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A Feast for Crows Mafia Serial Killer Wins[BA-09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

 

Players

  • ABT, Grand Maester Pycelle, a doctor, died N3
  • Canik died N2
  • D3brignger, king Tommen, a Town Governor, was Lynched D1
  • Dontavian
  • Ferastical, Breanne of Tarth, a Tracker, died N4
  • Finster Baby
  • KevinH, Arienne Martell, a Double Voter was Lynched D2
  • Lyner, Areo Hotah a jailor, died N6
  • MK, Victarion Greyjoy, a mafia Flavor Cop, died N2
  • KevinH2.O, The Waif, has died N5
  • Rafay, The High Sparrow, a mafia Godfather, died D7 in a trial by combat
  • Robert, Quyburn, a Watcher, Was Killed N1
  • STP, The Blackfish, a mafia JOAT, died N4
  • Tony2 was lynched D4
  • TW
  • Tony, Euron Grayjoy, a Day Vig, was killed N1
  • Torres951, Jamie Lannister, a Vigilante, was lynched D6
  • Velocity, Cersei Lannister, An innocent child and Tree Stump died n3
  • Wolfpacks, Arys Oakhert, a bodyguard, died N4
  • lilweirrdwad, Arya Stark, a mafia Janitor was lynched D3

Events

Rules

  • This game has a night start
  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, they will be put to a trial by combat against each other.
  • You may NOT vote no lynch. This is Game of Thrones. Valar Morghulis
  • If no player reaches a half majority by the deadline, the player with the highest vote count will be subject to a trial by combat. The god's will determine his/her guilt or innocence.
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.
  • Roles are not guaranteed to be sane
  • This game is not normal, there may be roles used you never seen before
  • Role modifications are in play

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

  • ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day. Any player who does not meet the reqired post counts will be subject to a mod kill. A mod kill and a lynch may both happen at my discretion. If multiple players do not meet the requirement, the one with the lowest post count will be killed
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There are several confusing events that should be discussed since this is probably the deciding day.

 

1. Kevin you're announced as Innocent Child on 4th day, why? This is after Velocity the previous innocent child got killed the night before.

2. TW you targeted MK and have gone silent since about your role, care to explain now?

3. There are insane vote manipulations going on since the first days, would be nice if we have all vote results so we can analyse it. If someone is nice enough to collect them I'd be grateful  :P otherwise maybe later I will

4. Torres targeted Tony but missed, and yesterday he failed to kill FB (and somehow being told that FB is town!).

5. FB getting saved from lynch yesterday, there is no reason to save an alleged VT unless he's actually part of scum.

6. Tony still shows up yellow even after LWW is gone.

7. There are 3 night kills yesterday. Assuming at least 3 different killers around, this is a direct contradiction with Dontavian's results (+ the only mafia he hit returns "no result") so it should be assumed that Dontavian's results are most likely unreliable.

 

Final Vote Count from Day 4

  • Finster Baby (5): Tony, lyner, Ferastical, KevinH2,0
  • Tony (3) Torres, Wolfpacks, Finster Baby

Not Voting: Dontavian, Rafay, STP, TW

 

Tony Maurice was lynched despite having fewer votes.

 

This seemed scummy to me:

I am not comfortable with voting for either at this point and will abstain as well.

 

Did some people know what was going to happen?

Final Vote Count from Day 4

  • Finster Baby (5): Tony, lyner, Ferastical, KevinH2,0
  • Tony (3) Torres, Wolfpacks, Finster Baby

Not Voting: Dontavian, Rafay, STP, TW

 

Tony Maurice was lynched despite having fewer votes.

 

This seemed scummy to me:

I am not comfortable with voting for either at this point and will abstain as well.

 

Did some people know what was going to happen?

 

I was online all the way up until deadline yesterday and posted right at the very end of the day that I wasn't comfortable voting considering the arguments against both Tony and Finster.

