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[Torres951]

Right now I'd say lily is my top scum suspect, followed by Robert, and then Torres for me.

Aww, I'm in your top 3 suspects   

[Lord MK]

Alright.
I see the reasoning.

Robert has been quiet.
He's usually super active when town.
So there's that.

Then he just came online d2 to vote brewers, adding nothing else.

So basically a lot of scum tells.

Vote: Robert

[Wolfpacks]

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I have a usual activity lol

Well, you are never that active in pretty much all games we have played here.
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I've been reading the posts but don't have much to say.

Why?

Do you actually think before you speak lol

Why say something for the sake of it, ill alway talk when I have an opinion, I dont see the reason of spamming, its not clever nor does it help

[Lord MK]

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I have a usual activity lol

Well, you are never that active in pretty much all games we have played here.
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I've been reading the posts but don't have much to say.

Why?

Do you actually think before you speak lol

Why say something for the sake of it, ill alway talk when I have an opinion, I dont see the reason of spamming, its not clever nor does it help

Yes, i do.

Cause, if you don't get involved at the start, you are never getting involved.
If someone is active on Day 1, then that person will be active till they are dead.
But if you are all hush in d1, your mind relegates the game to the back of your mind.
You forget about it, and next thing you know, you are not submitting your night action.
Or you fail to turn up, when it's the last 24 hours of a lylo day, and town loses.

[Lyner]

And I honestly don't understand how it makes sense for me to be scum. If I was scum doing what I did would have been beyond retarded.

 

Or it might even be the reverse, you're scum and you were actually joking

 

But town was being town and an opportunity showed up

 

 

And the RC is pretty convenient as it's hard to prove

 

There is no restriction whatsoever? You can commute every night?

[brewersalliance]

I mean if someone investigated me or targeted me and it came up as no result that would basically confirm it as true.

And I don't want to say If there are or aren't as it could influence scums choice on who to target at night for the kills

[brewersalliance]

It's interesting that lyner wants to know if there are restrictions to my commuter role

First he asked town to basically mass name claim because he thinks names are related to town and now he's fishing to see if my role has any restrictions

Could be scum trying to figure out who our power roles are/what they are so scum know who to kill and he could be fishing to see if I have a restriction in case I am not lynched so scum know when they can target me or shouldn't target me so they don't waste an action

FoS Lyner.

Lyner replaces Torres on my top three suspects list

Right now I'd say lily is my top scum suspect, followed by Robert, and then Torres for me.

Aww, I'm in your top 3 suspects   

Sorry you're out now

[Tony Maurice]

Not sure if revealing our names w/o roles = mass role claim which is verboten.

 

Tony's "Not much to say" comment screams scum tell to me.

[Torres951]

Wait no. I want to be a suspect in this crime. Uhhhh.....I helped Thanos get the gauntlet. Does that put me back in top 3??

[Lyner]

I mean if someone investigated me or targeted me and it came up as no result that would basically confirm it as true.

And I don't want to say If there are or aren't as it could influence scums choice on who to target at night for the kills

 

It's interesting that lyner wants to know if there are restrictions to my commuter role

First he asked town to basically mass name claim because he thinks names are related to town and now he's fishing to see if my role has any restrictions

Could be scum trying to figure out who our power roles are/what they are so scum know who to kill and he could be fishing to see if I have a restriction in case I am not lynched so scum know when they can target me or shouldn't target me so they don't waste an action

FoS Lyner.

Lyner replaces Torres on my top three suspects list

 

 

Any Vanilla Town or Mafia goon can claim commuter and no way we can prove that without investigator like Cop/Role Cop. 

 

If you're a town commuter there is no way scum would pick you over other person, restrictions or not.

 

The fact that I need to prod before you claim that "you don't want to reveal it to scum" is fishy

 

I'm keeping my vote

[KevinH]

According to the OP scum can talk at night so they don't have day chat lol

Only Scum would pay attention to that.
 
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Discussion in the Scum Cave Brewer's mind:
 

"Too bad we can't lynch on Day 1 and get rid of a townie."
"KevinH said it was like Day 2 but he didn't see any hints"
"I'll call his bluff and say that Velocity was a hint."
 
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"Holy #$% it worked!"
"I better get off the wagon so I can avoid being lynched Day 2"

[Wolfpacks]

So the choice is either brewers or lilwierd, i don't know much about the latter's game play, but Brewers could be playing the double bluff, and knows exactly how he played it,

Ill vote soon just need more.

And im still not counting out Kevin, who was also on the wagon

[Tony Maurice]

Finster and wolfpacks very suspicious

[Finster Baby]

Finster and wolfpacks very suspicious

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

[Tony Maurice]

Here is how we photosynthesise: 

A day 1 joke vote shouldn’t warrant a lynch

[brewersalliance]

I mean if someone investigated me or targeted me and it came up as no result that would basically confirm it as true.

And I don't want to say If there are or aren't as it could influence scums choice on who to target at night for the kills
 
It's interesting that lyner wants to know if there are restrictions to my commuter role

First he asked town to basically mass name claim because he thinks names are related to town and now he's fishing to see if my role has any restrictions

Could be scum trying to figure out who our power roles are/what they are so scum know who to kill and he could be fishing to see if I have a restriction in case I am not lynched so scum know when they can target me or shouldn't target me so they don't waste an action

FoS Lyner.

Lyner replaces Torres on my top three suspects list
 

 
Any Vanilla Town or Mafia goon can claim commuter and no way we can prove that without investigator like Cop/Role Cop. 
 
