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[Wolfpacks]

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.
And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Actually listening to TM and TW im not totally sure you are scum,

UNVOTE

So for me listening to whats been said here it seems like a toss up between Torres or LWW

[The Warrior]

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.
And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

 

I understand that you wrote what you received. I'm not questioning that. What I'm saying is that, if you saw two people "attack" MK, one of them was definitely Torres who shot him. The other was definitely me who visited him. What I'm saying is that you are assuming the phrasing Brewers gave you "you saw two attacks" does not actually mean attacks. I visited him with a different type of role. Brewers just chose to describe it to you as an "attack" instead of a "visit" or something else.

 

 

 

Are we going to stop here? ABT and TW are off the table for lynches at leadt for now.

 

Why not go for LWW? And if not him Ferastical or velocity?

Velocity is confirmed Town, why would we do that?

 

My mistake.

 

we could just have LWW, ABT, TW and Torres as mafia confusing the whole town

 

 

You are doing the town a disservice by posting things like this. Unless Torres is actually a serial killer we already know that he's a town Vigilante and he shot MK last night. ABT and I had that back and forth over the last couple days but I am most certainly not scum and I actually don't believe ABT is either. I think he is town that was just operating with partial information and on an assumption.

 

I have no idea what alignment LWW is so I can't really comment on that.

[lilweirdward]

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone? He explicitly stated that he knew the exact three people who visited MK last night were, even though we've now learned that was completely false, and there's no way he could have had any idea at all who had visited MK.

I'd say we could even expect an SK here, don't you agree, TW?

So could you tell us, TW, what were you up to, last night?

I'm waiting for TW to explain what did he last night.

I'm not a Watcher/Tracker. Information I'm collecting is more limited. Luckily for us, there was a watcher present at the scene and we know the names of everyone that visited MK last night. Full list consists of:

- me,
- TW
- LWW

Not only did I not visit MK, but Torres actually did and admitted to the kill. Of course AbT didn't know Torres was there, because he had no idea who all visited MK other than supposedly knowing that two people were there.

Literal best case scenario is that he took Tony too seriously and lied about his information to try to pressure TW to come forward, in which case, Lynch All Liars. Worst case scenario he's lying about his entire premise. Maybe the TW thing was still a lucky guess, or maybe he knows via some other means how TW would have visited MK, and tried to use that information to get TW lynched.

Seriously, what am I missing here?

[Finster Baby]

 

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.
And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Actually listening to TM and TW im not totally sure you are scum,

UNVOTE

So for me listening to whats been said here it seems like a toss up between Torres or LWW

 

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought Torres RC'ed as a Town Vig, but I could be sorely mistaken.

[Ali bin Turban]

 

TW, nope. Theres no interpretation here. I literaly wrote what i received. You being on MK wagon and trying to downplay this information sounds suspicious.

Wolpacks, there' ve been multiple kills /attempts every night, so unless those people fall of the stairs by accident it means there are multiple factions.
And Im not surprised by your vote at all. Judging by all your previous comments you were itching to do it from the beginning of D2

Actually listening to TM and TW im not totally sure you are scum,

UNVOTE

So for me listening to whats been said here it seems like a toss up between Torres or LWW

 

I'd say Torres has been basically confirmed by Brewers, to be a Vig when they both discussed the consequences of him making a shot (not revealed when killing mafia, revealed when killing town).  

 

If you still don't want to believe me then I don't have much left I think I can say to prove myself to you, but you're even admitting that what I'm saying makes sense, and hopefully the rest of my play is showing that I'm trying to help find the rest of the scum just like you.

 

 

So you're trying to help find the rest of them scum just like me. Then are you voting on me, if as you say, I'm trying to find scum? 

 

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone

 

 

5 hours later you stopped believing, that I'm trying to find scum? 

[brewersalliance]

I'd say Torres has been basically confirmed by Brewers, to be a Vig when they both discussed the consequences of him making a shot (not revealed when killing mafia, revealed when killing town).  

 

 

I never said that.  All I said was that is not how our conversation went and someone doesnt know how to read their role PM.  Torres is not confirmed as any role or with any modifications of any typle

[Lyner]

 

 

Almost feels like LWW is trying too hard to be town

I concur

I know I'm a bit newer but this is kind of generally how I try to play every game, especially early on. I think out loud and try to come up with ideas that'll hopefully push us towards some good leads. I am town though, I'm Arya Stark.

 

 

Why did you name claim here @lww?

[Ali bin Turban]

 

I'd say Torres has been basically confirmed by Brewers, to be a Vig when they both discussed the consequences of him making a shot (not revealed when killing mafia, revealed when killing town).  