 

Tony voted for Finster because he got roleblocked on the night he tried to visit him and based on an interpretation of flavor text that he thought would mean Finster was a strongman. That is too flimsy for me to base a vote on. You, yourself, even claimed that you believed Finster was Vanilla (but could be a Goon) and yet you did not change your vote or give any alternate reason for your vote after you followed that original strongman accusation. What was your actual reason for voting for him?

 

On the other hand, Finster apparently voted for Tony because Tony pushed for him to be lynched with no other information than he was role blocked. Also, too flimsy for me to base a vote on.

 

At the very end of the day my vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. After Kevin voted Finster had enough votes to be lynched at deadline and Tony was only at 3. And even if I thought Tony was more scummy voting for him at the end of the day wouldn't have changed the outcome either. It only would have given him 4 votes and Finster still would have been lynched.

 

Now, an interesting thing to note was that Finster had 5 votes at the end of the day but with only 4 people voting for him:

Finster Baby (5): Tony, lyner, Ferastical, KevinH2,0

 

So we were right that there was still vote manipulation going on here somewhere. Can anyone explain that?

 

 

As for my role:

 

I am Sansa Stark. I began the game as a town FBI Agent. My character name was interesting to me when we started to see Lannister aligned characters end up as town because Sansa is obviously no Lannister fan.. However, as I started researching Sansa’s involvement in “Feast for Crows” I saw that she was off in the Vale and not really working against the Lannister’s in the south at that time. This is why I was very specific when I said that I believed scum would be characters who were directly opposed to the Lannister’s in Feast for Crows (I.e. the Martells and the Faith Militant) when I was discussing character alignment. Of course my character theory ended up proving false anyway when kevin1.0 died as a Martell.

 

I didn't outright role claim because it was still early in the game and I didn't have any information for the town yet but I tried to drop hints about it on the day that ABT was accusing me of killing MK:

 

In response to ABT accusing me of being a SK:

 

 

I have a role that allowed me to visit MK last night. I did not kill him however. I know what you think you know, but you’re wrong. I’m looking for that person. Think about what that means and you’ll know what my role is.

 

And this is further arguing against ABT's accusation of me as a SK. You'll notice it isn't my normal post style. Here's why:

Firstly, how do you know there is a watcher if it isn’t you?

Back up to what was “already provided a few days ago”.

I have no idea what you mean or what it has to do with last night.

Anti-lannister names in “feast for crows” specifically were thought to be scum.

Glossed over that part to try to make a point though, huh?

Every faction/family isn’t directly opposed to them in feast for crows.

Not sure what you wanted “town to find out for ourselves” either.

Tell us what you’re hinting at knowing.

-On night 0, I investigated Canik and was told “Not a serial killer”.

-On night 1, I investigated KevinH1.0 and was told “Not a serial killer.”

-On night 2, I also investigated MK and received “No Result”. This is obviously the night ABT accused me of killing MK which we now know Torres actually did.

-On night 3, I investigated Finster and was told “Not a serial killer”.

 

And then something interesting happened. Right before the start of day 4 I received a separate message telling me that my role had changed. I was no longer a town FBI Agent but became a town Jack-of-all-Trades. I’m not sure what caused it but we’ve seen so many other crazy things happen that I’m just chalking it up to “Brewers”.

 

On night 4, I investigated Finster again, this time with a JOAT Role Cop ability, because he managed to survive the lynch and I thought I could find out his role and verify or dispute his role claim but I must have been role blocked or something because I received “No Result”. I’m assuming that I was actually role blocked not only because of the no result but also because it sounds like Torres and Dontavian both got results so he wasn’t jailed or anything.

 

I still have a couple JOAT abilities left to choose from but I’m not going to disclose them ahead of time and make the remaining scum’s decisions any easier tonight.

 

That brings us to what’s left:

 

- Dontavian: Claimed Cop, Has several “Not mafia” results.

- Finster: Claimed VT, has investigated as “Not mafia” to a cop, “Not a Serial Killer” to an FBI Agent, and was told to be Town to Torres apparently.

- Kevin2.0: No claimed role at this time. Confirmed town by the mod.

- Lyner: No claimed role at this time. Claims to have circumstantial evidence that I'm town though.