If you're a town commuter there is no way scum would pick you over other person, restrictions or not.
 
The fact that I need to prod before you claim that "you don't want to reveal it to scum" is fishy
 
I'm keeping my vote

Well yeah, of course you're keeping your vote. You're probably scum lol

Please tell me, how does telling if my commuter role has restrictions or not benifit the town?

All it does is benifit the scum team to know if my role is restricted.

[brewersalliance]

So the choice is either brewers or lilwierd, i don't know much about the latter's game play, but Brewers could be playing the double bluff, and knows exactly how he played it,

Ill vote soon just need more.

And im still not counting out Kevin, who was also on the wagon

I mean a double bluff would be very risky. And the risk to kill just one member of the town on day 1 at the risk at losing probably 1/3 of the entire scum team would not be worth it.

Why on earth would I risk losing a third of the scum team to kill velocity?

What baffles me about all of this is how deadset Kevin is that I'm scum. Honestly it's kind of insulting that you would even think I'd be dumb enough to do this. I don't think he's scum, but come on. I'm not Rafay lol I wouldn't be this stupid.

And I'm pretty sure between robert/lyner we have a scum

Also I would be shocked if the town cop didn't chose to investigate me last night. I am not asking the cop to claim because number 1, I'm town and don't want him to out himself for nothing and number 2 he would have got a result of no result since I commuted. But if I was lying about everything and was scum trying to kill Velocity, don't u think that probably would have been pointed out by now? I mean I think the odds are the cop checked me last night.

So here are the possiblities if the cop checked me

1) I am scum and lying. Cop would get a guilty and I'd be fucked
2) I am scum and a godfather and lying. Cop would get a not guilty and can out me for lying about commiting. Agajn, Id be fucked
3) I am town and a commuter. Cop would get no result.

Those are the three possibilities. If the first two happened we would probably know about it. But since im town and telling the truth, thats not gonna happen.

Like I said, don't come out and claim you got a no result on me..not worth it

Seriously tho. There are actual scum signs from some players and then we have me who made a joke that FIVE people followed with votes in rapid fire succession that's being latched onto.

[brewersalliance]

Also, something else lyner said to me kind of stands out.

I mean if someone investigated me or targeted me and it came up as no result that would basically confirm it as true.

And I don't want to say If there are or aren't as it could influence scums choice on who to target at night for the kills
 
It's interesting that lyner wants to know if there are restrictions to my commuter role

First he asked town to basically mass name claim because he thinks names are related to town and now he's fishing to see if my role has any restrictions

Could be scum trying to figure out who our power roles are/what they are so scum know who to kill and he could be fishing to see if I have a restriction in case I am not lynched so scum know when they can target me or shouldn't target me so they don't waste an action

FoS Lyner.

Lyner replaces Torres on my top three suspects list
 

 
Any Vanilla Town or Mafia goon can claim commuter and no way we can prove that without investigator like Cop/Role Cop. 
 

This is Agents of Shield mafia. Probably gonna be a lot of PRs and come on... AGENTS... what do agents do? Investigate. Is lyner really suggesting I'm basing my role claim on a hope that there is not a cop in play? When was the last time we haven't had some form of a cop in a game?

The more I think about it, the more I think lyner is probably one of our scum.
And saying the only way it can be proven is by a cop is just another false narrative by lyner.

It can be proven by legit any targeting role. If a role targets me and I commute it will be unsuccessful. So legit if any town role targeted me and their action was successful that means I was lying about my role and lying about commuting lol

So according to lyner the only way to know I'm lying would be a cop? That's just false. If ANYONE targeted me last night for any reason they would get no result. If I was lying about my role, any single role that targeted me would know I was lying.
For me to be scum the following has to be true:

I was willing to risk what is most likely 1/3 of the entire scum team in order to Lynch Velocity.

I chose a role to claim that can literally be busted as lying by any town role that targets me

No cop investigated me

[Lyner]

Pretty sure if Tracker/Watcher targets a commuter it will return "No Result", the same thing they will get if they target a Vanilla

 

Which is why I said Commuter is a convenient claim for a mafia goon

 

And the reason I asked if you have a restriction is because Commuter that could commute every night is unusual

 

Most Commuters cannot Commute each Night. Instead, they generally have Odd-Night or Even-Night modifiers attached. Alternatively, they may be X-Shot and need to choose if they want to Commute each Night.

 

A commuter with restriction is expected. Not sure why you're so defensive about it

[brewersalliance]

Because why would I tell u when the restriction is. If I say even night, then scum know I can be killed/targeted on odd nights etc. I'd rather them not know so they either a) don't kill me or try to guess what it is and waste their kill for the night. Why on earth would I let scum know "hey don't use your kills on me on xyz days since they will be wasted"

And wrong. If a watcher targeted a vannila TW has in all his past games given the result "visited by no one/visted no one" and he's made it a point to differentiate the use of "no result"

So they would get a result on a vanilla. They would not get a result on me since their action would fail
Again, lyner is spewing a false narative and trying to make it sound like telling the game any restrictions would be beneficial to the town when in reality it only benifits the scum to know when I can or cannot be targeted.

Lyner is fishing hard to know when I can't be targeted. As a townie this makes no sense because who really cares? If he wants a cop to investigate me, it will validate my claim regardless of the restrictions to my role. Either they will get a "no result" or they will get a not guilty.

The only reason for him to want any restrictions made public is so the scum can benifit on knowing when it's safe to target me for a kill