basically intended to act like a "bad Townie" - whereas "good Townies" try to find scum, "bad Townies" hinder the Town from finding the scum without necessarily knowing who they are. However, it is considerably more common for the Traitor to know who the scum are.
    • On occasion the Traitor is only told who one of the scum is.

 

It could explain why he acted erratically with his flop-flopping on Tony and generally odd behavior.

 

@Tony - Can you clarify why you believe STP could be scum?

that sucks just like this font

What's that supposed to mean?

 

 

 

Reading back through the thread to try to get any idea of who might be mafia since nothing from recently feels very helpful, and this exchange from the 2nd day seems potentially interesting. Remember, at this time MK was a traitor and should have known who were the mafia, while the mafia should have known that a traitor existed but not known who the traitor was. In this context, the above exchange should mean one of two things: MK wanted to throw people off the trail of the real mafia by chasing down three randos that definitely weren't scum. Torres obviously ended up not being scum, lending credibility to this option. Two people not on this list who are still left (other than me): The Warrior and Jazzy/Nadarr 2.0. MK figured it would be a good idea to explicitly call out people who he knew were mafia, and/or he actually didn't know who the mafia were (would be an irregular rule). This obviously doesn't seem likely, except for two curious points of interest: a) two of the people he called out, STP and Tony, are still left, and B) both of them got very defensive and have used this exchange as really their only reason why they spent a significant portion of the game trying to get MK lynched during the day. I still don't really know what to make of this, but it seems like it could be a useful lead. You could be on to something with some of this but it is also possible that MK simply did not know who else was mafia:

 

Is it also possible that a traitor (MK) has a separate win condition than the scum and was trying to kill them off by trying to get wagons started on STP and Tony.

You could be on to something with some of this but it is also possible that MK simply did not know who else was mafia:

 

It could explain why he acted erratically with his flop-flopping on Tony and generally odd behavior.

I guess it's possible, I mean "normal" games don't have deflectors which is basically the only way Kevin could've come back as a role cop. The fact that he sort of backed off Tony doesn't really make sense though because he shouldn't be told who the mafia is halfway through and they can't talk or anything, right? Tony has been weird but at least pretty consistently weird lol. Idk what would've tipped MK off.

 

Is it also possible that a traitor (MK) has a separate win condition than the scum and was trying to kill them off by trying to get wagons started on STP and Tony.

This doesn't make any sense to me. The only constant in the traitor role according to mafiascum is that it is mafia aligned and wins if they do. Also his name is bolded in red in the OP indicating that he's scum.

Sorry, I've been quiet over the last 24 hours. There has been a family emergency on my end.

To discuss the accusations by Tony. I think he's mad that I've been calling out his erratic behavior during this game as a whole. As to MK, he lumped us together cause we ganged up on him a bit in the beginning before his lynch.

 

I think that Tony has been acting inconsistent at best, and hence.

Vote: Tony

Honestly I got a lotta problems with what just happened lol. Tony why did you turn on STP? STP why did you vote knowing the mafia had two guaranteed votes to end it?? Me, why didn't you listen to Kevin??? Kevin, why did you Ghoul the bodyguard??!?! I just... Lol I feel like mafia should not have won this game but I don't understand how it went so wrong.

 

Also roles?

Well GG. At least we finally ended the Kevin + Town win streak :P 

So who were the winners? need names to update?

Mafia won, TW, Nadarr, and MK

 

Brewers you wanna update the thread name?

While I am disappointed in the outcome, this is one of the games that keeps me excited about Mafia.

It had the puzzle-solving aspect which I love.

 

"I told you I was the Ghoul"

 

Did my redirection to Canik take effect or was he killed directly?

I suspected him based on him trying to save MK, but was wrong because as a Traitor, MK would not be known to the Mafia.

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