- Rafay: No claimed role at this time. Investigated as “Not Mafia” to a Cop.

- Torres: Claimed Vig, Alignment not verified by additional source, Killed MK, Killed Velocity (claims it was redirected or misfired).

- TW (me): Claimed JOAT, Confirmed as not being mafia by Cop, Lyner says he has circumstantial evidence that I'm likely town.

 

Even though there are several players remaining whose roles are unknown, there are only two players left with no alignment verification of any kind: Lyner and Torres.

 

We had three deaths last night. Two of which it seems might have killed one another - STP (mafia) and WP (Town) if the flavor text reflects accurate information. Torres tried to shoot Finster and was unsuccessful so that leaves one currently unexplained death.

 

 

OK I can believe that claim TW. Seems like either our SK is dead and/or brewers is balancing town PRs

 

I'm Areo Horath (google told me it's a typo, never heard of him either), a town jailer.

 

I jailed TW last night. That means there were still 3 killers even with him jailed (unless scum uses factional kill + ability kill on single night).

 

Kevin has no action. Dontavian targetted a cop. I had a date with TW.

 

Assuming none of us lied, that leaves Rafay/Torres/FB as our 3 killers last night.


*Dontavian used cop

N0 I jailed Kevin

N1 I missed the deadline, no action.

N2 I jailed Velocity

N3 I jailed AbT << AbT still died, so I'm roleblocked or there is a strongarm

N4 I jailed TW

We're potentially in a LYLO situation depending on the number of remaining scum factions. If you have something to share that can help fill in some of the puzzle we should probably consider it.

N0 I jailed Kevin

N1 I missed the deadline, no action.

N2 I jailed Velocity

N3 I jailed AbT << AbT still died, so I'm roleblocked or there is a strongarm

N4 I jailed TW

 

Kevin1.0 was a Double Voter so N0 is unconfirmable.

Well N4 is confirmable by TW

 

As I said, I received No Result on night 4 so it is plausible. Of course that doesn't necessarily guarantee your alignment as a town Jailkeeper though either.

 

Well N4 is confirmable by TW

 

As I said, I received No Result on night 4 so it is plausible. Of course that doesn't necessarily guarantee your alignment as a town Jailkeeper though either.

 

Agreed, if anything here's my best defense:

- I voted for LWW

- I voted for FB, who is most likely a scum with how yesterday played out

- I jailed you last night, so I don't have anything to do with the 3 night kills

Kevin you're announced as Innocent Child on 4th day, why? This is after Velocity the previous innocent child got killed the night before.

 

You are very observant. I came back in as a Universal Backup and then became the Innocent Child.

 

 

Well N4 is confirmable by TW

 

As I said, I received No Result on night 4 so it is plausible. Of course that doesn't necessarily guarantee your alignment as a town Jailkeeper though either.

 

Agreed, if anything here's my best defense:

- I voted for LWW

- I voted for FB, who is most likely a scum with how yesterday played out

- I jailed you last night, so I don't have anything to do with the 3 night kills

 

I assumed I was dead with the lynch yesterday too. I realize it looks odd but I can’t explain what happened. There isn’t anything I can do to prove myself more than has been done at this point. I have no night action and I’ve apparently been investigated as town and VT by multiple investigations, as I claimed previously.

 

 

Well N4 is confirmable by TW

 

As I said, I received No Result on night 4 so it is plausible. Of course that doesn't necessarily guarantee your alignment as a town Jailkeeper though either.

 

Agreed, if anything here's my best defense:

- I voted for LWW

- I voted for FB, who is most likely a scum with how yesterday played out

- I jailed you last night, so I don't have anything to do with the 3 night kills

 

@Brewers - Would you allow scum to perform a kill and another night action on the same night?

 

 

Kevin you're announced as Innocent Child on 4th day, why? This is after Velocity the previous innocent child got killed the night before.

 

You are very observant. I came back in as a Universal Backup and then became the Innocent Child.

 

 

So you were a Universal Backup and became an Innocent Child upon Velocity's death?