 

 

I never said that.  All I said was that is not how our conversation went and someone doesnt know how to read their role PM.  Torres is not confirmed as any role or with any modifications of any typle

 

Alright. So lets say, I'm 90% sure. 

[lilweirdward]

If you still don't want to believe me then I don't have much left I think I can say to prove myself to you, but you're even admitting that what I'm saying makes sense, and hopefully the rest of my play is showing that I'm trying to help find the rest of the scum just like you.

So you're trying to help find the rest of them scum just like me. Then are you voting on me, if as you say, I'm trying to find scum?

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone

5 hours later you stopped believing, that I'm trying to find scum?

I voted for you early on when you claimed with complete certainty that I was scum without putting a vote on me, which is just unquestionably scummy as the job of any town is to lynch scum, not rely on vigs or whatever odd excuse you gave. Trust me, I've been suspicious of you since then and haven't taken my vote off intentionally, but that doesn't mean I can't continue playing the game and seeing if I can mislead you or other scummy players into thinking I'm not still suspecting you as our most likely scum.

Also I'm on my lunch break which is why I'm posting this now lol.

[lilweirdward]

I know I'm a bit newer but this is kind of generally how I try to play every game, especially early on. I think out loud and try to come up with ideas that'll hopefully push us towards some good leads. I am town though, I'm Arya Stark.

Why did you name claim here @lww?

It was just a rush of the moment thing that I thought would help explain my behavior or something without role claiming. Names are hard to fake in a game this big and Arya would be a horrible safe claim lol, so I was hoping it would help me here sort of like it did when I was Batman in another world. In hindsight though I can see how that (and my explanation now) is a bit suspect, but that's just the honest truth. If there happens to be a town flavor cop left I'm more than happy to be investigated to show that it's my real name, and I'll learn my lesson about not relying on flavor to prove my town-iness lol.

[Torres951]

What we know for sure is that TW and I visited MK last night. I admitted to killing him, which might not have been the smartest move on my part if he were town. He turned out to be mafia so that means we can gloss over the fact that I shot into the dark, hoping for the best!

 

We also know that ABT saw that two people visited MK in some way, shape, or form. The form presented to him was that two people attacked MK. It would make sense for Brewers to tell ABT that he saw an attack and something else rather than two attacks and leave it as that.

 

I'm not asking you to RC, but explaining what you meant by...

I visited him with a different type of role

Would be very helpful. 

[Ali bin Turban]

 

 

If you still don't want to believe me then I don't have much left I think I can say to prove myself to you, but you're even admitting that what I'm saying makes sense, and hopefully the rest of my play is showing that I'm trying to help find the rest of the scum just like you.

So you're trying to help find the rest of them scum just like me. Then are you voting on me, if as you say, I'm trying to find scum?

Hold on, can someone please explain to me why AbT is suddenly not scummy to anyone

5 hours later you stopped believing, that I'm trying to find scum?

I voted for you early on when you claimed with complete certainty that I was scum without putting a vote on me, which is just unquestionably scummy as the job of any town is to lynch scum, not rely on vigs or whatever odd excuse you gave. Trust me, I've been suspicious of you since then and haven't taken my vote off intentionally, but that doesn't mean I can't continue playing the game and seeing if I can mislead you or other scummy players into thinking I'm not still suspecting you as our most likely scum.

Also I'm on my lunch break which is why I'm posting this now lol.

 

That's so sneaky sneaky of you. But if you had a sneaky plan to mislead me, shouldn't you keep it to yourself? Now you look like a cartoony evil mastermind who cant wait to spill the beans, in order to impress his opponent with his briliant mind. 

 

Anyway now, that I've learned about your evil plan, I'm confident lynching you is a right thing to do.  

[Tony Maurice]

THEN VOTE

 

ALSO @brewers WHY ARE 2 votes counting as 1?

Nvm on that Ali, I realised you are the other vote. BUT EVERYONE ELSE LETS GO

[Torres951]

Vote: TW

 

Willing to change once new information surfaces

[brewersalliance]

KevinH has replaced Nadarr 

[KevinH]

I told you I was town!

[The Warrior]

Vote: TW
 
Willing to change once new information surfaces

Are you kidding? I think we’ve wasted enough time already voting for this townie.

[Torres951]

Welcome back Kevin!

[SealTeamPi]

Welcome back Kevin, you have a lot reading to catch up on.

[Tony Maurice]

So what’s the plan?

 

discuss, or vote for someone?

 

torres needs to un vote TW.

 

welcome back kevin