 

FB, Rafay, and Torres are remarkably quiet on what is very likely Town’s last day to figure this out.

 

Indeed. Do any of you have anything else to add here? We need to figure something out.

 

Looks like Finster posted while I was typing.

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Vote Count 5.1

  • Dontavian
  • Finster Baby 
  • Lyner (1) Dontavian
  • KevinH2,O
  • Rafay
  • TW
  • Torres951 

Not Voting:  Finster Baby, Lyner, KevinH20,Rafay, TW, Torres

 

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline

Deadline is 8/29 at 9am CN time

 

  • ABT, Grand Maester Pycelle, a doctor, died N3
  • Canik died N2
  • D3brignger, king Tommen, a Town Governor, was Lynched D1
  • Dontavian
  • Ferastical, Breanne of Tarth, a Tracker, died N4
  • Finster Baby
  • KevinH, Arienne Martell, a Double Voter was Lynched D2
  • Lyner
  • MK, Victarion Greyjoy, a mafia Flavor Cop, died N2
  • KevinH2.O
  • Rafay
  • Robert, Quyburn, a Watcher, Was Killed N1
  • STP, The Blackfish, a mafia JOAT, died N4
  • Tony2 was lynched D4
  • TW
  • Tony, Euron Grayjoy, a Day Vig, was killed N1
  • Torres951
  • Velocity, Cersei Lannister, An innocent child and Tree Stump died n3
  • Wolfpacks, Arys Oakhert, a bodyguard, died N4
  • lilweirrdwad, Arya Stark, a mafia Janitor was lynched D3

So, with this being the current roster, based on what I’ve collected during the nights, plus we know Kevin is Town from brewers, that leaves Torres a known vig (affiliation TBD) and lyner.  

 

Vote: Lyner

 

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To that end, I’m going to partial RC. I’m a Town Cop.

N0, I investigated Nadar, now Kevin’s Character, and got not mafia. This was confirmed by brewers announcement

N1, I investigated Rafay and got not mafia

N2, I investigated MK and got “no result”. He was killed that night

N3, I investigated The Warrior and got not mafia

N4, I investigated Finster and got not mafia

 

If my results are correct, that leaves Torres and Lyner as my unknowns

so with the info I have, Torres and Lyner are the choices. We don’t know for certain how many total scum are left.  My vote was before others chimed in and brought up that there are likely double, super-secret negating modifiers that might be in play, and it IS a brewers game, so all of my investigative results might be wrong...or they might only appear to be wrong and only on even days...IDK. BL= until there’s something more substantive to go on, I’ll leave the vote on Lyner for now

To convince Dontavian:

 

There are 3 kills last night. Which means even including me and torres there is one more scum hiding in your results.

 

And we know that there are more than one scum faction, evidenced by TW's SK detection and your "not mafia" result instead of "town" result

 

There is also Rafay hiding/not contributing anything even this late in the game.

VT FB somehow survived yesterday

Torres keeps missing his target

 

Rafay/FB/torres are my bet

And we know that there are more than one scum faction, evidenced by TW's SK detection and your "not mafia" result instead of "town" result

According to brewers, all I would get when investigating is a mafia/ not mafia result... and I guess there was a third option when I got a “no result” on MK

 

Rafay/FB/torres are my bet
 

I agree, based solely on my results, and the fact that he alone asserted he’s Town, that Torres is potentially scum. So, who are you voting for and let’s get this over with?

Rafay is the only person left who has yet to role claim anything. Lyner and Torres are the only two players who we have yet to receive any sort of alignment verification on. And Torres and Rafay are completely silent with ~40 hours until a potentially game deciding deadline. These are the three that I am concerned about right now.

 

Lyner is at least contributing at this point and I can verify that he is likely telling the truth about jailing me (or role blocking me at least) last night based off of the fact that I received no result to my investigation. Again, that doesn't necessarily verify he is town but of the three he has at least offered something today.

 

In addition to Lyner's list above, we have also not yet figured out what is going on with the post counts. Something is still affecting those as well.

 

@Rafay @Torres - What do you think?

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